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Post by Gaidin on Dec 1, 2014 9:56:44 GMT -5
Black Magic spells for calling Bob only $1.00. or Bump if you want a less humorous approach.
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Post by ok1956 on Dec 1, 2014 10:26:23 GMT -5
Apparently it's too late to call. Bob is out until 12/9. Called main number as instructed and was told they know nothing and was given yet anther number to call. Have called and left message.
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Post by orchid on Dec 1, 2014 10:43:32 GMT -5
Is it possible Bob is working with the hiring committee through the 9th? Just spitballing. Or he is taking leave because he will have a busy end of the month?
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 1, 2014 10:50:26 GMT -5
Is it possible Bob is working with the hiring committee through the 9th? Just spitballing. Or he is taking leave because he will have a busy end of the month? I think Bob has time to burn prior to the end of the year and is using it or he will lose it. I know I would if I was in his shoes, but believe me I wouldn't want to ever be in his shoes doing his job. Bob does the most admirable job in his work tasks using the greatest and kindest disposition ever. [Maybe I just earned a few "brownie points" for my nice words. Nah! ]
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Post by Gaidin on Dec 1, 2014 10:55:56 GMT -5
It is my recollection from a thread in the 1st cert that Bob doesn't work with the hiring committee. They make decisions and he gets to notify people that they are indeed winners in the lottery. This strikes me as Bob having use or lose leave and needing to be back in the office to make phone calls.
Man I hope so.
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 1, 2014 11:02:58 GMT -5
Yes, but it also coincides with the committee not meeting until next week at the earliest. The only issue is there are still approximately more than 10 people who have yet to have their interview scheduled. How that affects when the hiring committee meets I cannot say? I just hope everyone has their fair shot at a position.
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Post by Gaidin on Dec 1, 2014 11:18:32 GMT -5
I believe those people all have narrow GALs on this cert for a relatively small cluster of cities on the list and those cities simply will not get hired this time. Instead they will interview them in early January and use those cities to fill in the 2nd class.
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Post by ok1956 on Dec 1, 2014 11:39:12 GMT -5
I believe those people all have narrow GALs on this cert for a relatively small cluster of cities on the list and those cities simply will not get hired this time. Instead they will interview them in early January and use those cities to fill in the 2nd class. That's exactly right. I just (finally) reached a live person (thank you MPD for the info!) and she confirmed that my city is not on the list for hiring with this round but will be on the next round after the holidays. I would guess that's the situation for the others in the "I haven't heard anything eek!" group.
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Post by FlaTreeFarm on Dec 1, 2014 11:45:44 GMT -5
I believe those people all have narrow GALs on this cert for a relatively small cluster of cities on the list and those cities simply will not get hired this time. Instead they will interview them in early January and use those cities to fill in the 2nd class. That's exactly right. I just (finally) reached a live person (thank you MPD for the info!) and she confirmed that my city is not on the list for hiring with this round but will be on the next round after the holidays. I would guess that's the situation for the others in the "I haven't heard anything eek!" group. OK, Thanks for sharing this info. I had begun to suspect Gaidin's theory was the reason, but others seemed to think not because it reduces the ability to use all the cities to orchestrate the hiring to reach the people they want. I'm guessing they just ran out of time to be able to preserve that greater flexibility.
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Post by sealaw90 on Dec 1, 2014 11:49:21 GMT -5
I believe those people all have narrow GALs on this cert for a relatively small cluster of cities on the list and those cities simply will not get hired this time. Instead they will interview them in early January and use those cities to fill in the 2nd class. That's exactly right. I just (finally) reached a live person (thank you MPD for the info!) and she confirmed that my city is not on the list for hiring with this round but will be on the next round after the holidays. I would guess that's the situation for the others in the "I haven't heard anything eek!" group. OMG, OK1956, that's really big news! There's been lots of assumptions about certain cities being pulled on this cert but no actual hiring for those cities this go-around. Phew - you don't have to move in January! Let us know when you get a call to interview.
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Post by hopefalj on Dec 1, 2014 12:05:32 GMT -5
I believe those people all have narrow GALs on this cert for a relatively small cluster of cities on the list and those cities simply will not get hired this time. Instead they will interview them in early January and use those cities to fill in the 2nd class. That's exactly right. I just (finally) reached a live person (thank you MPD for the info!) and she confirmed that my city is not on the list for hiring with this round but will be on the next round after the holidays. I would guess that's the situation for the others in the "I haven't heard anything eek!" group. Thanks for sharing! It's good to know that place (wherever it may be )is not a possibility at this time.
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Post by longtalker on Dec 1, 2014 12:06:03 GMT -5
Very interesting. How would the transfer list work in that instance? Would the cities still be on the second cert, so it would not open up. Or, would those cities have to be worked on the transfer list to see if there were still vacancies as some on the first cert might have put in for a transfer to the cities that were originally on the cert, then put over. Any thoughts?
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Post by hondo35 on Dec 1, 2014 12:16:24 GMT -5
I believe those people all have narrow GALs on this cert for a relatively small cluster of cities on the list and those cities simply will not get hired this time. Instead they will interview them in early January and use those cities to fill in the 2nd class. That's exactly right. I just (finally) reached a live person (thank you MPD for the info!) and she confirmed that my city is not on the list for hiring with this round but will be on the next round after the holidays. I would guess that's the situation for the others in the "I haven't heard anything eek!" group. I, too, called (prior to this post by OK) and after being directed to the Office of the Chief Judge, was informed that the cities on my GAL were not on the hiring list at this time. I did not get the reassuring "after the holidays" part of the message; just that I would in fact be interviewed when they were hiring for my cities...but she couldn't tell me when that would be. Sigh. I guess that relieves some pressure...or at least moves it to a different pain center in my brain.
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Post by hopefalj on Dec 1, 2014 12:18:25 GMT -5
That's exactly right. I just (finally) reached a live person (thank you MPD for the info!) and she confirmed that my city is not on the list for hiring with this round but will be on the next round after the holidays. I would guess that's the situation for the others in the "I haven't heard anything eek!" group. I, too, called (prior to this post by OK) and after being directed to the Office of the Chief Judge, was informed that the cities on my GAL were not on the hiring list at this time. I did not get the reassuring "after the holidays" part of the message; just that I would in fact be interviewed when they were hiring for my cities...but she couldn't tell me when that would be. Sigh. I guess that relieves some pressure...or at least moves it to a different pain center in my brain. I would have thought you would have just asked Bob at Thanksgiving, being as you're his relative and all.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 1, 2014 12:20:07 GMT -5
I think talk of transfer list for the first certers - at least causing significant disruption - may be premature - we are only at the initial window of eligibility for the first batch - and it is possible that offers will be extended before the smaller batch comes around. Now, I do think they will be in play for the first certers before the next round of hiring - that's for sure. But, with all the talk of many of the initial round of 70 getting their first choice, Top 5, Top 10, etc., there may be a much smaller population of around 35 or 40, total, between the 2 groups looking to transfer (although I could be wrong).
Now, if you're out there sitting with 1 city, and it gets filled by a first cert transfer - that would be a bummer, but I can't imagine this will affect more than 1 or 2 people for this round, AT MOST.
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Post by gary on Dec 1, 2014 12:25:14 GMT -5
That's exactly right. I just (finally) reached a live person (thank you MPD for the info!) and she confirmed that my city is not on the list for hiring with this round but will be on the next round after the holidays. I would guess that's the situation for the others in the "I haven't heard anything eek!" group. I, too, called (prior to this post by OK) and after being directed to the Office of the Chief Judge, was informed that the cities on my GAL were not on the hiring list at this time. I did not get the reassuring "after the holidays" part of the message; just that I would in fact be interviewed when they were hiring for my cities...but she couldn't tell me when that would be. Sigh. I guess that relieves some pressure...or at least moves it to a different pain center in my brain. This confirms that the current set of certs was pulled for multiple rounds of hiring. That would mean 1) SSA will be able to move on to the next round when it wants to without having to first request certs from OPM; 2) so SSA may start the next round immediately on the heels of this round, perhaps early to mid-January; and 3) the transfer list for a bunch of cities will remain frozen for several months at least.
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 1, 2014 12:30:01 GMT -5
I think you are absolutely correct Gary in your a$$umption about a second round of hiring from this cert. It is likely the next round will indeed start in January or early February for a class in late February to mid-March.
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 1, 2014 12:31:15 GMT -5
Very interesting. How would the transfer list work in that instance? Would the cities still be on the second cert, so it would not open up. Or, would those cities have to be worked on the transfer list to see if there were still vacancies as some on the first cert might have put in for a transfer to the cities that were originally on the cert, then put over. Any thoughts? I don't see any transfer list being worked while the hiring is still occurring for this second cert.
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 1, 2014 12:36:19 GMT -5
Lastly, I think this bodes well for those who were on the first cert, but not picked up at that time. If you made the second cert the odds are in your favor of possibly being picked up here to quickly fill the January class. It is likely SSA will try to hire the bare necessity of 25 to 30 for the January class and hold off more hiring until the next training class, most likely in late February or March. Furthermore, it is likely there will be two classes in February/March for training. Hence, the overall hiring is likely 75 to 85 people total from this second cert.
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Post by orchid on Dec 1, 2014 12:50:22 GMT -5
Anyone care to post or pm someone with the cities that aren't being hired this go round? Thanks:)
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