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Post by skippy on Nov 28, 2014 18:56:15 GMT -5
Has anyone heard what cities might be on the 3rd cert? Although I feel fortunate to have made the second cert, i have only a few cities on it and am not really expecting an offer this round. And so to pass the time, I find myself daydreaming about what cities might be on the 2015 certs. Has anyone heard any rumors about what locations might (or might not) get new judges in 2015?
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Post by 71stretch on Nov 28, 2014 19:30:41 GMT -5
I don't think there's any way to know that at this point. As I understand it, there are vacancies in my city, and more anticipated through retirement, but that city has not shown up on either of the first two sets of certs. If your cities are popular for transfer, odds are you won't see them on a cert.
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Post by grassgreener on Nov 28, 2014 21:38:29 GMT -5
I don't think there's any way to know that at this point. As I understand it, there are vacancies in my city, and more anticipated through retirement, but that city has not shown up on either of the first two sets of certs. If your cities are popular for transfer, odds are you won't see them on a cert. IMHO, you'll probably see cities on the 3rd cert that you might not have seen for a while. The transfer list will pretty much be worked all the way through by the time the 3rd cert. comes around. "First tier" cities with let's say a transfer list of 10 or more people won't be on the list i.e. Honolulu, San Diego etc., but the less than 10 might show up - people have already said no by then to transfer offers and openings are openings. There seems to be some scuttlebutt about judges possibly taking decision writer's office in the future. If there is an open spot, it seems like the agency would like they want to fill it. The union and the agency have already agreed to have decisionwriters share offices if they are working 3 days at home - it opens up empty spots - wouldn't be surprised if the Agency fills them with ALJs, provided the union agrees. |
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Post by yellowrose on Nov 28, 2014 22:08:49 GMT -5
Any chance some Texas cities will show up on the 3rd cert?
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Post by mamaru on Nov 29, 2014 11:09:48 GMT -5
Despite the ranking for the first certers, a lot of them did not end up at home (or somewhere else where they wanted to be) and are seeking transfers now that they are eligible to do so. They are probably not targeting the "top ten," but the transfer list has been replenished prior to the third cert.
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Post by hopefalj on Nov 29, 2014 11:55:56 GMT -5
Any chance some Texas cities will show up on the 3rd cert? The name makes a lot of sense now.  Texas cities are rarities on certs, although they have appeared on occasion. Low cost of living, no state income tax, and good job opportunities for spouses make it a somewhat desirable area. Harlingen is on this cert, but I doubt anyone is going to wind up there. And to mamaru's point, I think the first class off the first cert is now officially eligible for the transfer list with the second class being eligible before Christmas. I'm assuming several put their names on at least one city's list. Best of luck to those trying to get home. |
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Post by bartleby on Nov 29, 2014 13:50:31 GMT -5
It seems Harlingen is always open, but that is probably a bad thing..
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Post by anotherfed on Nov 29, 2014 14:29:17 GMT -5
Any chance some Texas cities will show up on the 3rd cert? What?! Harlingen's not good enough for you?!? |
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Post by mamaru on Nov 29, 2014 14:49:36 GMT -5
Harlingen is remote, but has SW service!
The first class from the first cert has been given the opportunity to sign up for the transfer list, the second should follow shortly. After the second cert hires, those lists will be unfrozen.
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Post by hopefalj on Nov 29, 2014 14:56:29 GMT -5
It seems Harlingen is always open, but that is probably a bad thing.. It's a satellite office with only one ALJ office, I believe. I'm not sure it's ever been filled off a cert. Not sure why it keeps popping up unless they've moved buildings or have reconfigured a second office. |
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Post by jonsprag1 on Nov 29, 2014 15:22:44 GMT -5
It seems Harlingen is always open, but that is probably a bad thing.. Hey its got palm trees and no snow---and is about 40 miles from South Padre Island on the gulf of Mexico---doesn't sound too bad to me |
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Post by anotherfed on Nov 29, 2014 16:47:40 GMT -5
It seems Harlingen is always open, but that is probably a bad thing.. It's a satellite office with only one ALJ office, I believe. I'm not sure it's ever been filled off a cert. Not sure why it keeps popping up unless they've moved buildings or have reconfigured a second office. Does that mean that whoever goes to that office simultaneously becomes the Chief ALJ? Sweet! |
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Post by gary on Nov 29, 2014 18:51:32 GMT -5
It's a satellite office with only one ALJ office, I believe. I'm not sure it's ever been filled off a cert. Not sure why it keeps popping up unless they've moved buildings or have reconfigured a second office. Does that mean that whoever goes to that office simultaneously becomes the Chief ALJ? Sweet! I wouldn't work for such an oppressive tyrant. |
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Post by skippy on Nov 29, 2014 18:55:45 GMT -5
Does that mean that whoever goes to that office simultaneously becomes the Chief ALJ? Sweet! I wouldn't work for such an oppressive tyrant. I volunteer to work for the oppressive tyrant. |
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Post by bartleby on Nov 29, 2014 22:07:38 GMT -5
I think it is a 2 Judge satellite office from San Antonio. The bad news, no one stays for very long. A lot of bad things happening along the border. That is some of my original stomping grounds. Still have friends and loves down there. Word is that a lot of Mexican Cartel own some big houses on our side of the border. There is some kidnapping going on and very few people have the income of an ALJ so there is an opportunity to have a questionable vacation on the wrong side of the border until or if your loved ones cough up the pesos. I would also imagine a majority of your hearings would be with an interpreter which really slows them down. JMHO.. As usual.
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Post by mamaru on Nov 30, 2014 9:20:03 GMT -5
Any chance some Texas cities will show up on the 3rd cert? The name makes a lot of sense now. Texas cities are rarities on certs, although they have appeared on occasion. Low cost of living, no state income tax, and good job opportunities for spouses make it a somewhat desirable area. Harlingen is on this cert, but I doubt anyone is going to wind up there. And to mamaru's point, I think the first class off the first cert is now officially eligible for the transfer list with the second class being eligible before Christmas. I'm assuming several put their names on at least one city's list. Best of luck to those trying to get home. I know three in the first class and two have requested transfers. |
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Post by saaao on Nov 30, 2014 10:30:01 GMT -5
The name makes a lot of sense now. Texas cities are rarities on certs, although they have appeared on occasion. Low cost of living, no state income tax, and good job opportunities for spouses make it a somewhat desirable area. Harlingen is on this cert, but I doubt anyone is going to wind up there. And to mamaru's point, I think the first class off the first cert is now officially eligible for the transfer list with the second class being eligible before Christmas. I'm assuming several put their names on at least one city's list. Best of luck to those trying to get home. I know three in the first class and two have requested transfers. So to clarify what has been reported, once the cert for a city is requested from OPM transfer offers for that city are locked until hiring is for that round is completed? I imagine even with the new preference system that will lead to heartburn for those new ALJ's wanting to transfer while the hiring process is still going on as these hiring request seem to be covering large swaths of the respective regions. Anyone want to start a poll to see how many first cert hires have requested transfers and to which region? Do you think enough still follow to make it meaningful? |
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Post by grassgreener on Nov 30, 2014 11:46:18 GMT -5
Any chance some Texas cities will show up on the 3rd cert? Texas cities have made the cert. and been filled in the past. Dallas was filled with two new ALJs in 2013. |
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Post by sandiferhands (old) on Nov 30, 2014 13:07:11 GMT -5
I know three in the first class and two have requested transfers. So to clarify what has been reported, once the cert for a city is requested from OPM transfer offers for that city are locked until hiring is for that round is completed? I imagine even with the new preference system that will lead to heartburn for those new ALJ's wanting to transfer while the hiring process is still going on as these hiring request seem to be covering large swaths of the respective regions. Anyone want to start a poll to see how many first cert hires have requested transfers and to which region? Do you think enough still follow to make it meaningful? Sometimes insiders will post the complete latest transfer list, names redacted. This helps us see the overall popularity of cities, for an idea of what the transfer outlook may be for our preferred cities. |
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Post by hopefalj on Nov 30, 2014 15:02:53 GMT -5
I think it is a 2 Judge satellite office from San Antonio. The bad news, no one stays for very long. A lot of bad things happening along the border. That is some of my original stomping grounds. Still have friends and loves down there. Word is that a lot of Mexican Cartel own some big houses on our side of the border. There is some kidnapping going on and very few people have the income of an ALJ so there is an opportunity to have a questionable vacation on the wrong side of the border until or if your loved ones cough up the pesos. I would also imagine a majority of your hearings would be with an interpreter which really slows them down. JMHO.. As usual. Judge Lappin is the only judge permanently down there with Judge Gutierrez preceding her, and I believe they are a satellite of Houston. So long as you aren't an illegal alien, a coyote, or involved in drug deals gone bad, the chance of being involved in a cartel kidnapping are about as good as your chances of hitting the lottery. The cartels aren't going to draw the heat that kidnapping or killing American citizens would create. |
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