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Post by cubbietax on Jun 19, 2014 10:24:05 GMT -5
Since news is slow here, let me add a bit of data that may be something, but is likely nothing. I maintain a LinkedIn page. Under people who have viewed my profile, I get a notice that a "Lawyer / Judge in the Law Practice" viewed my profile. I do not have a premium account so I can not see who it is or get any information on the person. Now, this could be a totally random occurrence. I generally get one person looking at my page a week. However, with the word "Judge" in the title, it makes me wonder if someone involved in the hiring process is doing research.
I doubt it is anything, but it might be something.
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Post by sealaw90 on Jun 19, 2014 11:33:35 GMT -5
Hmmm, an ALJ cannot search the internet on a claimant, but may feel free to search for an ALJ candidate - very interesting. Unless it really is nothing, but that would boring to continue any speculatation on the meaning...
Thanks, I'll go look at my Linked In profile and make sure it is up to date. Heck, something to do while I wait to hear from all the first certers on offers, and then wait for the second cert.
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Post by robespierre on Jun 19, 2014 11:40:27 GMT -5
I don't think it's a coincidence. Sounds like they're background-checking you. But presumably they background-check every interviewee, so I don't think we can speculate that you're about to get an offer. I hope you do, though ... good luck!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 11:55:09 GMT -5
Since news is slow here, let me add a bit of data that may be something, but is likely nothing. I maintain a LinkedIn page. Under people who have viewed my profile, I get a notice that a "Lawyer / Judge in the Law Practice" viewed my profile. I do not have a premium account so I can not see who it is or get any information on the person. Now, this could be a totally random occurrence. I generally get one person looking at my page a week. However, with the word "Judge" in the title, it makes me wonder if someone involved in the hiring process is doing research. I doubt it is anything, but it might be something. FWIW, no similar inquiry has been made on my LinkedIn page.
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Post by tinkerbell on Jun 19, 2014 12:00:02 GMT -5
Two weeks ago, I had an "administrative employee from KeyPoint Government Solutions" visit my page.
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Post by redsox1 on Jun 19, 2014 12:38:22 GMT -5
I also had a vist from Keypoint 4 weeks ago.
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Post by Gaidin on Jun 19, 2014 13:02:35 GMT -5
Cabbie are you up for the OMHA job as well as SSA?
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Post by WhereIsTheFrontDoor on Jun 19, 2014 13:05:21 GMT -5
At least they didn't start following you on Facebook or Twitter!
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Post by cubbietax on Jun 19, 2014 13:07:01 GMT -5
Cabbie are you up for the OMHA job as well as SSA? No. GAL way too narrow for an OMHA cert.
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Post by cubbietax on Jun 19, 2014 13:08:22 GMT -5
At least they didn't start following you on Facebook or Twitter! I am old school, no facebook or twitter. LinkedIn and ALJ Forum are enough social networking for me.
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Post by redryder on Jun 19, 2014 15:14:42 GMT -5
I don't mean to stir any paranoia, but what makes you think the checkers don't look at your Facebook or Twitter info? An ALJ cannot look at these in connection with a disabilit proceeding. There is nothing that I know of that prevents the checkers (who are not ALJs) from doing this.
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Post by tinkerbell on Jun 19, 2014 15:36:20 GMT -5
I don't mean to stir any paranoia, but what makes you think the checkers don't look at your Facebook or Twitter info? An ALJ cannot look at these in connection with a disabilit proceeding. There is nothing that I know of that prevents the checkers (who are not ALJs) from doing this. I would guess that they probably looked at fb and/or twitter accounts, if you have one. LinkedIn tells you who has viewed your profile, so users are able to determine that it has been checked.
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Post by WhereIsTheFrontDoor on Jun 19, 2014 15:43:44 GMT -5
I assume they did check my social media accounts. My comment has more to do with a situation where I applied for a job and the person I submitted my application to started following me on social media. I did not hear anything from the application, but that person is still following me. Kinda awkward.
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Post by tinkerbell on Jun 19, 2014 15:53:35 GMT -5
Two weeks ago, I had an "administrative employee from KeyPoint Government Solutions" visit my page. I, too, had a visit from said administrative employee. Good catch. My Linkedin is fairly benign, but I've spent the last 10 minutes looking at the stupid stuff I've put on facebook. At least my daughters are pretty. I should be able to get 1/2 credit for that. All of my accounts (except LinkedIn) are private and/or not searchable. I haven't really tested it, but I'm not very active on the social media sites.
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Post by privateatty on Jun 19, 2014 16:07:32 GMT -5
As has been stated much earlier in these pages and confirmed by at least bartleby, OPM does an exhaustive interview of you and your neighbors AFTER you are hired. It has to be a budgetary matter insofar as they have to pay the investigator (mine was former Army CID) some $ to do the job. And, more than a few who thought they had the job because they got hired found out that that incident in their past DID get unearthed. Now, I may be not entirely accurate as to everyone as I think I recall some government attorneys had been vetted in the past and did not have this level of scrutiny.
So my point is that when folks polk their noses into your business that's a good thing--as long as you have nothing to hide.
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Post by BagLady on Jun 19, 2014 20:14:40 GMT -5
I only have active LinkedIn and Twitter accounts. My LinkedIn was visited by someone at KeyPoint Government Solutions . . . I am oh-so-glad to be flying low on the "social network radar."
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 20, 2014 7:24:29 GMT -5
I also had a vist from Keypoint 4 weeks ago. I'm fairly certain Keypoint did the reference checks. For the full-bore background investigation for employment, OPM uses contractors that will do a thorough background check, with fingerprints. If you're already employed by the government as an attorney (or have a military security clearance) - they will probably just update what they did last time. For you outsiders, though, it will be a new experience as you will have people you haven't talked to in years say, "What's going on? The feds came and talked to me all about you?"
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Post by witty on Jun 20, 2014 7:25:14 GMT -5
As has been stated much earlier in these pages and confirmed by at least bartleby, OPM does an exhaustive interview of you and your neighbors AFTER you are hired. It has to be a budgetary matter insofar as they have to pay the investigator (mine was former Army CID) some $ to do the job. And, more than a few who thought they had the job because they got hired found out that that incident in their past DID get unearthed. Now, I may be not entirely accurate as to everyone as I think I recall some government attorneys had been vetted in the past and did not have this level of scrutiny. So my point is that when folks polk their noses into your business that's a good thing--as long as you have nothing to hide. What type of "incident" can result in a prospective alj candidate being dismissed? Is there a rule book of transgressions or a pertinent cfr? Can a candidate challenge what someone said he did? Is this a subjective and discretionary call and by whom? I am not so much concerned, but I am curious. Does anyone know of any particular type of incident in a candidate's past that resulted in that candidate being dismissed? Thank you.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 20, 2014 7:38:22 GMT -5
If you have a story that begins with, "Yeah, I've done a little time."
or includes any of the following statements:
"She looked older."
"I dont know how that got on my computer."
"I didnt believe in 'taxes' back then."
"It must just grow naturally in my back yard."
"I learned her not to talk back."
or ends with...."Thank God nobody knows about that!"
Then you should probably be concerned.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 20, 2014 7:51:03 GMT -5
What type of "incident" can result in a prospective alj candidate being dismissed? Is there a rule book of transgressions or a pertinent cfr? Can a candidate challenge what someone said he did? Is this a subjective and discretionary call and by whom? I am not so much concerned, but I am curious. Does anyone know of any particular type of incident in a candidate's past that resulted in that candidate being dismissed? Thank you. There is a certain subjective/discretionary aspect to it - there has to be a conclusion you do not have significant character flaws making you unsuitable for the position and that you don't have skeletons in the closet that would make you susceptible to outside influence or corruption. So, they check credit history - and they will ask you about less than perfect credit situations - defaults on debt, pattern of deliquency, overleveraged, Chapter 7/13 proceedings, bad business debts, etc. They also check for criminal and civil proceedings. Obviously violent felonies are going to be a red flag, but if you've been cited for speeding, littering, etc., you're probably okay (unless there is a pattern) - if you've been sued for fiduciary responsibility stuff, punished by the bar, etc., all of those kinds of things will draw extra scrutiny. But, it will be a relatively rare situation where someone makes it through this particular process and not meet the minimum qualifications on the background check - I'm sure it happens, but there's little you can do about it - as it is largely retrospective. I wouldn't recommend getting into a bar fight or knocking over a bank between now and the completion of the background check.
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