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Post by gunner on Jul 13, 2013 15:11:55 GMT -5
Three person panel. Strict time limit. A baarage of open ended questions. If they would just add a traffic light style timing system it would be just like every fed circuit court appeal argument I've ever given. This actually quite reassuring to think about it this way. Yes, except for an appellate panel I know the general parameters of what they may ask me. |
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Post by aljwishhope on Jul 13, 2013 15:29:45 GMT -5
If I cannot self loath or have a pity party here where can I go? Because who really wants to hear from a six figure attorney especially in this economy with so many people just dreaming of any job. Or folks with real problems like a friend who is barely 40 and is working and recovering from major surgery to rid.her body of cancer. I figure only folks on this board will understand my pain. But will fairly lete wallow a little then give me the appriopriate kick to move on. After hoping for months in a few days I will put this behind me completely. Thanks to venting on this board and realizing I am not alone in being rejected and having a sense of other great folks who were rejected it is easier to let go. Best wishes to all.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jul 13, 2013 15:48:50 GMT -5
If I cannot self loath or have a pity party here where can I go? Because who really wants to hear from a six figure attorney especially in this economy with so many people just dreaming of any job. Or folks with real problems like a friend who is barely 40 and is working and recovering from major surgery to rid.her body of cancer. I figure only folks on this board will understand my pain. But will fairly lete wallow a little then give me the appriopriate kick to move on. After hoping for months in a few days I will put this behind me completely. Thanks to venting on this board and realizing I am not alone in being rejected and having a sense of other great folks who were rejected it is easier to let go. Best wishes to all. I wish more could have moved forward based upon some financial circumstances, but that isn't how the process works. I really feel for people in your situation or like the one you described, who hoped beyond hope for a chance to move on. The problem is I am moving on, but there is still no guarantee of any job even if I am lucky enough to make the register. Hence, like many things in life, it is just a crapshoot. If you are already making six figures, there would be little need for the ALJ job. I really wish you well in the future and I hope you can land on your feet with a great job somewhere that you love. Please keep trying and battling and never give up. I was just lucky enough to get a score to make it to D.C., but I have no guarantee of anything else. |
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Post by privateatty on Jul 14, 2013 9:34:22 GMT -5
I'm fully expecting to walk in, see the three interviewer panel rise and do a synchronized twirl, dip and slide and begin the chorus "we want the funk..." But that's just me. Actually, I did a variant of that in my first OPM interview. Even passed out cards! Did the hale-hearty hi ho. Boy, did I have alot to learn. Thank you Board! |
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Post by minny on Jul 22, 2013 21:47:02 GMT -5
This actually quite reassuring to think about it this way. Yes, except for an appellate panel I know the general parameters of what they may ask me. That's what I was thinking Gunner. I can know my case inside and out before I argue before a court of appeals. Not so here. |
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Post by funkyodar on Jul 23, 2013 6:44:29 GMT -5
Yes, except for an appellate panel I know the general parameters of what they may ask me. That's what I was thinking Gunner. I can know my case inside and out before I argue before a court of appeals. Not so here. You guys obvioulsy havent done much before the 5th Circuit, lol. Seems like everytime I went there the Judges on the panel questioned me about issues not even close to what was before them in my case. Prepared remarks went out the window immediately after, "May it please the Court". |
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Post by 71stretch on Jul 23, 2013 7:50:13 GMT -5
So, you sit in a sink down big chair and they sit at a table?  I've had many panel interviews--both as an interviewer and interviewee--but the applicant was seated similarly to the interviewers. I think the part about the sink down big chair was a joke. I certainly didn't get one. |
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Post by BagLady on Jul 23, 2013 10:24:47 GMT -5
Embassy Suites has "conference room" suites that have conference tables instead of living room furniture, so it's very possible it will be in one of those.
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Post by Gaidin on Jul 23, 2013 10:28:41 GMT -5
The idea of a bean bag chair makes me think of the "testing" in the first Men in Black movie. I would guess if anybody was in a big squishy chair it was because OPM couldn't find an uncomfortable metal conference center chair to make them sit in for an hour.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jul 23, 2013 14:00:06 GMT -5
The idea of a bean bag chair makes me think of the "testing" in the first Men in Black movie. I would guess if anybody was in a big squishy chair it was because OPM couldn't find an uncomfortable metal conference center chair to make them sit in for an hour. Should we imagine a uncomfortable metal conference chair with a bright overhead spotlight on us and the temperature in the room turned up to 85 degrees to determine if you can take the interview questioning without sweating or to see if you will breakdown and crack under the pressure? I guess I have watched too many police dramas over the years....... |
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Post by mcb on Jul 23, 2013 14:43:30 GMT -5
The idea of a bean bag chair makes me think of the "testing" in the first Men in Black movie. I would guess if anybody was in a big squishy chair it was because OPM couldn't find an uncomfortable metal conference center chair to make them sit in for an hour. a uncomfortable metal conference chair with a bright overhead spot light on us and the temperature in the room turned up to 85 degrees to determine if you can take the interview questioning without sweating or to see if you will breakdown and crack under the pressure? At a bare minimum, yes. |
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Post by mcb on Jul 23, 2013 14:46:52 GMT -5
So, you sit in a sink down big chair and they sit at a table? I've had many panel interviews--both as an interviewer and interviewee--but the applicant was seated similarly to the interviewers. Actually it was a round piece of hotel furniture that looked like a beanbag, though firmer, on four wheels legs. |
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Post by moopigsdad on Jul 23, 2013 14:48:52 GMT -5
Should we imagine a uncomfortable metal conference chair with a bright overhead spot light on us and the temperature in the room turned up to 85 degrees to determine if you can take the interview questioning without sweating or to see if you will breakdown and crack under the pressure? At a bare minimum, yes. Very funny mcb, very funny indeed my friend. Also, I would imagine there is a part of the test not yet disclosed to those taking it, which requires time on "the rack" as well. LOL! |
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Post by mcb on Jul 23, 2013 14:49:47 GMT -5
actually, IRAC.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jul 23, 2013 14:51:14 GMT -5
IRAC, I can agree would apply, no doubt about it.
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Post by mcb on Jul 23, 2013 16:24:53 GMT -5
"Actually it was a round piece of hotel furniture that looked like a beanbag, though firmer, on four wheels legs." Seriously??? That is so odd. That is where you sat? Yeah it was at the hotel listed below. I felt like I was an astronaut being strapped in a bucket seat titlted upward and sent into outer space. Hopefully they have new furniture now. *********************************************************************** This Email is generated automatically. Do not respond to this message. *********************************************************************** ************REMINDER************ DON'T FORGET! XXXXXXX X XXXXXXXX, you previously registered for the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) Structured Interview. Attending this interview is one of the steps toward having your name placed on the ALJ register. This is a reminder that you are scheduled for an interview: ON: 4/7/2010 9:45:00 AM Eastern Daylight Savings Time WHERE:
Crowne Plaza Old Town Alexandria 901 N. Fairfax Street Alexandria, VA 22314 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 You must bring the following items with you to the Structured Interview: (1) A government-issued picture ID card (example: driver's license) AND (2) Your Structured Interview admission notice.* Please email all requests, concerns, etc. to aljapplication@opm.gov *If you have misplaced your Structured Interview admission notice, bring a copy of this email with you to the interview to verify that you are scheduled for this test part. We look forward to seeing you on the date shown above. Please plan on arriving at the Structured Interview location at least 30 minutes prior to the start o |
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Post by 71stretch on Jul 23, 2013 16:37:43 GMT -5
When I was there at the end of May/first of June, 2010, there was no such chair. And, they are using a different hotel now anyway.  |
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Post by mcb on Jul 23, 2013 16:40:46 GMT -5
When I was there at the end of May/first of June, 2010, there was no such chair. And, they are using a different hotel now anyway. Perhaps they replaced the furniture in mid-April after my SI.  |
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Post by Gaidin on Jul 23, 2013 18:23:25 GMT -5
I think it's very weird they didn't just find a normal chair and seat you at the table! I doubt very much that if there is a table we will be at it. |
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Post by Gaidin on Jul 23, 2013 18:28:57 GMT -5
So they seat you separately from them? Well, this should be interesting Not a discussion but interrogation. This is not a discussion. If you read the description in OPM's materials about how a SI should occur you will realize this is NOT an interview but is instead another exam. There are good answers and bad answers and very bad answers. |
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I've had many panel interviews--both as an interviewer and interviewee--but the applicant was seated similarly to the interviewers. 
