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Post by aljhopeful2 on Aug 18, 2015 21:56:40 GMT -5
I am new to the site, and I'm in the eliminated-after-second-round-given-opportunity-to-move-forward-and-supposed-to-hear-after-August-21 group. I have a question for you all. What was the lag time between the WD/LBMT/SI and the notification of your results? Weeks? Months? Thanks. It took about six months from the testing until I got the NOR.
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Post by Judicially Imployed on Aug 18, 2015 22:51:05 GMT -5
because the process seems to jump along it fits and starts. Burning that statement into your cerebral cortex would serve you well for any and all aspects of federal employment
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Post by marten77 on Aug 19, 2015 7:12:07 GMT -5
Pixie's most famous and memorable quote going back eight years in relation to Puzzle Palace's strange hiring was that "scores don't matter." She was scoffed at but time proved her wisdom true. Likewise, this idea of folks who did/did not appeal being given a second chance by OPM feeling less than equal is simply giving air to some old grievance un-related to the matter at hand. It is offensive to all of us. Do you think Chief Judges of other Agencies go around and compare their NOR scores? Please. They could have been the lowest scoring candidate picked up by Puzzle Palace that year. marten77's great post posits the ultimate truth: he (I assume) is willing to go to bat again and maybe strike out but also maybe hit a home run. That's all that matters at this point. Frankly, I'm real glad marten77 decided to take the plunge. He's already halfway there with that sense of humor and judicial wisdom. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Thank you privateatty. Indeed, it is a plunge. I'm happy to once again be in the game. As for my renewed presence due to OPM's action, I could throw any number of platitudes at the whole situation, such as: "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" comes to mind. I choose not to try and read anything into OPM's decision. Therein lies madness. My suggestion to all others: do the same. Your overall assessment is correct. I'm just happy to be able to give it a whirl once again. I like to think I could do the job and do it well. But only time will tell. Been wrong many a time before and will be wrong plenty of more times in the future. I guess the only drawback is that if I do not make it through, I do not have a Big Law $350k a year job to return to with aspirations of becoming an Article III judge as a fall back. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) When I left here 2 years ago, there was an obnoxious member, aljfaq I think his name was, but I do not see any posts from him or even see his name on the member list any longer. I'm guessing he did not make it past testing?
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 19, 2015 8:06:08 GMT -5
Pixie's most famous and memorable quote going back eight years in relation to Puzzle Palace's strange hiring was that "scores don't matter." She was scoffed at but time proved her wisdom true. Likewise, this idea of folks who did/did not appeal being given a second chance by OPM feeling less than equal is simply giving air to some old grievance un-related to the matter at hand. It is offensive to all of us. Do you think Chief Judges of other Agencies go around and compare their NOR scores? Please. They could have been the lowest scoring candidate picked up by Puzzle Palace that year. marten77's great post posits the ultimate truth: he (I assume) is willing to go to bat again and maybe strike out but also maybe hit a home run. That's all that matters at this point. Frankly, I'm real glad marten77 decided to take the plunge. He's already halfway there with that sense of humor and judicial wisdom. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Thank you privateatty. Indeed, it is a plunge. I'm happy to once again be in the game. As for my renewed presence due to OPM's action, I could throw any number of platitudes at the whole situation, such as: "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" comes to mind. I choose not to try and read anything into OPM's decision. Therein lies madness. My suggestion to all others: do the same. Your overall assessment is correct. I'm just happy to be able to give it a whirl once again. I like to think I could do the job and do it well. But only time will tell. Been wrong many a time before and will be wrong plenty of more times in the future. I guess the only drawback is that if I do not make it through, I do not have a Big Law $350k a year job to return to with aspirations of becoming an Article III judge as a fall back. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) When I left here 2 years ago, there was an obnoxious member, aljfaq I think his name was, but I do not see any posts from him or even see his name on the member list any longer. I'm guessing he did not make it past testing? If I recall, ALJD and Pixie made the decision to remove him, regardless of OPM's scoring.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 19, 2015 8:09:16 GMT -5
Thank you privateatty. Indeed, it is a plunge. I'm happy to once again be in the game. As for my renewed presence due to OPM's action, I could throw any number of platitudes at the whole situation, such as: "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" comes to mind. I choose not to try and read anything into OPM's decision. Therein lies madness. My suggestion to all others: do the same. Your overall assessment is correct. I'm just happy to be able to give it a whirl once again. I like to think I could do the job and do it well. But only time will tell. Been wrong many a time before and will be wrong plenty of more times in the future. I guess the only drawback is that if I do not make it through, I do not have a Big Law $350k a year job to return to with aspirations of becoming an Article III judge as a fall back. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) When I left here 2 years ago, there was an obnoxious member, aljfaq I think his name was, but I do not see any posts from him or even see his name on the member list any longer. I'm guessing he did not make it past testing? If I recall, ALJD and Pixie made the decision to remove him, regardless of OPM's scoring. Although I believe he has been back in one incarnation or another since that time based upon some comments made by a new member to the Board who sounds suspiciously like ALJFAQ.
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Post by worrywart on Aug 19, 2015 8:56:48 GMT -5
Since the post that it is harder than the Bar made me Sick all night, without asking for anyone to divulge particulars, does studying for the Bar help?
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Post by minny on Aug 19, 2015 9:30:40 GMT -5
Since the post that it is harder than the Bar made me Sick all night, without asking for anyone to divulge particulars, does studying for the Bar help? Step away from the edge. Seriously, I would not equate this testing process to the bar exam, other than the high-stakes nature of it. I'm not saying you should be cavalier about it, but I do suggest taking deep breaths and relaxing as much as possible.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 19, 2015 9:36:48 GMT -5
Since the post that it is harder than the Bar made me Sick all night, without asking for anyone to divulge particulars, does studying for the Bar help? No, not really worrywart. If you can write well and you can think somewhat logically, in addition to come across well in a somewhat unorthodox interview, then all should be copacetic. Don't get so fraught up with your fear that you freeze up. Just be loose and have a positive attitude.
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 19, 2015 10:04:17 GMT -5
Since the post that it is harder than the Bar made me Sick all night, without asking for anyone to divulge particulars, does studying for the Bar help? Worrywart, you've got to approach this the same way you would approach any serious, potentially life/career altering event. How do you prepare for a huge contested jury trial? How did you prepare for the bar exam? Whatever tactics and techniques you use that you know work for you is what I suggest you apply to Phase 3 testing in DC. Personally, if I am not OCD in my preps, I am not comfortable. If this was the second, third, or more times I had done this, then I would be more chill, but you should know your comfort zone and work to achieve this before the test.
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Post by worrywart on Aug 19, 2015 10:12:54 GMT -5
Since the post that it is harder than the Bar made me Sick all night, without asking for anyone to divulge particulars, does studying for the Bar help? Worrywart, you've got to approach this the same way you would approach any serious, potentially life/career altering event. How do you prepare for a huge contested jury trial? How did you prepare for the bar exam? Whatever tactics and techniques you use that you know work for you is what I suggest you apply to Phase 3 testing in DC. Personally, if I am not OCD in my preps, I am not comfortable. If this was the second, third, or more times I had done this, then I would be more chill, but you should know your comfort zone and work to achieve this before the test. That's the problem, in a contested jury trial, I know the issues, the law and the arguments, here, I know nothing. It is like looking over a vast field not knowing where the snake is hiding or for that matter, which snake I should be careful not to step on.
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Post by gary on Aug 19, 2015 10:29:22 GMT -5
Worrywart, you've got to approach this the same way you would approach any serious, potentially life/career altering event. How do you prepare for a huge contested jury trial? How did you prepare for the bar exam? Whatever tactics and techniques you use that you know work for you is what I suggest you apply to Phase 3 testing in DC. Personally, if I am not OCD in my preps, I am not comfortable. If this was the second, third, or more times I had done this, then I would be more chill, but you should know your comfort zone and work to achieve this before the test. That's the problem, in a contested jury trial, I know the issues, the law and the arguments, here, I know nothing. It is like looking over a vast field not knowing where the snake is hiding or for that matter, which snake I should be careful not to step on. Hint: The snake is in the mezcal bottle posing as a worm.
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 19, 2015 10:56:52 GMT -5
Worrywart, you've got to approach this the same way you would approach any serious, potentially life/career altering event. How do you prepare for a huge contested jury trial? How did you prepare for the bar exam? Whatever tactics and techniques you use that you know work for you is what I suggest you apply to Phase 3 testing in DC. Personally, if I am not OCD in my preps, I am not comfortable. If this was the second, third, or more times I had done this, then I would be more chill, but you should know your comfort zone and work to achieve this before the test. That's the problem, in a contested jury trial, I know the issues, the law and the arguments, here, I know nothing. It is like looking over a vast field not knowing where the snake is hiding or for that matter, which snake I should be careful not to step on. You do know the law, you know there are snakes hiding in the grass, and most of all, you know YOU. That's the most important thing to know for the WD and SI. The testing phases are all about you and your ability to be an ALJ. Either you have learned which snakes not to step on by now or not. It's all good in the end, we promise.
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Post by Administrator ALJ on Aug 19, 2015 11:09:36 GMT -5
This question may have already been asked and I apologize if it's repetitive, but I'm a bit skeptical of my email. It's the same one as the rest have posted. I just worry because of the data breach at OPM announced this past June that we may be getting targeted. Has anyone confirmed that (for realsies) this is a genuine message from OPM? I'm going to call today, but was wondering if anyone had thoughts on this.
Thanks!
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Post by marten77 on Aug 19, 2015 11:15:22 GMT -5
This question may have already been asked and I apologize if it's repetitive, but I'm a bit skeptical of my email. It's the same one as the rest have posted. I just worry because of the data breach at OPM announced this past June that we may be getting targeted. Has anyone confirmed that (for realsies) this is a genuine message from OPM? I'm going to call today, but was wondering if anyone had thoughts on this. Thanks! To the best of my knowledge, this is 99.9% legit. I had heard rumblings from Regional Office that this might be coming to pass back in June. However, when I heard that information, the talk then was that it was not going to happen until sometime into FY 2016. (Hence the .1% and my subsequent surprise to get the email so soon, if at all). Regional Office gossip (like all other gossip) has the tendency to have the same problems as playing a game of telephone with a group of people. Something always gets lost or mistranslated.
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Post by Administrator ALJ on Aug 19, 2015 11:18:30 GMT -5
Thanks Marten77! Just needed to know that this wasn't part of the whole "data breach" that was talked about in June. I'd hate to get to DC and find out I'm being sold into some sort of Eastern European brothel. I'm too pretty for that! ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 11:18:35 GMT -5
(1) It is from an OPM email address; and (2) Judge Bice stated at the last training session that they were being sent out. Enough corroboration for me.
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Post by Administrator ALJ on Aug 19, 2015 11:22:11 GMT -5
(1) It is from an OPM email address; and (2) Judge Bice stated at the last training session that they were being sent out. Enough corroboration for me. True, but these guys are sneaky alj2bee (referring to the OPM email address). I am 90% certain (not quite as confident as marten77), and have sent the agency an email to the address listed on its website. It's helpful to learn that Justice Bice mentioned it. That makes me much more comfortable that it's not a large-scale scam.
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Post by lizdarcy on Aug 19, 2015 11:25:52 GMT -5
OMG. Seriously -- its nothing like the bar exam!! No knowledge is tested or even assumed. It's a test of skills and aptitudes. It's not easy but its also nothing to make yourself crazy about. You will regret all that time wasted stressing about it.
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Post by marten77 on Aug 19, 2015 11:30:20 GMT -5
Thanks Marten77! Just needed to know that this wasn't part of the whole "data breach" that was talked about in June. I'd hate to get to DC and find out I'm being sold into some sort of Eastern European brothel. I'm too pretty for that! ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png) I think my chances are better for the brothel. No Multi-State Bar Exam-like test to take for that.
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Post by Administrator ALJ on Aug 19, 2015 11:42:59 GMT -5
Thanks Marten77! Just needed to know that this wasn't part of the whole "data breach" that was talked about in June. I'd hate to get to DC and find out I'm being sold into some sort of Eastern European brothel. I'm too pretty for that! ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png) I think my chances are better for the brothel. No Multi-State Bar Exam-like test to take for that. ROFL...I'm going to be thinking of this conversation in the weeks to come. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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