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Post by observer100 on Apr 14, 2014 15:56:50 GMT -5
Does anyone know if a person had retired from federal employment, with a higher salary at retirement, than the salary for a new ALJ, whether that person will still have to start at the lowest entry level salary for ALJs? Or, can they resume federal service at the salary level at the time of retirement?
Also, will they get credit for prior years of service, and resume accruing annual leave at the rate they had at the time of retirement?
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Post by funkyodar on Apr 14, 2014 16:00:53 GMT -5
I dunno the answers to your questions. But I think I know your cousin, 47 times removed.
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Post by observer100 on Apr 14, 2014 16:15:59 GMT -5
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Post by crab on Apr 14, 2014 16:17:20 GMT -5
I was slow on the draw on that one but that was one of your more clever remarks brother funks.  Observer100, first check out 5 CFR 930.205(f) and then try the search function on the general board. You'll find a number of discussions regarding entry level pay rates for current and former federal employees. Edit: Also, retired or resigned? I'm not sure how re-entry after retirement works and how that affects leave or entry pay. My info above would be for a resignation. You would receive the same amount of leave as before and your sick balance may well be waiting for you. |
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Post by observer100 on Apr 14, 2014 16:22:02 GMT -5
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Post by 71stretch on Apr 14, 2014 16:23:50 GMT -5
Not a problem. Happens ALL THE TIME.  |
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Post by observer100 on Apr 14, 2014 16:25:03 GMT -5
Thank you. I'll look at it.
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Post by observer100 on Apr 14, 2014 16:32:52 GMT -5
Your cite was helpful. Looks possible to start a little higher than AL-3(A):
(e) Except as provided in paragraph (f) of this section, upon appointment to an administrative law judge position and placement in level AL-3, an administrative law judge is paid at the minimum rate A of AL-3. He or she is automatically advanced successively to rates B, C, and D of that level upon completion of 52 weeks of service in the next lower rate, and to rates E and F of that level upon completion of 104 weeks of service in the next lower rate. . . .
(f) Upon appointment to a position at AL-3, an administrative law judge may be paid at the minimum rate A, unless the administrative law judge is eligible for the higher rate B, C, D, E, or F because of prior service or superior qualifications, as provided in paragraphs (f)(1) and (f)(2) of this section.
(1) An agency may offer an administrative law judge applicant with prior Federal service a higher than minimum rate up to the lowest rate of basic pay that equals or exceeds the applicant's highest previous Federal rate of basic pay, not to exceed the maximum rate F.
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Post by luckylady2 on Apr 14, 2014 17:52:54 GMT -5
Yes, just be aware of the "may." Totally discretionary to pay above the entry grade.
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Post by minny on Apr 14, 2014 22:49:20 GMT -5
Actually, I think most agencies have pretty set pay policies that the average hiring official does not have much say in. The agency's employment/recruitment group most likely controls this issue.
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Post by moopigsdad on Apr 15, 2014 3:28:25 GMT -5
Your cite was helpful. Looks possible to start a little higher than AL-3(A): (e) Except as provided in paragraph (f) of this section, upon appointment to an administrative law judge position and placement in level AL-3, an administrative law judge is paid at the minimum rate A of AL-3. He or she is automatically advanced successively to rates B, C, and D of that level upon completion of 52 weeks of service in the next lower rate, and to rates E and F of that level upon completion of 104 weeks of service in the next lower rate. . . . (f) Upon appointment to a position at AL-3, an administrative law judge may be paid at the minimum rate A, unless the administrative law judge is eligible for the higher rate B, C, D, E, or F because of prior service or superior qualifications, as provided in paragraphs (f)(1) and (f)(2) of this section. (1) An agency may offer an administrative law judge applicant with prior Federal service a higher than minimum rate up to the lowest rate of basic pay that equals or exceeds the applicant's highest previous Federal rate of basic pay, not to exceed the maximum rate F.
Technically you are correct, but it is likely you will be offered a position at the given pay rate and either you can accept it or decline it. If you wish not to accept the cut in pay if offered the position, do not accept it. However, when offered a position it never hurts to ask, but don't be surprised if the answer is no. |
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