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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 9:56:44 GMT -5
Someone in my office indicted a transfer offeree called the office. S/he reported s/he was made an offer and has a short time to decide. If this is true, then you know a cert is quickly forthcoming.
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Post by BagLady on Feb 6, 2014 10:25:53 GMT -5
Dragonfly reported receiving two "Reassignment Register Inquiry" emails, asking her to indicate whether she would actually accept reassignment to two of the offices on her transfer list.
aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/49142
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Post by sealaw90 on Feb 6, 2014 10:51:30 GMT -5
Well what would be interesting to know is which offices seem to be getting transfers in, as they may not be offices who will be on the cert. Although in the past we've seen an office receive both a transfer and a new ALJ, based on older posts tothis board. Does anyone have a list of current ODAR locales that are gaining or losing ALJs due to transfers?
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Post by zebra51 on Feb 6, 2014 12:54:25 GMT -5
Went back to the thread on Transfer list that had the new Union agreement on how transfers will be made. With Dragonfly reporting having received "Reassignment Register Inquiry" emails, it looks like they are following this. aljdiscussion.proboards.com/thread/2344/transfer-list-question?page=2Quick reassignment timeline: 5 Days to respond to inquiry; 3 Days to accept or decline offer reassignment; 45 Days to report after accepting. Looks like it moves quickly. :-) ARTICLE 20 REASSIGNMENTS AND HARDSHIPS Section 3 G. Prior to making any offers to Judges on the reassignment register for an office with at least one (1) vacancy, the Employer shall send an e-mail to the office e-mail of all judges on the register for that office in advance of any anticipated reassignments to that office. This e-mail will not be an offer of reassignment, but shall inquire of each Judge as to whether he or she would be willing to accept a transfer to that office, should the Employer make such a reassignment offer within the next ninety (90) calendar days. The e-mail shall state that all Judges must respond within five (5) working days of receipt of the e-mail. If a Judge does not respond within five (5) working days of receipt of this inquiry, the lack of reply shall be deemed to be a waiver of reassignment. However, this would not change the ranking of a Judge on the reassignment register for that office. After the five (5) business day response period, the Employer will commence making offers for reassignment from the affirmed list in accordance with Section 3(F), above. If a Judge responds to the e-mail inquiry stating that he or she would accept such a reassignment if offered and then subsequently declines an offer when it is made, the Judge will be removed from the register for that location for a period of one (1) year. H. If, upon consideration, the Employer does not offer a reassignment to the Judge who is first on the affirmed list in accordance with Section 3.F., above, for a hearing office with a permanent opening, the Employer will provide its reason(s) in writing for the non-selection to the Judge not selected. The Parties agree that the following reasons may justify the non-selection of an otherwise eligible Judge: factors set forth in cases dealing with the employment relationship. Although not inclusive, examples of cases containing agreed upon factors are set forth in Appendix A. I. Upon notification that he or she has been selected for a requested reassignment, a Judge will accept or decline within three (3) working days of the notification. If a Judge declines an offer of reassignment three (3) times, regardless of location, his or her name will be removed from the register for all locations for a period of at least two (2) years. J. If a Judge accepts a reassignment his or her name shall be removed from the register for other offices and he or she must report to the new office within forty-five (45) days of acceptance or as otherwise mutually agreed by the Parties. A Judge who accepts a reassignment shall continue to hear and decide cases that have been scheduled for him or her in the hearing office he or she is leaving and will coordinate his or her travel plans with the gaining hearing office to facilitate the scheduling of hearings to be held upon reporting for duty at the new location. K. A Judge may have his or her name removed from any voluntary reassignment register by sending a written request to the Office of the Chief Administrative Law Judge’s specified e-mail box with copies to the proposed gaining and losing Regional Chief ALJ(s) and the AALJ President or designee.
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Post by bartleby on Feb 6, 2014 13:26:59 GMT -5
Not so fast there Zebra, the Agency has 90 days (or longer) to make the reassignment offer to the sitting Judge... That throws another 90 days or so into the mix.. Still could be hires in June or July as previously thought..
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Post by Gaidin on Feb 6, 2014 13:44:28 GMT -5
Not so fast there Zebra, the Agency has 90 days (or longer) to make the reassignment offer to the sitting Judge... That throws another 90 days or so into the mix.. Still could be hires in June or July as previously thought.. Bart given the length of time time to hire etc. Wouldn't they know (approximately) which hearing offices they were hiring for after the initial five days. They could still delay the transfer offers but they should know by the end of the initial 5 days whether Judge A will accept a transfer from Crapland to the Coast? That should mean that they can tell OPM which cities they need a cert for the day the NORs come out? Whether they are orchestrating a delay with OPM or simply know what OPM's timeline for release is they will soon go on the clock with only 90 days to make transfer decisions.
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Post by bartleby on Feb 6, 2014 15:15:36 GMT -5
The latest:
Date: February 6, 2014 To: All Administrative Law Judges
From: John R. Allen /s/ Deputy Chief Administrative Law Judge
Subject: Availability of Satellite Offices for Reassignment Requests
Per Article 20, Section 1(C) of the AALJ/IFPTE agreement effective September 30, 2013, we now accept reassignment requests to satellite offices, in addition to hearing offices. Our current satellite offices are:
• Boise, ID SO • Rio Grande Valley, TX SO • Casper, WY SO • Rochester, NY SO • Fort Myers, FL SO • Santa Barbara, CA SO • Rapid City, SD SO • Sioux Falls, SD SO
As a reminder, as per Article 20, Section 3(D), a Judge may request up to a total of five (5) hearing or satellite offices for reassignment.
• Rio Grande Valley, TX SO • Rochester, NY SO • Santa Barbara, CA SO • Sioux Falls, SD SO
Harlingen Texas, ie, Rio Grande Valley has a great turn over of Judges for a two Judge office, Fairly cheap living, but standards of living questionable..
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Post by robespierre on Feb 6, 2014 15:20:06 GMT -5
Couldn't they just be running the transfer list without regard for the ongoing register/cert process? Yeah, I had the same question. Why does transfer activity mean "you know a cert is quickly forthcoming"? Transferring judges around doesn't create any new vacancies that would need filling via a cert. The transferee office fills a slot while the transferor office opens a slot; a wash.
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Post by hopefalj on Feb 6, 2014 15:31:30 GMT -5
Couldn't they just be running the transfer list without regard for the ongoing register/cert process? Sure, they could be. But given the numerous examples in the past of SSA going to the transfer list prior to requesting a cert, there are several current vacancies, and that no one in the current process is awaiting results, it stands to reason that things are moving towards a new cert off the new register.
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Post by 71stretch on Feb 6, 2014 15:34:54 GMT -5
Couldn't they just be running the transfer list without regard for the ongoing register/cert process? Yeah, I had the same question. Why does transfer activity mean "you know a cert is quickly forthcoming"? Transferring judges around doesn't create any new vacancies that would need filling via a cert. The transferee office fills a slot while the transferor office opens a slot; a wash. It's a wash in terms of numbers, but it theoretically helps SSA figure out which cities need to be on the cert.
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Post by Gaidin on Feb 6, 2014 15:37:11 GMT -5
Couldn't they just be running the transfer list without regard for the ongoing register/cert process? Yeah, I had the same question. Why does transfer activity mean "you know a cert is quickly forthcoming"? Transferring judges around doesn't create any new vacancies that would need filling via a cert. The transferee office fills a slot while the transferor office opens a slot; a wash. It might be nothing but it is a necessary precursor to hiring as well. I recall reading that under the contract ODAR is obligated to run the transfer list before hiring. It is a wash in terms of number of positions. However, it is for the benefit of the already employed. If you are already employed and number 1 on the transfer list and some newbie gets your ticket to the Coast and you're still stranded in Crapland you might get you dander up.
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Post by Dark Lord of the Sith on Feb 6, 2014 16:01:52 GMT -5
Ouch twist my arm....I'd go to Santa Barbara in a New York minute.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Feb 6, 2014 16:39:28 GMT -5
Not so fast there Zebra, the Agency has 90 days (or longer) to make the reassignment offer to the sitting Judge... That throws another 90 days or so into the mix.. Still could be hires in June or July as previously thought.. I'm pretty sure ODAR can "overshoot" on the cities a little bit - I mean, they know who is where and who says they want to go elsewhere. They can make a map, again after the 5 days pass, then show a projected new map and request a cert for the projected - if there a few questions here or there, they can add a couple of extra cities and draw 3 more candidates (potentially) for each one. I mean, it is not like offices in Kentucky and Louisiana have suddenly become popular with the ALJ corps, right? Judges hired there in the last couple of years - unless they're from there, can reasonably be expected to transfer out - particularly if they're on the transfer list. A few fall in love with those places, but, a pattern is a pattern.
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Post by mcb on Feb 6, 2014 17:05:51 GMT -5
Two days ago, a friend of mine accepted a transfer (reassignment offer) to an ODAR 30 minutes from his home. His current ODAR is 6 hours from his home. His email did not indicate a report for duty date.
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Post by 71stretch on Feb 6, 2014 17:20:13 GMT -5
Not so fast there Zebra, the Agency has 90 days (or longer) to make the reassignment offer to the sitting Judge... That throws another 90 days or so into the mix.. Still could be hires in June or July as previously thought.. I'm pretty sure ODAR can "overshoot" on the cities a little bit - I mean, they know who is where and who says they want to go elsewhere. They can make a map, again after the 5 days pass, then show a projected new map and request a cert for the projected - if there a few questions here or there, they can add a couple of extra cities and draw 3 more candidates (potentially) for each one. I mean, it is not like offices in Kentucky and Louisiana have suddenly become popular with the ALJ corps, right? Judges hired there in the last couple of years - unless they're from there, can reasonably be expected to transfer out - particularly if they're on the transfer list. A few fall in love with those places, but, a pattern is a pattern. True, because in the last few years they have more than once not filled a position for every city on the cert, either by new hire or, apparently, transfer. They get a bigger cert than they actually need, but that gives them more people to look at.
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Post by funkyodar on Feb 6, 2014 18:05:32 GMT -5
I also heard from a judge who knows a judge that just accepted a transfer. he also said he heard in a discussion with some higher ups that hiring this year may be up to 150. He then did say that he has heard 90 to 100 more often and from more sources.
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Post by robespierre on Feb 6, 2014 18:28:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I had the same question. Why does transfer activity mean "you know a cert is quickly forthcoming"? Transferring judges around doesn't create any new vacancies that would need filling via a cert. The transferee office fills a slot while the transferor office opens a slot; a wash. It's a wash in terms of numbers, but it theoretically helps SSA figure out which cities need to be on the cert. OK, that makes sense, thanks.
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Post by philliesfan on Feb 6, 2014 19:37:37 GMT -5
I know one Judge who transferred from my office two weeks ago, another from a diiferent office who is supposed to report to the transfer office next month, and I was sent an inquiry about my interest in transferring three weeks ago. BTW, one of the reasons that when a Judge accepts a transfer no report date is provided is because all transfers must be approved by OPM. The approval is perfunctory, but is necessary. When I got my transfer offer back home, it took two weeks before OPM approved and I could arrange a reporting date, which was then only two weeks later.
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Post by Dark Lord of the Sith on Feb 6, 2014 23:40:17 GMT -5
I also heard from a judge who knows a judge that just accepted a transfer. he also said he heard in a discussion with some higher ups that hiring this year may be up to 150. He then did say that he has heard 90 to 100 more often and from more sources. I reported this in another thread.....that a high person in the galactic senate said between 100 and 125 by September with several from Medicare too. Given these numbers GAL might not be a big issue in the first cert cause I don't think crapville has 100 plus slots....
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Post by anotherfed on Feb 7, 2014 1:02:27 GMT -5
I also heard from a judge who knows a judge that just accepted a transfer. he also said he heard in a discussion with some higher ups that hiring this year may be up to 150. He then did say that he has heard 90 to 100 more often and from more sources. I reported this in another thread.....that a high person in the galactic senate said between 100 and 125 by September with several from Medicare too. Given these numbers GAL might not be a big issue in the first cert cause I don't think crapville has 100 plus slots.... But I heard from my dog sitter's brother's landlord's cousin, who might be an ALJ, that one of the conditions for the higher SSA budget was that Crapville must become a new central clearing house, with a similarly high number of new hires in its East Crapland satellite office. Can anyone confirm this?
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