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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 16, 2014 15:40:54 GMT -5
I think I figured it at 4 to 5 per day last time,with the regular hiccups (the 48-hour problems). If it is indeed closer to a 6 to 8 clip - that would seem like lightning compared to last time. And we're not certain they're done for today - it is after 1530 on the East Coast.
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Post by gary on Dec 16, 2014 15:51:45 GMT -5
On the first certs, our polls included many proxy votes. I haven't seen any indication of proxy voting yet on this set of hires. So we may not be capturing the same percentage on our current city poll as were represented one way or another on the first certs' city poll.
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Post by hondo35 on Dec 16, 2014 16:18:47 GMT -5
Been busy all morning and just checked in on the board. Congratulations to all those who have received offers today, and to all who will receive them in the coming week! Hope to join you guys next year sometime...if they'd only call me for an interview, lol!
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Post by bettyrubble on Dec 16, 2014 16:20:32 GMT -5
Any intel on actual start date for this round?
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Post by gary on Dec 16, 2014 16:22:26 GMT -5
January 26.
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 16, 2014 16:23:06 GMT -5
Start date in their ODAR office is January 26, 2015. Falls Church training will be in February.
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Post by bettyrubble on Dec 16, 2014 16:39:37 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by hopefalj on Dec 16, 2014 16:40:00 GMT -5
I'm guessing we're done for the day and will hopefully restart tomorrow morning after the current offeree checks their VM or talks with their family to make sure they're good to go to city X.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Dec 16, 2014 16:44:57 GMT -5
I'm guessing we're done for the day and will hopefully restart tomorrow morning after the current offeree checks their VM or talks with their family to make sure they're good to go to city X. Yep, and Bob is gone for the day, although one has reported the call came from someone other than Bob.
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Post by Loopstok on Dec 16, 2014 17:18:21 GMT -5
Wait, Bob just gets to go home? At a time like this?!
So, with at least 16 hours stretching out before us (and even longer than that, for those of us not Eastern Time Zone-normative) before the next phone calls are made, that leaves plenty of time for wondering, and randomly speculating based on incomplete info. So let's speculate some more.
There's been a pretty wide score range for the new folks hired today, from 80+ down through 74, as per the polling palace data (based on the 5 numerical scores reported, as of a few minutes before I type this).
Are they picking new hires, do you think, in descending score order? Did they call Madame 80+ in the morning, and then hit Mr. 74 at 3:30 PM Eastern? Do you think there's a chance that, come Thursday evening or the dawn of Friday, that they'll reach those of us with scores below 74? Or are they only gonna pick people roughly centered in the 74 to 80+ range?
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Post by hopefalj on Dec 16, 2014 17:35:05 GMT -5
My SWAG...
I think they'll teach the low 70s/upper 60s by the end of the hiring. I don't believe they're hiring in score order. I think the hires for places like Orland Park or Milwaukee will have higher scoring hires than Middlesboro, but I could be wrong.
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Post by gary on Dec 16, 2014 17:35:55 GMT -5
Wait, Bob just gets to go home? At a time like this?! So, with at least 16 hours stretching out before us (and even longer than that, for those of us not Eastern Time Zone-normative) before the next phone calls are made, that leaves plenty of time for wondering, and randomly speculating based on incomplete info. So let's speculate some more. There's been a pretty wide score range for the new folks hired today, from 80+ down through 74, as per the polling palace data (based on the 5 numerical scores reported, as of a few minutes before I type this). Are they picking new hires, do you think, in descending score order? Did they call Madame 80+ in the morning, and then hit Mr. 74 at 3:30 PM Eastern? Do you think there's a chance that, come Thursday evening or the dawn of Friday, that they'll reach those of us with scores below 74? Or are they only gonna pick people roughly centered in the 74 to 80+ range? The general trend will likely be descending score order. But there won't be perfect correspondence to descending score order.
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Post by hamster on Dec 16, 2014 17:58:30 GMT -5
Congratulations to those to whom offers have been made. Good luck to those waiting to hear. I was turned down...then got an offer three months later. So, don't be too disheartened whatever happens.
I am happy to report that I'll get to work with one of the newbies! It's an amazingly small world: We worked together in the same small office 23 years ago for about two months, doing the same job. Now we've come full circle. I'm 23 years older, but she's stayed the same age, no doubt. And working together again. Doing the same job. Crazy small world! All I can say is: Aim High.
Good luck to all! Hamster
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Post by hondo35 on Dec 16, 2014 18:00:58 GMT -5
Wait, Bob just gets to go home? At a time like this?! So, with at least 16 hours stretching out before us (and even longer than that, for those of us not Eastern Time Zone-normative) before the next phone calls are made, that leaves plenty of time for wondering, and randomly speculating based on incomplete info. So let's speculate some more. There's been a pretty wide score range for the new folks hired today, from 80+ down through 74, as per the polling palace data (based on the 5 numerical scores reported, as of a few minutes before I type this). Are they picking new hires, do you think, in descending score order? Did they call Madame 80+ in the morning, and then hit Mr. 74 at 3:30 PM Eastern? Do you think there's a chance that, come Thursday evening or the dawn of Friday, that they'll reach those of us with scores below 74? Or are they only gonna pick people roughly centered in the 74 to 80+ range? The general trend will likely be descending score order. But there won't be perfect correspondence to descending score order. If that is true, that would seem--to me anyway--to mean that the interviews themselves are merely to confirm the scoring process and maybe weed out some people whose psychological deficiencies did not show up in the numerical scores (like mine, lol). Am I wrong about that?
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Post by JudgeRatty on Dec 16, 2014 18:14:05 GMT -5
My SWAG on the roll out is dependent upon who they are trying to reach. Let's say there is a highly desirable low scoring insider on the cert. If they fill cities in order so that by the time they are toward the end of the total class size, that low scorer will gradually move up the list. If it is in an undesirable city, they move up the list quite fast since there are less people with that city on the cert.
So "generally" it will be score order. If they know they will pick up a high scorer in city x later in the process, but fill city y first, and that high scorer does not have that city y on their GAL, it makes it "appear" like it is not score order if they fill city y first.
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Post by saaao on Dec 16, 2014 18:30:07 GMT -5
The general trend will likely be descending score order. But there won't be perfect correspondence to descending score order. If that is true, that would seem--to me anyway--to mean that the interviews themselves are merely to confirm the scoring process and maybe weed out some people whose psychological deficiencies did not show up in the numerical scores (like mine, lol). Am I wrong about that? Given the way OPM has been doling out candidates in dribs and drabs and ODAR's critical hiring needs, I think unless someone had a nervous breakdown or openly admitted to blatantly unethical behavior during the interview they are probably going to be deemed good enough. I think those who are ruled out at this stage will be the victim of bad references, poor credit reports, or poorly considered social media habits.
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 16, 2014 18:50:39 GMT -5
My SWAG on the roll out is dependent upon who they are trying to reach. Let's say there is a highly desirable low scoring insider on the cert. If they fill cities in order so that by the time they are toward the end of the total class size, that low scorer will gradually move up the list. If it is in an undesirable city, they move up the list quite fast since there are less people with that city on the cert. So "generally" it will be score order. If they know they will pick up a high scorer in city x later in the process, but fill city y first, and that high scorer does not have that city y on their GAL, it makes it "appear" like it is not score order if they fill city y first. Very good explanation of the hiring process sratty.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Dec 16, 2014 18:54:16 GMT -5
My SWAG on the roll out is dependent upon who they are trying to reach. Let's say there is a highly desirable low scoring insider on the cert. If they fill cities in order so that by the time they are toward the end of the total class size, that low scorer will gradually move up the list. If it is in an undesirable city, they move up the list quite fast since there are less people with that city on the cert. So "generally" it will be score order. If they know they will pick up a high scorer in city x later in the process, but fill city y first, and that high scorer does not have that city y on their GAL, it makes it "appear" like it is not score order if they fill city y first. Very good explanation of the hiring process sratty. Actually, this is totally wishful thinking on my part. LOL!
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Post by moopigsdad on Dec 16, 2014 18:57:09 GMT -5
Very good explanation of the hiring process sratty. Actually, this is totally wishful thinking on my part. LOL! I still think your WAG is a good explanation sratty.
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Post by 71stretch on Dec 16, 2014 19:05:35 GMT -5
The general trend will likely be descending score order. But there won't be perfect correspondence to descending score order. If that is true, that would seem--to me anyway--to mean that the interviews themselves are merely to confirm the scoring process and maybe weed out some people whose psychological deficiencies did not show up in the numerical scores (like mine, lol). Am I wrong about that? Yes. I think the interview counts for way more than that. I'm not convinced that the calls are intentionally in score order, either.
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