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Post by GeauxTiger's SO on Jul 14, 2014 17:17:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 17:20:30 GMT -5
I can confirm that GeauxTiger received a call today was offered and accepted a position in Fresno. Congratulations!! Did you have a OMHA offer also? Vet? Tell us more!
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Post by GeauxTiger's SO on Jul 14, 2014 17:26:53 GMT -5
I can confirm that GeauxTiger received a call today was offered and accepted a position in Fresno. Congratulations!! Did you have a OMHA offer also? Vet? Tell us more! GeauxTiger had fingerprints requested and submitted to OMHA but no follow up as of today. I don't have much info, GeauxTiger is hiking and we've only spoken for a few moments. Supposed to report by the 25th of August. Not a vet. Just wanted to let you all know.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 17:28:17 GMT -5
Thanks, any news is good news at this SLOW PACE!!!
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Post by 71stretch on Jul 14, 2014 17:40:09 GMT -5
Two for Fresno. Still dancing with OMHA. Interesting.
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Post by futuressaalj on Jul 14, 2014 17:48:50 GMT -5
Two for Fresno. Still dancing with OMHA. Interesting. It seems as if OMHA is getting scooped because they do not appear to be moving fast enough. Shrek was another OMHA candidate who had fingerprints processing but was in limbo. SSA on the other hand calls with job offers.
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Post by gary on Jul 14, 2014 17:54:26 GMT -5
I can confirm that GeauxTiger received a call today was offered and accepted a position in Fresno. Congrats!
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Post by moopigsdad on Jul 14, 2014 17:54:47 GMT -5
Congratulations to geauxtiger and the spouse or SO who filled in the Board with the information. Best of luck!
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Post by funkyodar on Jul 14, 2014 17:56:26 GMT -5
Hm. Lsu fan in USC land....have fun.
Good luck and congrats.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 18:13:22 GMT -5
Hm. Lsu fan in USC land....have fun. Good luck and congrats. Funky, check your PMs when you get a chance!
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Post by ALJD on Jul 14, 2014 19:32:07 GMT -5
I was on vacation for a few days, so I didn't see this interesting PM from 7/11 until today. It was PM'ed to me from a new poster account, but enough of the pieces click that I figured I'll pass it on to the board members:
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Hello -- I am a lurker and probably will remain one. I prefer to remain entirely anonymous, but am troubled by all of the angst and speculation registered by board posters. Perhaps some of what I've learned recently at the conclusion of this journey will help shed light on this obtuse process and lessen the anxiety -- or perhaps not. Please feel free to post/summarize what you think is helpful to those agonizing.
I am a non-vet outsider with a 85+ score. I received a "tentative" offer from OMHA on July 3 for one of 10 openings (3 in Cleveland and 7 in KC). OMHA surmised (but did not seem to know) that I was in the hunt for ODAR as well and acknowledged it lacked the geographical diversity/preferences ODAR offered. Offer remained open until OPM issued formal offer--which never came. There appeared to be no collaboration between the agencies.
On July 9, I received a call from ODAR @ 11:45ish ET for a position in a midwest city that was my #4 choice. It appears that the Morgantown offer was issued and accepted shortly before ODAR called me. I was given 48 hrs to decide. From Board postings, there appeared to be no further offers (at least to Board posters) after that. Board postings indicate that my #1 choice was also the #1 choice of a vet with a lower score than mine. That vet will probably get that city (and good for him). No one on the Board listed the City I was offered as their #1 choice. I accepted in 24 hrs and immediately informed OMHA. Again, OMHA appeared to have no information of what I had been offered by ODAR and seemed frustrated that geographical preferences limited its ability to attract those it wanted to hire. Shortly after I informed OMHA of my decision, Board posters indicated renewed interest by OMHA in their candidacy.
My takeaways:
1. ODAR and OMHA are operating independently to make their decisions. 2. Offers seem to be issued according to score not geography. 3. A request to think about the offer could shut down the process for 48 hrs at most. 4. While honoring City preferences to the extent possible, a lower scorer with a small GAL will bump a higher scorer with a wider GAL in order to hire as many good scorers as possible. 5. It appears that ODAR is attempting to hire the top 90 scorers (assuming good interview and recs) and honor city preferences as best they can without a lot of plotting and scheming.
My apologies for slowing down the process, but hope this information atones for that and provides a bit of clarity for those still waiting. Best of luck to all for a positive resolution now or next time.
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[Back to ALJD] I have no opinion as to whether the analysis above is correct, but I figured it's well reasoned enough to share for the Board's consumption.
Good luck to all!
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Post by Highlander on Jul 14, 2014 19:47:06 GMT -5
Although I read it several times, I am not sure I understand point #4 above...
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Post by ok1956 on Jul 14, 2014 19:54:25 GMT -5
Although I read it several times, I am not sure I understand point #4 above... I read it to say that because the person with the wider gal can be put more places, if they want both the #1 and #2 or 3, then the lower scoring person might be selected over #1 because #1 can go any where (or many places)....
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Post by gary on Jul 14, 2014 20:05:46 GMT -5
Although I read it several times, I am not sure I understand point #4 above... Let's say there's a candidate with the highest score for City A, with a wide open GAL, whose top preference is City A. The second highest score for City A, which of course is lower than the top candidate's score, is only on City A for this set of certs. If that lower score is nonetheless higher than the second best score in City B, then the high score/wide open GAL candidate will be offered City B and the second candidate, with the lower score, will get City A, so that SSA gets the highest scores it can for the group of hires as a whole. At least that's what I think it means.
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Post by linky on Jul 14, 2014 20:07:08 GMT -5
I think the approach is very logical. Fill as many spots as possible with the top talent. I feel like an American Idol contestant.
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Post by bartleby on Jul 14, 2014 20:08:40 GMT -5
So order of preference means nothing for high scorers that had a large GAL? Interesting and frustrating, but not unforeseen for this Agency.
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Post by Highlander on Jul 14, 2014 20:12:40 GMT -5
It seems like if they are trying to hire the highest 90 scorers and honor city preferences as much as possible then a higher scorer with a narrow GAL would, as a general proposition, be in a better position than a lower scorer with a wider GAL-not the other way. Not questioning original poster, and very much appreciate the information.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jul 14, 2014 20:27:47 GMT -5
As to ALJD's post of the anonymous poster, it is possible the assumption on number 4 is wrong. Perhaps, the poster's score was lower than the score for Morgantown and his other higher preferences are not going to have open ALJ spots because of recent transfers to those offices by sitting ALJs. Then again, the assumption could be correct, however, if SSA is hiring by high scores to low scores as the poster suggested, then the higher scoring wide open GAL score would be hired prior to the lower scoring narrow GAL person. Besides, under OPM rules, SSA can't bypass a higher score to get to a lower score unless unless they have reason to strike that person for the position. Just my opinion on the anonymous poster post by ALJD.
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Post by gary on Jul 14, 2014 20:33:41 GMT -5
Unless there's vet preference involved, SSA could take the second or third highest scorer for City A and leave the highest scorer for City B. Or SSA could decide to hire the highest scorer for City B first, and so have him/her off the board before hiring for City B.
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Post by BagLady on Jul 14, 2014 21:38:14 GMT -5
I don't need 48 hours to decide, I need .48 seconds.
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