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Post by jpjoker on Feb 12, 2014 14:50:30 GMT -5
Based on the thread, people have requested transfers. Has anyone received an offer for transfer yet? Not just the inquiry e-mail, but an actual offer?
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Post by bartleby on Feb 12, 2014 14:55:24 GMT -5
All I can say is yes.
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Post by philliesfan on Feb 12, 2014 15:41:58 GMT -5
I know of one transfer that has happened, one that will happen at the start of March, and another offer and acceptance that happened this week. In addition, I received an inquiry about my transfer request three weeks ago.
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Post by southeastalj on Feb 12, 2014 16:38:59 GMT -5
Transfer inquiries and offers are being made to numerous cities in many regions. Agency must first find an ALJ vacancy and then have the workload and support staff to warrant filling the vacancy. Bigger regions such 4 and 5 appear to be seeing the most action. Hope this helps. Confused. Does this not run contrary to alj's post on this thread on 2/9 that ODAR doesn't care about pending workloads or support staff situtation. They see an empty office and move to put a lawyer's behind in the empty chair therein. You're confusing hiring a new judge versus allowing an existing judge to transfer. When looking at transfers the agency definitely looks at the pending workloads in each office in determining if its appropriate to offer a transfer. When it comes to hiring though, the object is to fill each and every empty office that the budget will allow.
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Post by bartleby on Feb 12, 2014 17:01:12 GMT -5
Let me add what you all know but don't want to hear. Every desirable office with an opening is sending inquiries of interest and offering transfers to sitting Judges as we speak, uhhh, type. With sitting Judges having up to five (5) selections and NHC Judges having God only knows how many ( ) selections, I fear the pickings will be less than desirable for some. If one has a small GAL, it may be a moot point.
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Post by privateatty on Feb 12, 2014 17:08:11 GMT -5
I have a friend who is reporting the first week of Apr. to another office--transfer approved.
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Post by deltajudge on Feb 12, 2014 17:11:00 GMT -5
8-)Bart, is there any rhyme of reason to this? I'm completely out it for obvious reasons, but to see the uncertainty and confusion for those involved when their future is involved, just don't seem right. Whose to blame?
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Post by privateatty on Feb 12, 2014 17:12:40 GMT -5
Y'all do know that aljfaq is an OPM plant here for the singular purpose of getting a rise out of you, right? Classic aljfaq, well played, well played. OPM plant? Seriously? The organization of his posts, along with the command of grammar, proper spelling, and geographical knowledge suggests intellectual functioning well beyond the borderline level we've come to expect from the Office of Personnel Mismanagement... val, you really gotta drop in more often! Tell me you don't miss the slap happy '08s, 09's and 10's. Isn't that latter year that you finally felt what "black robe fever" felt like from the inside out? By the way, Readers, valkyrie's first post (8/1/08) is golden, as so many subsequnet ones are. There is a wealth of information and just plain entertainment in them. funky and sratty in particular may find food for thought. He who laughs last, laughs best.
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Post by 71stretch on Feb 12, 2014 17:22:09 GMT -5
Let me add what you all know but don't want to hear. Every desirable office with an opening is sending inquiries of interest and offering transfers to sitting Judges as we speak, uhhh, type. With sitting Judges having up to five (5) selections and NHC Judges having God only knows how many ( ) selections, I fear the pickings will be less than desirable for some. If one has a small GAL, it may be a moot point. Quite true. Anyone out there with a small GAL for generally undesirable locations? With a good score, this could be your chance.
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Post by bartleby on Feb 12, 2014 17:37:24 GMT -5
Delta judge, it's a combination of things that have occurred at different times. The Agency wants to keep undesirable offices staffed so attempts to appear to make promises that transfers are many and frequent and relatively easy have happened. Even the most recent hires have completed their 90 days and are in line to be transferred. In reality it is a fluid matrix that works well for one occasionally and works terribly for many a lot. The Baby Boomers seem to be more resolute and able to accept the fates whereas the younger generations have more of an attitude of entitlement and less tolerance for perceived hardships. It's probably our fault since we raised them. Too much Spock and not enough of the rod. I am sure they could all do well anywhere, but I am not sure they know that.
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Post by Dark Lord of the Sith on Feb 12, 2014 18:22:43 GMT -5
Well that is good info especially if they follow previous years schemes and allow us to amend our GAL. Here is a freaky thing. I have it on good word that 10 point vets can actually amend their GAL since they can petition to have the register opened at any time. At least that was allowed under the last testing scheme.
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Post by ssaogc on Feb 12, 2014 19:35:12 GMT -5
Well that is good info especially if they follow previous years schemes and allow us to amend our GAL. Here is a freaky thing. I have it on good word that 10 point vets can actually amend their GAL since they can petition to have the register opened at any time. At least that was allowed under the last testing scheme. You are correct! 10 pointers can amend their GAL but to do so requires that they undergo the entire testing process again.
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Post by 71stretch on Feb 13, 2014 3:29:43 GMT -5
Well that is good info especially if they follow previous years schemes and allow us to amend our GAL. Here is a freaky thing. I have it on good word that 10 point vets can actually amend their GAL since they can petition to have the register opened at any time. At least that was allowed under the last testing scheme. They aren't going to allow the amendment of GALs anytime soon. They did it in 2012 ( for the first time ever, I believe) later in the life of the register, to have the effect of making the register "larger" without having to actually open it up. They thought that more would expand their GALs than contract them, and I firmly believe they ended up being right. With a brand new register, they are going to let it ride for a while, a couple of years at least.
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Post by hamster on Feb 13, 2014 7:07:45 GMT -5
I just accepted a transfer to another office, reporting in about 45 days. Just a coupla things. First, I was also on the transfer list for two relatively isolated, non-cosmopolitan, cold places. I'd love to have been assigned to either of those places, although I daresay a lot of other ALJs probably wouldn't. So, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some crazy people really want to go only where eagles dare. Not everybody wants to go to Honolulu...but I wouldn't say no to that, either. Second, there were three other ALJs ahead of me on the transfer list to the place where I'm going, but apparently only one vacancy. All three would have been contacted, yet all three must have said they were not interested. So, even if you aren't #1 on the transfer list for a particular locale, you still might get there quick. Don't give up hope.
Good luck to those of you awaiting your NORs. Best, Hamster
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Post by Dark Lord of the Sith on Feb 13, 2014 12:09:14 GMT -5
This could either be good news or bad news. I heard from a reliable source that an email was sent to ALJs informing them that no new hires or transfers will be sent to region 9 because as a whole region 9 has to many ALJs.....GAL is going to be big....BIG.....I fear...despite already being big.....
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Post by sandiferhands (old) on Feb 13, 2014 12:30:18 GMT -5
Hamster, not to pry, and if you can't answer that's perfectly OK. But how long were you on the T list for each of the three places you described?
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Post by sealaw90 on Feb 13, 2014 12:35:57 GMT -5
This could either be good news or bad news. I heard from a reliable source that an email was sent to ALJs informing them that no new hires or transfers will be sent to region 9 because as a whole region 9 has to many ALJs.....GAL is going to be big....BIG.....I fear...despite already being big..... Does your reliable source say anything about region 3? As a matter of fact, can anybody out there shed some light on transfer/future hiring activity in regions 2 and 3?
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Post by paris on Feb 13, 2014 12:42:14 GMT -5
Can you please advise if this email re California is something recent and when this email was sent. Is it something in the last few days or a few months ago? Was it something sent to all ALJs? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
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Post by hopefalj on Feb 13, 2014 12:47:29 GMT -5
Hamster, not to pry, and if you can't answer that's perfectly OK. But how long were you on the T list for each of the three places you described? I know this doesn't exactly answer your question, but It looks like hamster has been an ALJ since the beginning of 2012. Has to be less than 2 years.
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Post by jonmom on Feb 13, 2014 12:49:14 GMT -5
I just accepted a transfer to another office, reporting in about 45 days. Just a coupla things. First, I was also on the transfer list for two relatively isolated, non-cosmopolitan, cold places. I'd love to have been assigned to either of those places, although I daresay a lot of other ALJs probably wouldn't. So, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some crazy people really want to go only where eagles dare. Not everybody wants to go to Honolulu...but I wouldn't say no to that, either. Second, there were three other ALJs ahead of me on the transfer list to the place where I'm going, but apparently only one vacancy. All three would have been contacted, yet all three must have said they were not interested. So, even if you aren't #1 on the transfer list for a particular locale, you still might get there quick. Don't give up hope. Good luck to those of you awaiting your NORs. Best, Hamster I have just accepted an offer to transfer. Prior to that I received a transfer inquiry for that same office, and the inquiry came 8 days before I received the actual offer. There was one ALJ before me and I don't know if he/she declined or accepted another vacancy. I am not saying the region I am going to, but I was also on the transfer list for locations in region 4 and did not receive an inquiry for those. Neither have some of my friends that are waiting for region 4.
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