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Post by hopefalj on May 7, 2014 18:04:55 GMT -5
No, you haven't. I believe privateatty and bartleby can tell your horror stories about appointees that went through training (or at least reported to their duty stations) only to have the rug yanked out from under them because they couldn't pass the background check.
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Post by futuressaalj on May 7, 2014 18:07:10 GMT -5
You report to work and fill out some forms and list references for that process. Its not as intense as a Secret/Top Secret Clearance. I understand they do criminal check, credit check and send questionaires to three people. They may also do some other database checks.
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Post by privateatty on May 7, 2014 18:54:30 GMT -5
You report to work and fill out some forms and list references for that process. Its not as intense as a Secret/Top Secret Clearance. I understand they do criminal check, credit check and send questionaires to three people. They may also do some other database checks. That is not what happened to me and other folks I talked to. My neighbors were questioned. I had a long interview with a CID retired type who was hired by OPM. I got asked some very personal questions. You would be surprised at how many lie, fabricate, hide, have engaged in some behavior in view, etc. with the neighbors or even just forgot. That having been said from what I remember insiders were not held to the same level of scutiny so you, as a government employee, may get the circumscribed look that you speak to. And ODAR may do things differently.
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Post by bartleby on May 7, 2014 19:01:24 GMT -5
Privateatty, mine was essentially the same as yours. They were interested in ex-wives, and very interested about any trips across the southern or northern border. I had close to 15 years with the Government prior to that.
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Post by privateatty on May 7, 2014 19:27:31 GMT -5
Privateatty, mine was essentially the same as yours. They were interested in ex-wives, and very interested about any trips across the southern or northern border. I had close to 15 years with the Government prior to that. Thank you. I was wondering if it was my loopy smile. Yes, they wanted to hear about all my passport stamps, any ex-wife and all the reasons thereunder.
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Post by luckylady2 on May 7, 2014 22:38:10 GMT -5
Yep, there's a separate form and process for the security clearance - at any level - and it comes after you accept a position.
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Post by futuressaalj on May 8, 2014 4:20:15 GMT -5
Privateatty, mine was essentially the same as yours. They were interested in ex-wives, and very interested about any trips across the southern or northern border. I had close to 15 years with the Government prior to that. Thank you. I was wondering if it was my loopy smile. Yes, they wanted to hear about all my passport stamps, any ex-wife and all the reasons thereunder. Wow you underwent a similar background check for Top Secret/Special Compartmentalized Information screening.
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Post by agilitymom on May 8, 2014 5:04:41 GMT -5
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Post by decadealj on May 8, 2014 12:24:21 GMT -5
With all the botched clearances lately, it wouldn't surprise me if OPM went back to the SCI (compartmentalized TS) that I went through three times, the last time as an ALJ. The interview and neighbor canvass was done by a retired FBI agent who knew me from prosecuting cases in federal court- and he still didn't cut me any slack. That being said, I also know of folks appointed as ALJs who couldn't pass a smell test yet alone an SCI background check.
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Post by cougarfan on May 8, 2014 20:01:10 GMT -5
My background/security investigation was completed at approximately 20 months after I reported for duty. But that was only after they told me I needed to complete the forms again and get another set of fingerprints done because they couldn't find the set I submitted when I was first scheduled for my interview.
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Post by Missundaztood on May 8, 2014 22:04:51 GMT -5
My background/security investigation was completed at approximately 20 months after I reported for duty. But that was only after they told me I needed to complete the forms again and get another set of fingerprints done because they couldn't find the set I submitted when I was first scheduled for my interview. My forms were lost twice!
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Post by rlahiff on May 9, 2014 4:39:11 GMT -5
Not on this register. Before I go thru this process would like any insight available. If I went thru this process and offered a job, is a DUI 30 years ago gonna knock me out?
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Post by saaao on May 9, 2014 5:06:46 GMT -5
Not on this register. Before I go thru this process would like any insight available. If I went thru this process and offered a job, is a DUI 30 years ago gonna knock me out? Security clearances typically are concerned with bad behavior within a seven to fifteen year time frame, depending on the level. As a rule of thumb if your behavior would not prevent you from sitting for a Bar exam it should not prevent you from being cleared for ALJ. A DUI thirty years ago should not kill you. But be honest and up front about it. The only sin that is unforgivable as far as clearance checks are concerned is dishonesty.
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Post by southerner on May 9, 2014 7:55:48 GMT -5
The process takes time as do all background checks. Some in my class had investigations transpiring during the intial month of training simply due to overwhelming numbers and backlog. That said, it was not nearly as intense as prior to my appointment as an Assistant United States Attorney many years ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 8:03:50 GMT -5
During a security clearance they asked me why I got divorced and I said --none of your business. Then I found out they asked my boss who was even more offended by the question. I think my boss called the investigator's boss and said he was total inappropriate.
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Post by chessparent on May 9, 2014 8:10:14 GMT -5
Good for you, linky!
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Post by BagLady on May 9, 2014 8:51:51 GMT -5
Why did I get divorced? Because I no longer wished to be married.
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Post by Ace Midnight on May 9, 2014 9:03:45 GMT -5
I just got through my TS/SCI a couple of years back, and it is still active. Hopefully they just piggyback on that, and update since that investigation was completed.
That would be the easiest, most efficient way to do it.
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Post by Gaidin on May 9, 2014 9:08:22 GMT -5
I just got through my TS/SCI a couple of years back, and it is still active. Hopefully they just piggyback on that, and update since that investigation was completed. That would be the easiest, most efficient way to do it. So you're saying they will start from scratch?
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Post by Ace Midnight on May 9, 2014 9:16:13 GMT -5
Gaidin, the contractor cat who performed my interview (ironically, contracted by OPM), said the words, "Just give them the date this investigation was completed next time - for any investigation."
Why he would have said that if it has no effect is beyond me. However, that is exactly what I will do. I can't imagine a TS/SCI would be insufficient to hold this position...
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