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Post by christina on Feb 15, 2016 13:32:23 GMT -5
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Post by mamaru on Feb 15, 2016 16:23:59 GMT -5
We were given mandatory cell phones at my law firm in 1986. Life changed forever.
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Post by christina on Feb 15, 2016 16:56:02 GMT -5
We were given mandatory cell phones at my law firm in 1986. Life changed forever. i imagine, yuck how horrible. Even fax machines caused some hassles. i remember the delightful fax an opposing counsel just happened to send when i took time off for my wedding that they knew all about, how i "miss" those days....
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Post by moopigsdad on Feb 16, 2016 10:38:44 GMT -5
Many many moons ago I got my undergrad degree from a very small private college in the south. As was the norm for many such institutions, mandatory weekly chapel was required. I will never forget one such service when, as I was going into the building, I was summoned and asked to serve on a greeting line for an unannounced dignitary. I wasn't told who, but I remember the school newspaper guy having his camera confiscated and being told not to write up anything about today's service. I also remember faculty and students being told that no cameras or recording devices would be allowed in the building (this was in the days when a cellphone was just a phone). A few minutes later a large 4x4 pulling a trailer with atvs on it pulled up outside with a couple other escort cars. A rather stocky guy jumped down from the truck dressed in camo typical of the areas turkey hunters. He quickly donned a black robe over the camo and was introduced as US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. He spoke for maybe 15 minutes, shook some hands including mine and then off came the robe and away sped the truck. I don't know that Scalia ever wrote a word in a decision I agree with. But he damn sure left a memory with me I will have for a lifetime. Thank you my friend Funky for a wonderful reminiscence of an event in your history with Justice Scalia. I enjoyed your retelling of the event. I do agree with your conclusions above regarding decisions, whether majority opinion or minority dissent, authored by Justice Scalia. However, I can appreciate the vim and vigor he took to his position and viewpoints, even if I disagreed with those decisions.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Feb 16, 2016 11:24:30 GMT -5
I only met 2 SCOTUS justices (and neither is with us any longer). Scalia celebrated his birthday at my law school, roughly 20 years ago. He was very personable (more so than Rehnquist) and had this larger than life personality. I would rank him with Brennan as far as the most gifted writer on the court in the last 50 years or so.
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Post by keepsake on Feb 16, 2016 11:27:02 GMT -5
Re comment above concerning not agreeing with a word in a Scalia decision - a tad hyperbolic - got the point but really - not even a unanimous decision? Like Shapiro et al. v McManus from 2015 - not all decisions can be easily read through a lens of left vs right.
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Post by funkyodar on Feb 16, 2016 11:49:16 GMT -5
Wow, don't know what to do with myself now. Getting accused of being a "tad hyperbolic" on an internet message board.
Thank the almighty we have such wonderful self appointed gatekeepers to call out such major transgressions.
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Post by Gaidin on Feb 16, 2016 11:54:09 GMT -5
Wow, don't know what to do with myself now. Getting accused of being a "tad hyperbolic" on an internet message board. Thank the almighty we have such wonderful self appointed gatekeepers to call out such major transgressions. And to be accused of being hyperbolic about Scalia who was never hyperbolic in anything he wrote or said. You deserve this thrashing you scalawag.
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Post by gary on Feb 16, 2016 12:19:31 GMT -5
Wow, don't know what to do with myself now. Getting accused of being a "tad hyperbolic" on an internet message board. Thank the almighty we have such wonderful self appointed gatekeepers to call out such major transgressions. And to be accused of being hyperbolic about Scalia who was never hyperbolic in anything he wrote or said. You deserve this thrashing you scalawag. Show proper respect, G. That's Hon. Scalawag to us unwashed.
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Post by mamaru on Feb 16, 2016 13:44:20 GMT -5
We were given mandatory cell phones at my law firm in 1986. Life changed forever. i imagine, yuck how horrible. Even fax machines caused some hassles. i remember the delightful fax an opposing counsel just happened to send when i took time off for my wedding that they knew all about, how i "miss" those days.... It used to cost $2 per page to fax - I can remember the manager of office services checking in to confirm if we really needed to fax things. AND we had a WATS line, plus a computer program that allowed us to convert to the regular rates to charge the clients extra for long distance calls. The WATS line was never available on Mondays during football season because the attorneys were too busy contacting teams to confirm line-ups for next week's fantasy football. I also remember the bicycle messengers in the lobby at 4:45 to race stuff over to the courthouse before the clerk's office closed at 5 - before electronic filing the streets and sidewalks by the courthouse were dangerous right before 5. I now feel like a dino.
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Post by gary on Feb 16, 2016 13:50:34 GMT -5
i imagine, yuck how horrible. Even fax machines caused some hassles. i remember the delightful fax an opposing counsel just happened to send when i took time off for my wedding that they knew all about, how i "miss" those days.... It used to cost $2 per page to fax - I can remember the manager of office services checking in to confirm if we really needed to fax things. AND we had a WATS line, plus a computer program that allowed us to convert to the regular rates to charge the clients extra for long distance calls. The WATS line was never available on Mondays during football season because the attorneys were too busy contacting teams to confirm line-ups for next week's fantasy football. I also remember the bicycle messengers in the lobby at 4:45 to race stuff over to the courthouse before the clerk's office closed at 5 - before electronic filing the streets and sidewalks by the courthouse were dangerous right before 5. I now feel like a dino. Do you remember IBM Selectric typewriters and dictaphones? I do.
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Post by moopigsdad on Feb 16, 2016 13:57:55 GMT -5
Wow, don't know what to do with myself now. Getting accused of being a "tad hyperbolic" on an internet message board. Thank the almighty we have such wonderful self appointed gatekeepers to call out such major transgressions. Consider yourself lucky, Honorable Judge Funky, you could have been accused of being completely hyperbolic with your post rather than only a tad hyperbolic.
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Post by gary on Feb 16, 2016 14:04:12 GMT -5
Wow, don't know what to do with myself now. Getting accused of being a "tad hyperbolic" on an internet message board. Thank the almighty we have such wonderful self appointed gatekeepers to call out such major transgressions. Consider yourself lucky, Honorable Judge Funky, you could have been accused of being completely hyperbolic with your post rather than only a tad hyperbolic. And at least you weren't called a chicken deboner, though on Funky Farm, who knows?
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Post by keepsake on Feb 16, 2016 14:59:34 GMT -5
The understatement was meant to match the intended overstatement of the comment .... ? Don't know what the mean - was supposed to be smiley face with a wink.
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Post by keepsake on Feb 16, 2016 15:01:33 GMT -5
Now it's really messed up. I blame it on the iPhone
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Post by privateatty on Feb 16, 2016 17:03:45 GMT -5
Mention has been made of expensive faxes, IBM selectrics and of course the advent of the walkie talkie like "cell phone".
What has really changed of course is a different type of practice where service was mail or fedex or personal delivery. You did not bombard opposing counsel with 100 pages of Memoranda in Opposition on a Friday night by fax. Legal research was relegated to the County Law Library as that was the only place that had the books. Law books, what a concept, eh?
I miss the long hallways filled with dust and the slight mildew odor. The incredible quiet and the genteel nature of the librarians. Everyone wanted to help. I miss the "hunt of the chase" that seemed a lot more Sherlock Holmesian than today's boolean search. Computer research has leveled the playing field, make no mistake. It is a good thing. But I do miss the books. Ah, we are old futs.
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Post by Gaidin on Feb 16, 2016 17:06:19 GMT -5
Mention has been made of expensive faxes, IBM selectrics and of course the advent of the walkie talkie like "cell phone". What has really changed of course is a different type of practice where service was mail or fedex or personal delivery. You did not bombard opposing counsel with 100 pages of Memoranda in Opposition on a Friday night. Legal research was relegated to the County Law Library as that was the only place that had the books. Law books, what a concept, eh? I miss the long hallways filled with dust and the slight mildew odor. The incredible quiet and the genteel nature of the librarians. Everyone wanted to help. I miss the "hunt of the chase" that seemed a lot more Sherlock Holmesian than today's boolean search. Computer research has leveled the playing field, make no mistake. And we are old futs. boolean search? You haven't tried the new Westlaw or Lexis? Its like using Google. I honestly don't know how a person graduating from law school only using these techniques could find a case in an obscure reporter in an actual law library.
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Post by privateatty on Feb 16, 2016 17:15:34 GMT -5
Mention has been made of expensive faxes, IBM selectrics and of course the advent of the walkie talkie like "cell phone". What has really changed of course is a different type of practice where service was mail or fedex or personal delivery. You did not bombard opposing counsel with 100 pages of Memoranda in Opposition on a Friday night. Legal research was relegated to the County Law Library as that was the only place that had the books. Law books, what a concept, eh? I miss the long hallways filled with dust and the slight mildew odor. The incredible quiet and the genteel nature of the librarians. Everyone wanted to help. I miss the "hunt of the chase" that seemed a lot more Sherlock Holmesian than today's boolean search. Computer research has leveled the playing field, make no mistake. And we are old futs. boolean search? You haven't tried the new Westlaw or Lexis? Its like using Google. I honestly don't know how a person graduating from law school only using these techniques could find a case in an obscure reporter in an actual law library. No, I've been here too long. And I have peoples...
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Post by ba on Feb 16, 2016 17:24:20 GMT -5
Mention has been made of expensive faxes, IBM selectrics and of course the advent of the walkie talkie like "cell phone". What has really changed of course is a different type of practice where service was mail or fedex or personal delivery. You did not bombard opposing counsel with 100 pages of Memoranda in Opposition on a Friday night by fax. Legal research was relegated to the County Law Library as that was the only place that had the books. Law books, what a concept, eh? I miss the long hallways filled with dust and the slight mildew odor. The incredible quiet and the genteel nature of the librarians. Everyone wanted to help. I miss the "hunt of the chase" that seemed a lot more Sherlock Holmesian than today's boolean search. Computer research has leveled the playing field, make no mistake. It is a good thing. But I do miss the books. Ah, we are old futs. Ugh. Sheppards the old fashioned way was downright painful.
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Post by chinook on Feb 16, 2016 17:49:57 GMT -5
Although it was not a law office, when I first got out of the army, there were no copy machines. Secretaries, who could take dictation, used carbon paper to produce more than one copy.
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