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Post by moopigsdad on Jul 16, 2013 14:33:30 GMT -5
That may be hope. But under the totality of the circumstancesit appears the team that the powers that be want saas to play for is some other one and all you will "go get" is sucker punched. Think about it, if you do an "excellent" job and find a ton of otr cases you are going against the aparent battle plan of the agency in reducing the # of otrs. If you do an "excellent" job and up quality at the expense of quantity and then this little game of political poker ends with congressional mandates to agin focus on the backlog then you are the perfect scapegoat for why this new pilot program failed and a return to the old turn and burn is necessary. I'm a gambler, but not an idiot. A lose lose situation is pretty easy to spot. In the current agency climate, in my opinion now is not the time to want to "stand out" to management. Those at the front of the pack arein just as much danger as those at the back. The smart moneyis to batten down and stay with the herd till this storm of stupidity passes. Just my own funky opinion. Ah, agency-induced paranoia. Like i said, i haven't seen the announcement, but I get your point and likely have no intention of pursuing the opportunity. However, if you are that concerned with keeping your head down, you might want to reconsider starting threads like this one. ;-) MPD, I agree that doing well at the job isn't going to guarantee you an ALJ spot, but if you did well at it, it would certainly help your chances should you be lucky enough to land on a cert. Progressing through SSA, like just about every other organization in the world, is often contingent on impressing the right people. It's been said innumerable times on this board and shown on previous certificates that ODAR management finds ways to reach people they like on a cert. I don't disagree hopefalj, but also I have seen where being an insider has been detrimental to your chances (many discussions on the Board about that topic). However, I do agree that if you impress the right people at SSA it can be helpful to your chances, however how do you determine who are the right people to impress? If you don't live up to the expectations are you not hurting yourself even more for your chance at a position? Sometimes, the goalpost moves and you can never achieve success as expected or required, especially on pilot projects. It's that way in all types of government work and businesses.
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Post by relax on Jul 16, 2013 14:39:04 GMT -5
I agree with Hopeful. It's the chance to interact with people outside of your own office, make some new contacts, maybe pick up a new skill set, & not have to write decisions with poor instructions for a while.
It's only a detail. It's not permanent. It may be worth it to give up Flexiplace for nine months. It's not like you are giving it up forever. It looks like you could switch to a compressed work schedule.
Mommabear - it's a new detail announced yesterday, separate from the QR one.
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Post by Malice Aforethought on Jul 16, 2013 14:43:15 GMT -5
Thanks, relax. That's kinda what I was slowly deducing. The QR position loses flexi, too.
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Post by hopefalj on Jul 16, 2013 14:43:45 GMT -5
Ah, agency-induced paranoia. Like i said, i haven't seen the announcement, but I get your point and likely have no intention of pursuing the opportunity. However, if you are that concerned with keeping your head down, you might want to reconsider starting threads like this one. ;-) MPD, I agree that doing well at the job isn't going to guarantee you an ALJ spot, but if you did well at it, it would certainly help your chances should you be lucky enough to land on a cert. Progressing through SSA, like just about every other organization in the world, is often contingent on impressing the right people. It's been said innumerable times on this board and shown on previous certificates that ODAR management finds ways to reach people they like on a cert. I don't disagree hopefalj, but also I have seen where being an insider has been detrimental to your chances (many discussions on the Board about that topic). However, I do agree that if you impress the right people at SSA it can be helpful to your chances, however how do you determine who are the right people to impress? If you don't live up to the expectations are you not hurting yourself even more for your chance at a position? Sometimes, the goalpost moves and you can never achieve success as expected or required, especially on pilot projects. It's that way in all types of government work and businesses. Agree. That's why I indicated it was a gamble. Probably not a very good one, either.
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Post by funkyodar on Jul 16, 2013 14:53:37 GMT -5
When you are all referring to the SAA pilot program, are you referring to the regional postings for Quality Review Specialists? Or are you talking about an emailed detail that just went out to SAA? Just an saa thing mb. the qr thing is something diff.
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Post by Malice Aforethought on Jul 16, 2013 14:56:46 GMT -5
Thanks, Funky.
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Post by funkyodar on Jul 16, 2013 15:06:02 GMT -5
I think this new "pilot program" is just lip service to keep up the charade of paying saas gs13 while having them do nothing but AA gs12 work. Someone recently posted that the hods recommended removing ajudicative authority from saas and using them only as writers assigned the more difficult cases and as mentors for new hires. As part of this unspoken plan to hold down dispositions till congress snaps, I think the powers that be would have loved to do that. But if they make saas nothing more than writers there is no justification for paying them gs13. Current gs12s would have grounds for complaint. By keeping the illusion of adjudicative authority in the saa position they avoid that fight or the one they would have by trying to drop saas back to gs12 aa positions.
The fact that this was accomplished by creating a pilot program that has no chance to succeed (by the old def of agency success anyway) and therefore provide perfect scapegoats is an intended bonus.
That's my deluded conspiracy theory anyway.
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Post by tripper on Jul 16, 2013 15:43:50 GMT -5
LOL! Yep, the Price in NOT Right! Right. Thanks but no thanks.
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