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Post by privateatty on May 6, 2014 16:23:07 GMT -5
I'm an ALJ but not an insider of ODAR. To you two ladies whom are expecting: Double Congratulations!
I will echo with gusto those sentiments expressed here: go for it!
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Post by funkyodar on May 6, 2014 18:09:00 GMT -5
If we all make it to FC together, that third person that looks pregnant...but has a beard...thats me.
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Post by Missundaztood on May 6, 2014 19:37:52 GMT -5
Is there a Board baby boom? Congrats to both ferdinand and mch135! There's got to be an online store somewhere that sells Mommy and Baby matching black robes... Maternity robes are very flattering to the pregnant figure. Sort of like black muumuus. Has to be better than maternity BDUs. Those are like big camouflage tents! And just logically stupid! They aren't sending a pregnant service member anywhere that requires camo. But otherwise, I venture to say that it is probably better to be pregnant and give birth while in the federal government (with some particular exceptions for active duty military...) than the vast majority of other jobs. Congrats and good luck!
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Post by luckylady2 on May 6, 2014 21:15:36 GMT -5
I understand the spirit of lucklady2's advice, but keep in mind that in this screwy process, if you turn down an offer, you will never be considered for that location again (only for the life of the Register, I hope). If there is a real reason (need to be close to family, medical care, etc) to strike a location, do it. But if you're just worried about the leave situation, don't shut down the dream. Things can be worked out. Babies R Us does mail-order, even to East Crapland. Too true!! I just meant don't take yourself out of consideration and don't decide for them that they don't want you. But the entangled voodoo of this process absolutely MUST be respected!
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Post by Missundaztood on May 6, 2014 21:52:14 GMT -5
If we all make it to FC together, that third person that looks pregnant...but has a beard...thats me. Three pregnant bearded ladies? I thought there were only two slots open in Puerto Rico? I have to admit, that made me LOL. But I just can't make myself "like" the comment. Just too wrong. When are we getting a thumbs down? I need a thumbs down for anything pessimistic at this point.
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Post by gary on May 6, 2014 22:31:51 GMT -5
Three pregnant bearded ladies? I thought there were only two slots open in Puerto Rico? I have to admit, that made me LOL. But I just can't make myself "like" the comment. Just too wrong. When are we getting a thumbs down? I need a thumbs down for anything pessimistic at this point. I say thumbs down to the thumbs down. My feelings would get hurt. Often.
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Post by Missundaztood on May 6, 2014 22:54:36 GMT -5
I have to admit, that made me LOL. But I just can't make myself "like" the comment. Just too wrong. When are we getting a thumbs down? I need a thumbs down for anything pessimistic at this point. I say thumbs down to the thumbs down. My feelings would get hurt. Often. Got it. I'll continue to scowl at my computer screen...
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Post by bartleby on May 7, 2014 6:59:49 GMT -5
Here ya go, Maternity leave: Leave for Maternity, Paternity and Adoption Reasons Absence for maternity reasons must be treated the same as any other medically certified temporary disability. Employees may request annual leave, sick leave or leave without pay to cover the absence; however, sick leave may be granted only to cover the time the employee is actually incapacitated, as determined by her physician, and for doctor's visits. Annual leave and leave without pay may be granted to an employee who intends to return to work to allow time off to care for the baby and make child care arrangements. The employee must submit an SSA-71 for each type of leave requested. Leave may be in any order the employee requests, so long as sick leave is used only for the period of incapacitation and the schedule is not manipulated by mixing paid leave between periods of LWOP as a device to get paid for holidays. A male employee may be granted accrued annual leave or leave without pay to assist and care for the mother of his child or to care for his minor children during the mother's incapacitation. Absence for paternity reasons may be charged to sick leave if requested for the period of incapacitation of the mother and if the employee uses time available under the Family Friendly Leave Act. Requests for advance annual leave may be considered on a case-by-case basis and should be referred to the proper leave approving official. The process prospective parents go through to adopt a child is often long and difficult. Prospective parents may be asked to make a commitment that one parent stay home with an adopted child for the initial months. Unlimited use of sick leave for adoption is now available for this purpose in addition to a combination of annual leave and leave without pay. The Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 provides for guaranteed approved time off of up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave for both the birth or adoption of a child within 1 year of the birth or placement. Information related to maternity, paternity and adoption may be found in Chapter S630-5 of the Personnel Policy Manual and Article 31 of the 2012 SSA/AFGE National Agreement. Employees having questions about this information should consult with their supervisor.
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Post by papresqr on May 7, 2014 11:22:16 GMT -5
That's interesting. So you can use unlimited sick leave to stay home and take care of an adopted child, but not for a child you delivered? Something about that just seems so wrong.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using proboards
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Post by ladywordsmith on May 7, 2014 11:59:57 GMT -5
That's interesting. So you can use unlimited sick leave to stay home and take care of an adopted child, but not for a child you delivered? Something about that just seems so wrong. Sent from my SCH-I535 using proboards Since I have an adopted child, PM me and I'll explain WHY that's not wrong. When we were going through the adoption process, I came to think of it as, "Going through a mortgage process that included a full physical with a 6 month probationary period". LW
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Post by hopefalj on May 7, 2014 12:23:33 GMT -5
That's interesting. So you can use unlimited sick leave to stay home and take care of an adopted child, but not for a child you delivered? Something about that just seems so wrong. Sent from my SCH-I535 using proboards If you birth a child and your doctor tells you that you need to have one parent stay home with that child due to a health-related issue, you can use unlimited sick leave for that. Sick leave for an adoption is only unlimited if it is a condition of the adoption, which presumably is to ensure the well being of the child.
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