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Post by Pixie on Aug 30, 2015 15:04:11 GMT -5
The reason there is a CA at all is basic fairness to all testees, so if it is violated it doesn't just put the violator in jeopardy. It potentially hurts others. Agreed. I am going to start paying more attention to questions and answers about testing protocol. If anything much more than the bare mechanics of getting to the testing site, temperature in the room, food, water, etc. are discussed, I am going to delete the messages. I think this is the consensus of the board, and I think it is fair to all involved in the process. And I am not saying the ones who have posted this information are wrong, but just that the rules are evolving, based on the membership of the board. It is your board; I am here to make things go more smoothly. Pix. |
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Post by gary on Aug 30, 2015 15:05:39 GMT -5
Thanks Pix.
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Post by lizdarcy on Aug 30, 2015 15:12:24 GMT -5
To me, the existence of a spellcheck feature falls into the same category as temperature, food and water. It has nothing to do with the exam itself. I have tried to see it otherwise but I just can't see how knowing whether you can spellcheck gives someone a leg up on the exam. I bow to the collective wisdom, but will no longer participate in this kind of discussion.
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Post by funkyodar on Aug 30, 2015 16:10:00 GMT -5
Lizdarcy, thank you for your kind and helpful response. To the other responders, it is Interesting the posts above my question deal with the WD substantive respone, form and process (not content) but my question of whether there is spell check is deemed by Funk to be disrespectful and by Pixie to be forbidden because it touches on protocol. While I respect Pixies comment on protocol, I find Funk's response not only unhelpful but arrogant. While he claims that this is a friendly community, he deemed it his job to put me in my place by inferring disrespect for asking if there is spell check. My inquiry invited a response that my question was possibly covered by the confidality agreement. A simple acknowledgement that you find the question covered by the agreement would have been sufficient. Please note that I have not yet seen, therefore have not agreed to the terms of the confidentiality agreement and therefore do not know what is or is not covered on it. I am uncertain if others find my question disrespectful. In the future, I will limit my inquiries to finding out the vintage of wine served on Thursdays at the Embassy Suites. So much for a "friendly and helpful community." "Unhelpful" and "arrogant"....? And here I was not even knowing my mother in law was a board member. Let me ask you something, Disenchanted, why take the easy shots? I mean, pretty obvious my post was "unhelpful" to you when it pretty expressly says I think offering you the help you requested is wrong. Here's some help....better bone up on issue recognition. Such astute observations as that my post was "unhelpful" to you may be fun to write, but are a little elementary to be on the WD. And "arrogant"...guilty as charged. I mean, if by "arrogant" you mean I take pride in the fact that I made it thru the opm testing gauntlet and reached my goal. And if you mean that I did so without anyone telling me what to expect in form or function on those tests. If you mean I think this whole process, every little detail of it, is something that one should have to overcome on one's own. And, if you mean I think those that made it thru and got on the register and have waited for their dream to materialize shouldn't be asked for info that will possibly help someone else jump them in line. If you mean all that, then yes, I am arrogant. And, also, I'm a bit arrogant in general. I'm sorry I hurt your widdle feelings. Really I am. But, if you can't take me expressing my opinion on an Internet message board, and you are honestly thinking you may not go forward with the testing because you don't know if there's a spell check....maybe you need your feelings hurt. Maybe the friendliest and most helpful me or this community can be is to hurt your feelings now. Instead of letting opm or years of waiting without a call hurt you much worse later. Again, all my unhelpful and arrogant opinion. |
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Post by funkyodar on Aug 30, 2015 16:57:19 GMT -5
Not my intent to shame anyone Zep. Especially not someone who made it thru to the register. Those of us who have gotten the call are incredibly lucky. Many of my friends here are in the same boat, made the register, made many certs, no call and nothing to do but wait, wonder and hope.
It's out of my sense of solidarity with those folks that I initially responded to Disenchanted's inquiry. It irked me for someone to ask those who they are competing with, who went without such insight, for help that may result in those that gave the help being passed over by the helpee.
And I completely disagree with with LD. This is a timed test, knowing before hand what tools are available to help you complete it, to help you budget your time, is incredibly useful and gives a big leg up.
In reality, but for the fundamental fairness of it, and my self interest to see many of my virtual friends not get hosed, I have no dog in this fight anymore.
I really do wish all going for testing good luck. And all those that are now on the register, I'm certainly in your corner.
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Post by jonsprag1 on Aug 30, 2015 19:36:04 GMT -5
Lizdarcy, thank you for your kind and helpful response. To the other responders, it is Interesting the posts above my question deal with the WD substantive respone, form and process (not content) but my question of whether there is spell check is deemed by Funk to be disrespectful and by Pixie to be forbidden because it touches on protocol. While I respect Pixies comment on protocol, I find Funk's response not only unhelpful but arrogant. While he claims that this is a friendly community, he deemed it his job to put me in my place by inferring disrespect for asking if there is spell check. My inquiry invited a response that my question was possibly covered by the confidality agreement. A simple acknowledgement that you find the question covered by the agreement would have been sufficient. Please note that I have not yet seen, therefore have not agreed to the terms of the confidentiality agreement and therefore do not know what is or is not covered on it. I am uncertain if others find my question disrespectful. In the future, I will limit my inquiries to finding out the vintage of wine served on Thursdays at the Embassy Suites. So much for a "friendly and helpful community." The fact of the matter is we all signed non-disclosure agreements before we took the exam not to disclose anything about the contents or procedures. And I have it on good authority that both SSA and OPM monitor this board occasionally. Furthermore, like it or not, the selection process is competitive and someone going into the process who knows about the procedure has an advantage over those who don't. If the advantage was obtained through one of us having loose lips, it would be unfair to those who played by the rules. Finally, if the thought of possibly not having spell check would actually deter you from taking the exam, maybe the job isn't for you. In any event, good luck on what ever course of action you take. |
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Post by mikeinthehills on Aug 30, 2015 19:47:30 GMT -5
Lizdarcy, thank you for your kind and helpful response. To the other responders, it is Interesting the posts above my question deal with the WD substantive respone, form and process (not content) but my question of whether there is spell check is deemed by Funk to be disrespectful and by Pixie to be forbidden because it touches on protocol. While I respect Pixies comment on protocol, I find Funk's response not only unhelpful but arrogant. While he claims that this is a friendly community, he deemed it his job to put me in my place by inferring disrespect for asking if there is spell check. My inquiry invited a response that my question was possibly covered by the confidality agreement. A simple acknowledgement that you find the question covered by the agreement would have been sufficient. Please note that I have not yet seen, therefore have not agreed to the terms of the confidentiality agreement and therefore do not know what is or is not covered on it. I am uncertain if others find my question disrespectful. In the future, I will limit my inquiries to finding out the vintage of wine served on Thursdays at the Embassy Suites. So much for a "friendly and helpful community." "Unhelpful" and "arrogant"....? And here I was not even knowing my mother in law was a board member. Let me ask you something, Disenchanted, why take the easy shots? I mean, pretty obvious my post was "unhelpful" to you when it pretty expressly says I think offering you the help you requested is wrong. Here's some help....better bone up on issue recognition. Such astute observations as that my post was "unhelpful" to you may be fun to write, but are a little elementary to be on the WD. And "arrogant"...guilty as charged. I mean, if by "arrogant" you mean I take pride in the fact that I made it thru the opm testing gauntlet and reached my goal. And if you mean that I did so without anyone telling me what to expect in form or function on those tests. If you mean I think this whole process, every little detail of it, is something that one should have to overcome on one's own. And, if you mean I think those that made it thru and got on the register and have waited for their dream to materialize shouldn't be asked for info that will possibly help someone else jump them in line. If you mean all that, then yes, I am arrogant. And, also, I'm a bit arrogant in general. I'm sorry I hurt your widdle feelings. Really I am. But, if you can't take me expressing my opinion on an Internet message board, and you are honestly thinking you may not go forward with the testing because you don't know if there's a spell check....maybe you need your feelings hurt. Maybe the friendliest and most helpful me or this community can be is to hurt your feelings now. Instead of letting opm or years of waiting without a call hurt you much worse later. Again, all my unhelpful and arrogant opinion. LOL. Situational bourbon time my friend! It's Sunday evening. Relax. A full week ahead.  |
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Post by privateatty on Aug 31, 2015 6:38:42 GMT -5
Simple question.... Hopefully a response won't violate the confidentiality agreement. There is a lot of discussion about the WD final product. Several of you opined that errors could include spelling and grammar. Is the WD written on a lop top that has Word? Or some other word processing system that will offer spelling choices or underline possible grammar issues like we have in the real world? If not, I probablly should not sit for the test this fall. This is a generational question, in part. The old folks like myself (and I would submit we are well represented in this process) would state that the "real world" for us included an expectation that you could write and spell without a computer aide. If you aren't going to take the WD because you can't spell or write without these tools, then you have deemed yourself unqualified. Let me put it this way: would you hire an ALJ if they confessed that these needed these tools to write coherently? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 7:58:27 GMT -5
Wait a minute.....there was spellcheck on the WD?  ?? *#$@!!! I did not know that. Made it anyway. Thank you, Sister Marie Rose, St. Patrick Elementary School, 2nd grade. |
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Post by 71stretch on Aug 31, 2015 8:02:48 GMT -5
Wait a minute.....there was spellcheck on the WD? ?? *#$@!!! I did not know that. Made it anyway. Thank you, Sister Marie Rose, St. Patrick Elementary School, 2nd grade. We said nothing. Nothing! (thank you, Sgt. Schultz!) |
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Post by privateatty on Aug 31, 2015 8:46:17 GMT -5
Wait a minute.....there was spellcheck on the WD? ?? *#$@!!! I did not know that. Made it anyway. Thank you, Sister Marie Rose, St. Patrick Elementary School, 2nd grade. We said nothing. Nothing! (thank you, Sgt. Schultz!) Sgt. Schultz would have said "Nuzink"! |
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Post by nj4096 on Aug 31, 2015 16:06:42 GMT -5
And yes thank goodness I am not taking the WD on my mobile device. If I were I might as well stay home.
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