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Post by bhappy on Jul 11, 2013 16:43:09 GMT -5
I am: (1) on the current register (soon to expire); (2) made two certs (small GAL) and interviewed in Falls Church but got no offer; and (3) received the invitation to proceed to the next round of testing for the upcoming register. My question: if SSA passed me over once, is it worth the time and expense to repeat the process again? Any advice would be appreciated.
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Post by statman on Jul 11, 2013 16:50:39 GMT -5
If you truly want the job, go for it. There are no guarantees, but I highly doubt that your being passed over was anything so personal that the people at ODAR will have any memory of it. In my estimation, your chances are as good as any person who was not passed over.
FYI I am a current ALJ.
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Post by 71stretch on Jul 11, 2013 16:51:04 GMT -5
I am: (1) on the current register (soon to expire); (2) made two certs (small GAL) and interviewed in Falls Church but got no offer; and (3) received the invitation to proceed to the next round of testing for the upcoming register. My question: if SSA passed me over once, is it worth the time and expense to repeat the process again? Any advice would be appreciated. I'm essentially in the same boat. My first response is, practice makes perfect. They may take a completely fresh look at you if you've done well on this new testing process that is almost entirely designed at their request. With a higher score (and a bigger GAL, if you went that route) things change. And remember, if you do really well, there are other agencies out there if you have their smaller number of cities on your GAL. I'm going through it again, so I'm not going to tell anyone else not to. It's entirely your decision. |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Jul 11, 2013 16:54:02 GMT -5
Go for it! I would say "what have you got to lose" but I understand that the cost of traveling twice to DC (proctored testing and then the SI) and all that goes along with that (rescheduling hearings, appts, etc) is a potential loss. BUT....You will certainly NOT have any chance if you don't go.  |
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Post by bhappy on Jul 11, 2013 17:06:25 GMT -5
Statman, observer53 and sratty, thanks for your responses. My concern is that SSA will say: "Oh, not him again." If SSA did not make an offer previously, will SSA look at me fresh? That's my chief question.
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Post by 71stretch on Jul 11, 2013 17:12:07 GMT -5
You have no idea who else was in the running with you at the time you were on the earlier cert, and may not be able to tell whether they really considered you or not. Just because they liked someone else better (who may have had a higher score, been the one they wanted at that time, whatever) does NOT mean that in a whole new go around, they are not going to give you a fair look next time off the new register. Again, it's really up to you whether you want to go through it all again. None of us can answer that for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 17:14:30 GMT -5
bhappy, do you get any feedback after these interviews? Have you figured out what it is that is preventing you from being hired? You should be able to improve on weaknesses but if they are not hiring you because of a mold in the middle of your forehead then I would say that going for another interview is going to lead to disappointment again.
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Post by bhappy on Jul 11, 2013 17:36:57 GMT -5
exjag, I got no meaningful feedback from the Falls Church interview other than one of the interviewer ALJs said I did a good job and smiled. The other interviewer ALJ was polite and gave no indication one way or the other. I have been told that they are instructed to just ask the questions and record your responses. I had no small talk with either of the interviewer ALJs.
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Post by mcb on Jul 11, 2013 18:08:50 GMT -5
You will certainly NOT have any chance if you don't go. This. Don't want to have any regrets down the road.  |
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Post by aljwishhope on Jul 11, 2013 18:33:36 GMT -5
Go to DC or give me your address so I can come smack you:) you got to take your shot. You never know be optimistic. I bet a significant number of aljs especially recent ones got rejected at least once.
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Post by funkyodar on Jul 11, 2013 18:44:23 GMT -5
I think you should drop out. Someone so qualified as to have made it to DC under two different processes is a threat to his funkness  |
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Post by mcb on Jul 11, 2013 19:01:22 GMT -5
Go to DC or give me your address so I can come smack you:) you got to take your shot. You never know be optimistic. I bet a significant number of aljs especially recent ones got rejected at least once. I got hired on my 3rd attempt. |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Jul 11, 2013 19:10:29 GMT -5
I think you should drop out. Someone so qualified as to have made it to DC under two different processes is a threat to his funkness LOL! Funky I am so glad you are moving forward. Attitude is everything and yours is awesome! Cracking me up! |
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Post by Gaidin on Jul 11, 2013 20:03:08 GMT -5
I think you should drop out. Someone so qualified as to have made it to DC under two different processes is a threat to his funkness I'm with Funky. A threat like you should quit before you get ahead. |
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Post by christina on Jul 11, 2013 20:09:08 GMT -5
i know a sitting ALJ who was ready to throw in the towel and got picked up when they least expected it. id say go for it. Ur small GAL would have limited your offer chances.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 20:28:58 GMT -5
exjag, I got no meaningful feedback from the Falls Church interview other than one of the interviewer ALJs said I did a good job and smiled. The other interviewer ALJ was polite and gave no indication one way or the other. I have been told that they are instructed to just ask the questions and record your responses. I had no small talk with either of the interviewer ALJs. Bhappy, the feedback you received was probably spot on. You were probably up against some folks that did an outstanding job on the interview and who gave the interviewers the warm fuzzy feeling. As you know the best attorney does not always win the case if the jury does not like them. Look at the Casey Anthony case in FL, the jury decided that case solely on personalities of the attorneys. So you should probably look at improving your interview technique which requires that you read the body language of the folks interviewing you and pick up on the non verbals. They also do the same for you. If you come across as being unsure of yourself and perhaps giving short answers without eye contact they will just rate you along with the rest of the pack. Definitely do some objective inward analysis and see where you need to improve. Sell yourself because you are competing against other folks that are trying to get the same job as you are. Best of luck to you---definitely go to the interview. |
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Post by dreamer13 on Jul 11, 2013 20:56:52 GMT -5
Funky you should be a standup comic instead of an alj! I've been telling my friends about you over brunch on Sundays, they too find you quite entertaining!!!
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Post by Judicially Imployed on Jul 11, 2013 22:01:46 GMT -5
Funky you should be a standup comic instead of an alj! I've been telling my friends about you over brunch on Sundays, they too find you quite entertaining!!! A funky-fan!!! (Don't listen to her funky, the ALJ gig's got a much better dental plan than the folks doing stand-up) |
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Post by funkyodar on Jul 11, 2013 22:10:23 GMT -5
Funky you should be a standup comic instead of an alj! I've been telling my friends about you over brunch on Sundays, they too find you quite entertaining!!! A funky-fan!!! (Don't listen to her funky, the ALJ gig's got a much better dental plan than the folks doing stand-up) Yeah. But the groupies are older, bipolar and walk with a cane. |
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Post by Judicially Imployed on Jul 11, 2013 22:14:20 GMT -5
A funky-fan!!! (Don't listen to her funky, the ALJ gig's got a much better dental plan than the folks doing stand-up) Yeah. But the groupies are older, bipolar and walk with a cane. At odar or the comedy club? ( or both) |
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