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Post by okeydokey on Jun 24, 2009 11:01:03 GMT -5
40% insider selection may or may not be shocking.
If 1% of the people on the cert were insiders and 40% were selected, that would be shocking.
If 95% of the people on the cert were insiders and 40% were selected, that would be shocking.
The numbers are relative. Until you can show how many insiders were on the cert and where they were on the register (their score) and whether they were entitled to veterans' preference, showing that 40% of the selectees were insiders has very little meaning.
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Post by zero on Jun 26, 2009 8:46:37 GMT -5
I’m going to interrupt this hijacking with a return to the original subject of the thread. Let’s think back to the last time this happened. If I remember right, people were notified they were on the cert in April? And then the interview invitations started going out about 1 month (?) later. So if there are to be new hires in August, that would mean we would hear something soon. There are only (gasp) three full months left in the FY.
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Post by benchsitter on Jun 26, 2009 11:02:48 GMT -5
FWIW, I heard from a pretty reliable source that there will be 40 positions filled this fall from the current list i.e., no "supplement" or "additionsl" cert.
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Post by jagghagg on Jun 26, 2009 12:08:51 GMT -5
Of course, SSA's ability to use the "old" cert is directly related to and constrained by the geographic locations which were listed on ODAR's request to OPM for a Certificate of Elgibles which produced that cert.
Ah'm jes sayin'.......
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Post by lawmaker on Jun 26, 2009 19:14:59 GMT -5
Of course, SSA's ability to use the "old" cert is directly related to and constrained by the geographic locations which were listed on ODAR's request to OPM for a Certificate of Elgibles which produced that cert. Ah'm jes sayin'....... And I am just wondering: there were still a number of locations with multiple openings not filled. There were more than 300 folks interviewed and a substantial number of prior certified interviewed joining them on this cert. Minus the nearly 150 people they hired, 40 people is less than 1/4 of the remaining people on the current cert. What's the issue you are trying to bring out?
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Post by jagghagg on Jun 26, 2009 20:33:29 GMT -5
No disagreement, Lawmaker. No particular "issue." If there are vacancies in locations that are found on the now-"old" cert, everything is fine and dandy. New locations would require a new cert.
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Post by demelza on Jun 27, 2009 13:18:19 GMT -5
If there will be openings in cities on our GAL, will we get a new notice? Or will we only be notified if they will be recruiting in cities on our GAL where they were not recruiting as of April?
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Post by jagghagg on Jun 28, 2009 14:28:09 GMT -5
If there are openings on your GAL and you are referred by OPM, then you would likely get a new notification from SSA. If there are openings, as Lawmaker suggests, over which the last cert covers and SSA is not going to ask for a new cert, my bet is that you will not get notice of anything; SSA will simply act.
(But then, hey - I thought Alaska was the Coast Guard and that slot has simply dropped off the face of the earth.)
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Post by Volunteer on Jul 16, 2009 8:59:52 GMT -5
I am trying to get an idea on how long it will be before SSA will schedule new interviews for the 50 or so ALJs that they apparently intend to hire in this fall.
I have spoken with others who went through the most recent interview process, and they indicated they received telephone calls from SSA setting up interviews about a month in advance of the interview.
According to Odarite's post, interviews are scheduled to take place between August 10th and 14th. If SSA does contact people about one month in advance to schedule interviews, the August 10th to 14th time frame seems unlikely. SSA is still working through the transfer list.
Comments anyone?
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Post by privateatty on Jul 16, 2009 14:17:41 GMT -5
I am trying to get an idea on how long it will be before SSA will schedule new interviews for the 50 or so ALJs that they apparently intend to hire in this fall. I have spoken with others who went through the most recent interview process, and they indicated they received telephone calls from SSA setting up interviews about a month in advance of the interview. According to Odarite's post, interviews are scheduled to take place between August 10th and 14th. If SSA does contact people about one month in advance to schedule interviews, the August 10th to 14th time frame seems unlikely. SSA is still working through the transfer list. Comments anyone? I assume you mean interviews for people who did not previously interview on the earlier certificate? Of course, there would be no need to schedule interviews if they keep the same certificate, as all of the canddiates on that certificate were interviewed already for the earlier hire. If SSA has requested, or intends to request another certificate, one that contains geographic locations that are different from the first certificate, or are for new hires at the same locations, then anyone whose name shows up on the new certificate that has not interviewed will be called. That will likely be a small number of people, and its also possible that it is no one on this Board. So, the answer is the interviews may have already been scheduled, and no one here knows. Or, they have not yet requested another certificate. Or, they have decided to hire from the existing certificate and there will be no interviews. And if its Tuesday, this must be Belgium. My money is on the last scenario. Only way I can see of OCALJ hiring his 50.
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Post by Volunteer on Jul 16, 2009 14:32:36 GMT -5
I am trying to get an idea on how long it will be before SSA will schedule new interviews for the 50 or so ALJs that they apparently intend to hire in this fall. I have spoken with others who went through the most recent interview process, and they indicated they received telephone calls from SSA setting up interviews about a month in advance of the interview. According to Odarite's post, interviews are scheduled to take place between August 10th and 14th. If SSA does contact people about one month in advance to schedule interviews, the August 10th to 14th time frame seems unlikely. SSA is still working through the transfer list. Comments anyone? I assume you mean interviews for people who did not previously interview on the earlier certificate? Of course, there would be no need to schedule interviews if they keep the same certificate, as all of the canddiates on that certificate were interviewed already for the earlier hire. If SSA has requested, or intends to request another certificate, one that contains geographic locations that are different from the first certificate, or are for new hires at the same locations, then anyone whose name shows up on the new certificate that has not interviewed will be called. That will likely be a small number of people, and its also possible that it is no one on this Board. So, the answer is the interviews may have already been scheduled, and no one here knows. Or, they have not yet requested another certificate. Or, they have decided to hire from the existing certificate and there will be no interviews. And if its Tuesday, this must be Belgium.
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Post by Volunteer on Jul 16, 2009 14:45:01 GMT -5
My quotations skills are substandard. I intended to quote patriotsfan and file this respone all in one entry.
PF, thanks for your comments. Your assumptions are correct. I realize that anyone who has already been interviewed won't be interviewed again. I also realize that there won't necessarily be a need for a supplemental cert unless there is some senario such as SSA hirming in new cities or everyone already interviewed has three strikes, etc.
I was merely responding to odarite's assertion in this thread that interviews would be conducted from August 10th through 14th. If true, then it necessarily follows that SSA will conduct interviews regardless of the reasons for doing so..
Would someone in ODAR feel comfortable answering my questions which are: does anyone have an idea when the transfer process (see transfer list thread) will be complete? Then, please assume SSA will conduct at least some interveiws for the fall hirming, and tell me when you think SSA would they start to notify individuals.
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Post by Volunteer on Jul 16, 2009 14:47:39 GMT -5
As evidenced by my "quotations" remark, my spell check skills are also substandard!
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Post by noah on Jul 22, 2009 21:42:05 GMT -5
Has anyone been contacted about interviews in mid-August?
Does anyone know when SSA will complete the transfer of existing ALJs, and will resume the hiring of new ALJs?
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Post by southeastalj on Jul 24, 2009 7:58:41 GMT -5
One of the biggest factors that may affect when (and even maybe if) the agency can hire 50 judges this fall is available ALJ office space. I have personally heard Judge Cristaudo say that after the spring hiring there are "about a dozen" open ALJ offices available in all of ODAR. Now maybe between normal attrition, judges transferring into the Chicago and Baltimore NHC's and the handful of hearing offices moving into new space there will be 50 open offices but I am somewhat skeptical they can get up to that number.
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Post by decadealj on Jul 24, 2009 10:50:04 GMT -5
My office for the first two months was a hearing room which I swapped with the office of the judge doing hearings, Walt Brudzinski's (now with another agency) first office was a desk in an elevator lobby in the Bronx!
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Post by Legal Beagle on Jul 24, 2009 16:14:42 GMT -5
David Foster said today that they plan on hiring 35-50 by November, and are looking at upping the goal for 2010 to 300, which would requir OPM to "refresh the register."
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Post by nonamouse on Jul 24, 2009 16:41:25 GMT -5
My office for the first two months was a hearing room which I swapped with the office of the judge doing hearings, Walt Brudzinski's (now with another agency) first office was a desk in an elevator lobby in the Bronx! Exactly spot on. Space never stops ODAR. My office had someone in a glorified broom closet. We have been magically finding "space" for all sorts of positions for the past few months, so if we are deemed to need another ALJ (oh please no more given our staff and # of hearing rooms) then by golly we will have to cram them somewhere. An ALJ can be temporarily stuck into a writer's sized office, a conference room or pretty much anywhere a small desk and chair can be shoved.
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Post by roggenbier on Jul 24, 2009 19:56:14 GMT -5
David Foster said today that they plan on hiring 35-50 by November, and are looking at upping the goal for 2010 to 300, which would requir OPM to "refresh the register."
Hmm, in the cardgame of bureaucracy...A new card has been played. With hiring 50 this year, there will not enough to hire FY 2010, hmm 50 x 3=150, 300 x 3=900, 150 x 3=450. I can assure readers that the register is less than 1350 and more than 600. Hmm, wonder why that doubling by his lordship, Comm foster? I want to see whether SSA will not hire any new judges unless it gets a refreshed register. The nuclear meltdown card. Don't know what to think, it's never been played.
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Post by privateatty on Jul 25, 2009 21:20:46 GMT -5
David Foster said today that they plan on hiring 35-50 by November, and are looking at upping the goal for 2010 to 300, which would requir OPM to "refresh the register." Hmm, in the cardgame of bureaucracy...A new card has been played. With hiring 50 this year, there will not enough to hire FY 2010, hmm 50 x 3=150, 300 x 3=900, 150 x 3=450. I can assure readers that the register is less than 1350 and more than 600. Hmm, wonder why that doubling by his lordship, Comm foster? I want to see whether SSA will not hire any new judges unless it gets a refreshed register. The nuclear meltdown card. Don't know what to think, it's never been played. Do they plan on going on a leasing spree too? Hmm, let's see, got office space, check. Got enough support staff, check. Got all the budget they need, check....
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