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Post by Who Me? on Nov 4, 2014 22:13:45 GMT -5
Tiger:
"if you have the time..." Right on. Wish we all the the time to search. But, with trying to get all of the paperwork completed, searching for old or replacement supervisors, contacting potential judge, adversary, and professional references, there aren't that many hours in a day. Also, today was election day, and if your state was closed for the holiday and you worked for state/local government agencies, you were SOL.
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Post by Who Me? on Nov 4, 2014 22:16:03 GMT -5
I agree that ODAR is the best place to start. And we all do what is best for our own needs and it's a real possibility. I'm just saying that you should go into accepting ODAR as your first, last and only agency and you can not be disappointed with your decision. No disagreement there. I only mentioned other agencies as a means to get to a different location, if that is your objective, or area of expertise.
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Post by luckylady2 on Nov 4, 2014 23:17:43 GMT -5
I know your time is limited Who, but you do seem to have time to post the question, so what you might consider is, before posting, type the question into the search box at the top of the page and see if any threads come up. Yes, it may produce much more than the coloring-book-quick-and-dirty answer, but that's because some of these aspects have a fair amount to them. It really is worth it to read what's already been posted on the board before asking a question.
That said, all of us have, from time to time, asked a question that was already on the board - we just don't try to make a habit of it.
Welcome to the board - congrats on making the latest round of certs and best of luck in the next steps of the process!
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Post by Who Me? on Nov 4, 2014 23:34:07 GMT -5
Thanks, Lucklady2. Depends on how the question is phrased. So, if you don't hit the right phrase, the answers might be all over the board or not at all relative to the question.
Since all of the new appointees are assigned a mentor, shouldn't we act as mentors for the new folks? I had new persons who had no prior state ALJ judicial experience. I was more than glad to help these folks, as I would be anyone asking questions on the board.
If you want the job, shouldn't your be concerned whether you might be a new ALJ mentor to a new ALJ? If not, why application? Wow, l'm Sorry if this seemed out of line; but isn't that what's all about the job? orders.
Sorry, but being a mentor for several folks, I didn't dwell on what they may or may not have learned before assuming their new duties. Part of my responsibilities was to guide them in the right direction and apprise them of the earlier significant court decisions and procedures so they could effectively render decisions. I also reviewed their FOFs, COLs, and decisions to make cogent and legally sound orders. If that meant we need to search prior posts, then I can't see why I should help, you or newer, posters.
Is that what all all aboard the board about?
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Post by Gaidin on Nov 5, 2014 10:46:09 GMT -5
Thanks, Lucklady2. Depends on how the question is phrased. So, if you don't hit the right phrase, the answers might be all over the board or not at all relative to the question. Since all of the new appointees are assigned a mentor, shouldn't we act as mentors for the new folks? I had new persons who had no prior state ALJ judicial experience. I was more than glad to help these folks, as I would be anyone asking questions on the board. If you want the job, shouldn't your be concerned whether you might be a new ALJ mentor to a new ALJ? If not, why application? Wow, l'm Sorry if this seemed out of line; but isn't that what's all about the job? orders. Sorry, but being a mentor for several folks, I didn't dwell on what they may or may not have learned before assuming their new duties. Part of my responsibilities was to guide them in the right direction and apprise them of the earlier significant court decisions and procedures so they could effectively render decisions. I also reviewed their FOFs, COLs, and decisions to make cogent and legally sound orders. If that meant we need to search prior posts, then I can't see why I should help, you or newer, posters. Is that what all all aboard the board about? I have been mentored by many people here on the Board and I can say honestly that without some of the support from folks like Funky and Sratty I wouldn't have made it to this point in the process. However, some of these topics: transfer list, 3 striking, rule of 3, etc. have more than a quick answer. I wish the search function on the board were better but it is there. Additionally, there is the FAQ at the top and links contained therein. Believe me I know exactly how much work is going into the process of getting these forms turned in. Perhaps what we are saying as mentors is that you need to be prepared to do some due diligence.
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Post by jetcdr on Nov 5, 2014 11:32:17 GMT -5
Due to changed circumstances between original application date and now, I am not enthusiastic about accepting an offer of employment to the one city for which I was invited to interview on this cert. I have several (less than 10) other cities on my GAL but none of them were listed in the email I received Monday. I'm thinking that the best course of action is to decline this invitation to interview for this one city, and avoid either getting not selected or having to turn down an offer. I don't see any strategic advantage to going forward on this one city that I am likely to decline even if offered. Agreed?
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Post by gary on Nov 5, 2014 11:38:52 GMT -5
If you will decline the job for that city if offered, I think your best course is to decline the city now rather than getting an offer and declining that.
The only possible downside I see is that if your circumstances change later and you would then be willing to accept an offer for that city you will not be able to reinstate the city until the register is open again.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Nov 5, 2014 11:39:33 GMT -5
Due to changed circumstances between original application date and now, I am not enthusiastic about accepting an offer of employment to the one city for which I was invited to interview on this cert. I have several (less than 10) other cities on my GAL but none of them were listed in the email I received Monday. I'm thinking that the best course of action is to decline this invitation to interview for this one city, and avoid either getting not selected or having to turn down an offer. I don't see any strategic advantage to going forward on this one city that I am likely to decline even if offered. Agreed? If you decline the interview for this one city, this city is gone. You cannot add it back unless there is a refresh and that is not likely to happen for years. Choose wisely. Now, with that said, if you think you would decline the offer if so given, then you may be better off striking the city. Word is that if you keep the city, get an offer for it, and then decline.... you are on Santa's bad list so to speak. Not good.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Nov 5, 2014 11:40:22 GMT -5
If you will decline the job for that city if offered, I think your best course is to decline the city now rather than getting an offer and declining that. The only possible downside I see is that if your circumstances change later and you would then be willing to accept an offer for that city you will not be able to reinstate the city until the register is open again. Exactly. We posted about the same time, pretty much the same thing.
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Post by orchid on Nov 6, 2014 19:19:37 GMT -5
Anyone have any idea how many vacancies (if more than one) are in each of the second cert cities?
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Post by Missundaztood on Nov 6, 2014 21:22:32 GMT -5
Anyone have any idea how many vacancies (if more than one) are in each of the second cert cities? Sure wish I knew which cities were in play first, let alone how many vacancies...But we will know eventually the cities. And as we learned from the first certs, it doesn't matter how many vacancies SSA told Opm, doesn't mean they are going to get filled!!!
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