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Post by Gaidin on Sept 25, 2013 21:31:45 GMT -5
Really, you felt the need to post to that comment. You guys are wrapped way too tight! Try Criminal Defense for a decade or so and you will relax a little or 20 years in the Army and a war zone tour of duty. But thanks for your comments. Wow you are really full of yourself aren't you there rockstar. How many times can you tell folks how really impressive your career is and how it makes you so much cooler than the people who are just trying to keep the thread from getting derailed yet again. I think you might need to coo your jets there sparky.
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Post by trekker on Sept 25, 2013 21:46:06 GMT -5
Did I just enter the twilight zone? Tiger you need to cool your jets and be more respectable. I may not have ever entered a war zone but my father survived Iwo Jima and my spouse was in Op Storm and Desert on the forward line. Both retired from the military. One with 20 yrs; the other with 24. Try living your entire life with vets who survived war. It is not a walk in the park. And I'm a legal aid attorney dealing with clients suffering from a wide range of mental illness. Most of us on this board have had a lot of experience dealing with stressful situations. And while I may not do criminal law - I have had more than a passing attorney-client relationship with my fare share of violent clients. After your clients get out of jail they come to me for help and then get pissed off because they cannot get benefits. I would bet that given the number of vets, reps, and ALJ's on this board, we can match your war stories. And most of us have families. Most of us have just agreed to disagree.
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Post by ssaogc on Sept 25, 2013 22:33:40 GMT -5
Did I just enter the twilight zone? Tiger you need to cool your jets and be more respectable. I may not have ever entered a war zone but my father survived Iwo Jima and my spouse was in Op Storm and Desert on the forward line. Both retired from the military. One with 20 yrs; the other with 24. Try living your entire life with vets who survived war. It is not a walk in the park. And I'm a legal aid attorney dealing with clients suffering from a wide range of mental illness. Most of us on this board have had a lot of experience dealing with stressful situations. And while I may not do criminal law - I have had more than a passing attorney-client relationship with my fare share of violent clients. After your clients get out of jail they come to me for help and then get pissed off because they cannot get benefits. I would bet that given the number of vets, reps, and ALJ's on this board, we can match your war stories. And most of us have families. Most of us have just agreed to disagree. Cool your jets? That's what I have said to others, but not in those idiotic "Gaidin" terms. But please don't try to equate your legal experience with combat experience, PLEASE don't go there. I have lived my life with a vet who survived a war, ME! We all do great things for our Clients. You will find nothing that I have said tonight to be disrespectful and if my proud service bothers you or Gaidin, sorry....I served my country for 20 years and you didn't, get over it and if that makes you feel the need to borrow your daddy's and wife's experience to respond, good for you. tigerlaw, I mainly lurk like you seem to do until recently. I believe you should stay lurking, you seem to drop in out of nowhere and inject your opinion that incites others. I noticed this in the thread about aljustice where you stirred the pot and got folks going about what exafjag posted, now you have done it again in this thread. Further, you are like everyone else on this board, you are entitled to your opinion and it is just that an opinion. It is admirable that you served your country but I do not know why that would make your opinion better than the opinion of others. Now go back to lurking and post when you have something to contribute instead of stirring the pot.
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Post by mcb on Sept 25, 2013 22:35:30 GMT -5
That's it! I''m taking my ball and going home.
...and my dad can still beat up your dad, BTW!
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Post by agilitymom on Sept 26, 2013 6:56:12 GMT -5
Back to furloughs....recent rumor is that it is looking like there may be a 7-day (yes...7 day) CR passed so the federal government may not go into shutdown on 1 Oct. One can only hope.
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Post by moopigsdad on Sept 26, 2013 7:02:10 GMT -5
At least it would buy some time agilitymom for something longer to be accomplished.
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Post by minny on Sept 26, 2013 8:00:37 GMT -5
Back to furloughs....recent rumor is that it is looking like there may be a 7-day (yes...7 day) CR passed so the federal government may not go into shutdown on 1 Oct. One can only hope. I hope this is true. Thanks for spreading the rumor!
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Post by sealaw90 on Sept 26, 2013 8:18:27 GMT -5
Back to furloughs....recent rumor is that it is looking like there may be a 7-day (yes...7 day) CR passed so the federal government may not go into shutdown on 1 Oct. One can only hope. Thanks for the rumor agilitymom! So far my agency is saying 'report on Tuesday and we'll let you know then", but if I hear more I will post it. Let's keep posting more on the possible shut down nstead of the other chatter on this board so that the rest of us 20+ year veterans with over 20 years of criminal defense behind us can focus on the real goal - securing an ALJ job!
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Post by Ace Midnight on Sept 26, 2013 8:57:03 GMT -5
Back to furloughs....recent rumor is that it is looking like there may be a 7-day (yes...7 day) CR passed so the federal government may not go into shutdown on 1 Oct. One can only hope. Thanks for the rumor agilitymom! So far my agency is saying 'report on Tuesday and we'll let you know then", but if I hear more I will post it. Let's keep posting more on the possible shut down nstead of the other chatter on this board so that the rest of us 20+ year veterans with over 20 years of criminal defense behind us can focus on the real goal - securing an ALJ job! I think that OPM is publishing this guidance for people to come in on October 1st and take direction from management. Therefore, with some exceptions, that may be Fedgov-wide policy.
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Post by sealaw90 on Sept 26, 2013 9:04:09 GMT -5
Agreed. I got my personal copy of the OPM guide yesterday. It's the same as last years, and that is the policy.
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Post by epic0ego on Sept 26, 2013 9:23:50 GMT -5
many have felt that there would be no shutdown because of the political price that was paid the last time it was done in 1995. it appears that past experience eventually informs even those out on the extreme fringes. The House leadership just blinked and said they would agree to a two-week continuing resoluton and to lift the debt ceiling in mid-October, if implementation of the affordable care act is "delayed" for one year. This is no panacea but it appears to set the stage for a Senate/House Joint Conference to pass a budget. This would effectively take us into fiscal 2015 because there is virtually no chance that the knuckleheads would pull this stunt in Sept. 2014, a month or so before the entire House comes up for a vote. Reason will prevail, notwithstanding the anarchists.
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Post by bartleby on Sept 26, 2013 9:29:43 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I just recieved this:
A Message To All SSA Employees
Subject: Budget Update
As a follow-up to my September 18th email, I want to provide you an update on our planning with regards to a potential lapse in appropriations at midnight on September 30. The Administration continues to strongly believe that a lapse in funding should not occur. There is enough time for Congress to prevent a lapse in appropriations, and the Administration is willing to work with Congress to enact a short-term continuing resolution to fund critical Government operations and allow Congress the time to complete the full year 2014 appropriations. However, prudent management requires that we prepare for all contingencies, including the possibility that a lapse could occur at the end of the month.
As part of our effort to keep employees apprised of the planning efforts, we are providing further information on how a potential lapse will affect you and our service to the public. Under a lapse in funding, our actions and decisions about what activities continue are governed by legal opinions issued by the Attorney General and the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) of the Department of Justice.
In consultation with our Office of the General Counsel, we have determined which of our activities may continue under these legal requirements. Similarly, we have determined which employees would report to work in the event of a lapse in funding, and which employees must be placed on furlough. Should a lapse occur, and depending on the length of the lapse period, these determinations may change over time as circumstances evolve.
Your managers will begin reaching out to you later today to explain your status under a potential lapse. These conversations are designed to provide clarity on how a potential lapse will affect you, but they do not constitute an official notice of furlough. Importantly, the categorization of whether or not you are furloughed is not a reflection on the quality of your work, nor of your importance to our agency. It is merely a reflection of the legal requirements that we must operate under should a lapse occur.
I understand that the uncertainty of the current circumstances puts you in a difficult situation. Should a lapse occur, it is likely to impose hardships on many of you as well as the people who come to us for critical services every day. We will do our best to support you throughout this period and I will continue to update you as new information becomes available in the coming days. In addition, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) has created a document to address some of the questions related to a lapse that may be on your mind. The document can be accessed on OPM’s website.
Once again, I want to thank you for your hard work and unwavering commitment to serve the public. Despite the uncertainty of the current situation, and the possibility that the outcome could adversely affect you and your family, I know I can count on you to continue to provide compassionate service to the millions of Americans who come to us for help at the most critical times of their lives.
Carolyn W. Colvin Acting Commissioner
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Post by lildavey on Sept 26, 2013 10:48:01 GMT -5
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Post by moopigsdad on Sept 26, 2013 11:12:06 GMT -5
Only time will tell. Nothing like a little bit of suspense to keep us on the edge of our seats.
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Post by minny on Sept 26, 2013 14:44:40 GMT -5
The latest is comforting news. I did receive an email acknowledging receipt of my email plus follow-up asking what OPM's contingency plans might be in the event of a shutdown. No response to the question,though.
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Post by 71stretch on Sept 26, 2013 15:29:54 GMT -5
The latest is comforting news. I did receive an email acknowledging receipt of my email plus follow-up asking what OPM's contingency plans might be in the event of a shutdown. No response to the question,though. And here is the answer, I expect you are getting the same one I did: "If the Federal government is shut down in October 2013, the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) examination will still be administered.
Please note, however, that because other Federal employees who support the ALJ examination may be affected by the shutdown, we may be short staffed.
Accordingly, this may require applicants to be rescheduled for their WD/LBMT and/or SI sessions at a later date. We appreciate your understanding and flexibility during these periods."
Not helpful. We are still going to do the exam, but we will be shortstaffed which may require rescheduling. AND WHEN would we find that out? When we show up at OPM and they hand us new dates?
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Post by moopigsdad on Sept 26, 2013 15:36:29 GMT -5
The latest is comforting news. I did receive an email acknowledging receipt of my email plus follow-up asking what OPM's contingency plans might be in the event of a shutdown. No response to the question,though. And here is the answer, I expect you are getting the same one I did: "If the Federal government is shut down in October 2013, the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) examination will still be administered.
Please note, however, that because other Federal employees who support the ALJ examination may be affected by the shutdown, we may be short staffed.
Accordingly, this may require applicants to be rescheduled for their WD/LBMT and/or SI sessions at a later date. We appreciate your understanding and flexibility during these periods."
Not helpful. We are still going to do the exam, but we will be shortstaffed which may require rescheduling. AND WHEN would we find that out? When we show up at OPM and they hand us new dates? Very interesting email from OPM. First, OPM says they exam still will be administered. Then, it says we may be short-staffed, so it could require applicants to reschedule. So, which is it, will it still be administered or will they be short-staffed and reschedule parts of the exam? Not too helpful as you state observer53. If you have to reschedule part of the exam, you might as reschedule the whole exam as you will have to travel back to DC for it a second time if not fully completed. I hope there is no shutdown and testing continues. Good luck!
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Post by workdrone on Sept 26, 2013 16:07:59 GMT -5
I am guessing that OPM response has to do with the SI portion of the exam. As the ALJ panelists come from other federal agencies, OPM has no control whether they get furloughed or not. Hence the possibility of not having enough staff to administer the SI portion of the exam.
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Post by minny on Sept 26, 2013 16:09:45 GMT -5
The latest is comforting news. I did receive an email acknowledging receipt of my email plus follow-up asking what OPM's contingency plans might be in the event of a shutdown. No response to the question,though. And here is the answer, I expect you are getting the same one I did: "If the Federal government is shut down in October 2013, the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) examination will still be administered.
Please note, however, that because other Federal employees who support the ALJ examination may be affected by the shutdown, we may be short staffed.
Accordingly, this may require applicants to be rescheduled for their WD/LBMT and/or SI sessions at a later date. We appreciate your understanding and flexibility during these periods."
Not helpful. We are still going to do the exam, but we will be shortstaffed which may require rescheduling. AND WHEN would we find that out? When we show up at OPM and they hand us new dates? Yes, observer53, I just received the same message and find it not very helpful.
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Post by Pixie on Sept 27, 2013 11:10:34 GMT -5
OPM is planning on conducting the interviews as scheduled in the event of a shutdown. The judges scheduled for the interviews are considered essential in this part of their job as well as hearing and deciding cases. So that hurdle has been overcome.
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