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Post by Topperlaw on Oct 13, 2021 13:41:34 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way that this mandate survives as it is absolutely NOT narrowly tailored as they are going to be forcing government contractors/employees to get vaccinated EVEN IF they never leave their home...that's not narrowly tailored. Also, there's no "compelling interest" to force people to vaccinate who already have antibodies/natural immunity from getting COVID. The complete ignoring of natural immunity is the most dumbfounding part of the entire situation. Without a carve-out for natural immunity/people who've already contracted COVID, I see no way that Thomas/Kavanaugh/Alito/etc. find the mandate Constitutional.
As an aside, natural immunity is obviously pouring over the children of our country. I live in a Red State where last school year masking, and social distancing were required. We got announcements 4 out of 5 days a week that a Kid had tested positive and x number of children (usually 20-30) were exposed and needed to quarantine. By 2 weeks before Thanksgiving, it had gotten so bad that they shut every school in the district down and sent kids home for 5 weeks. That was with masks and with social distancing. Guess what the standard is this year??? No masks and no social distancing even though the kids aren't vaccinated. This school year from day one 7 weeks ago to today, we've had a grand total of 2 announced positive tests (and that's across a grade school and a middle school that my kids attend). These kids all got COVID last school year, were asymptomatic, and now have immunity (IMHO). I'm not a scientist nor do I play one on TV, but what exactly could explain the difference otherwise. With no masks and no social distance, Delta should absolutely be ravaging my kids' schools.
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Post by jimmy224 on Oct 13, 2021 15:06:22 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way that this mandate survives as it is absolutely NOT narrowly tailored as they are going to be forcing government contractors/employees to get vaccinated EVEN IF they never leave their home...that's not narrowly tailored. Also, there's no "compelling interest" to force people to vaccinate who already have antibodies/natural immunity from getting COVID. The complete ignoring of natural immunity is the most dumbfounding part of the entire situation. Without a carve-out for natural immunity/people who've already contracted COVID, I see no way that Thomas/Kavanaugh/Alito/etc. find the mandate Constitutional. As an aside, natural immunity is obviously pouring over the children of our country. I live in a Red State where last school year masking, and social distancing were required. We got announcements 4 out of 5 days a week that a Kid had tested positive and x number of children (usually 20-30) were exposed and needed to quarantine. By 2 weeks before Thanksgiving, it had gotten so bad that they shut every school in the district down and sent kids home for 5 weeks. That was with masks and with social distancing. Guess what the standard is this year??? No masks and no social distancing even though the kids aren't vaccinated. This school year from day one 7 weeks ago to today, we've had a grand total of 2 announced positive tests (and that's across a grade school and a middle school that my kids attend). These kids all got COVID last school year, were asymptomatic, and now have immunity (IMHO). I'm not a scientist nor do I play one on TV, but what exactly could explain the difference otherwise. With no masks and no social distance, Delta should absolutely be ravaging my kids' schools. You might have to occasionally come into the office for computer issues or badging issues, though |
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Post by badger on Oct 13, 2021 15:37:17 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way that this mandate survives as it is absolutely NOT narrowly tailored as they are going to be forcing government contractors/employees to get vaccinated EVEN IF they never leave their home...that's not narrowly tailored. Also, there's no "compelling interest" to force people to vaccinate who already have antibodies/natural immunity from getting COVID. The complete ignoring of natural immunity is the most dumbfounding part of the entire situation. Without a carve-out for natural immunity/people who've already contracted COVID, I see no way that Thomas/Kavanaugh/Alito/etc. find the mandate Constitutional. As an aside, natural immunity is obviously pouring over the children of our country. I live in a Red State where last school year masking, and social distancing were required. We got announcements 4 out of 5 days a week that a Kid had tested positive and x number of children (usually 20-30) were exposed and needed to quarantine. By 2 weeks before Thanksgiving, it had gotten so bad that they shut every school in the district down and sent kids home for 5 weeks. That was with masks and with social distancing. Guess what the standard is this year??? No masks and no social distancing even though the kids aren't vaccinated. This school year from day one 7 weeks ago to today, we've had a grand total of 2 announced positive tests (and that's across a grade school and a middle school that my kids attend). These kids all got COVID last school year, were asymptomatic, and now have immunity (IMHO). I'm not a scientist nor do I play one on TV, but what exactly could explain the difference otherwise. With no masks and no social distance, Delta should absolutely be ravaging my kids' schools. Maybe you should look at the data from the scientists because you're making facts up. Children under 18 have made up 24% of covid cases in the nation in the last week and are only 22% of the population. Plus, just looking at Kentucky (state in your avatar) shows that in September "the state has recorded over 26,000 cases in kids 18 and under and an average of 59 children hospitalized each day, making it the most dangerous month for children since the pandemic began. Only Ohio, Montana and Alabama had higher hospitalization rates so far this month." kycir.org/2021/09/24/ky-has-fourth-highest-rate-of-kids-hospitalized-with-covid-19/ |
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Post by hopefalj on Oct 13, 2021 15:39:20 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way that this mandate survives as it is absolutely NOT narrowly tailored as they are going to be forcing government contractors/employees to get vaccinated EVEN IF they never leave their home...that's not narrowly tailored. Also, there's no "compelling interest" to force people to vaccinate who already have antibodies/natural immunity from getting COVID. The complete ignoring of natural immunity is the most dumbfounding part of the entire situation. Without a carve-out for natural immunity/people who've already contracted COVID, I see no way that Thomas/Kavanaugh/Alito/etc. find the mandate Constitutional. As an aside, natural immunity is obviously pouring over the children of our country. I live in a Red State where last school year masking, and social distancing were required. We got announcements 4 out of 5 days a week that a Kid had tested positive and x number of children (usually 20-30) were exposed and needed to quarantine. By 2 weeks before Thanksgiving, it had gotten so bad that they shut every school in the district down and sent kids home for 5 weeks. That was with masks and with social distancing. Guess what the standard is this year??? No masks and no social distancing even though the kids aren't vaccinated. This school year from day one 7 weeks ago to today, we've had a grand total of 2 announced positive tests (and that's across a grade school and a middle school that my kids attend). These kids all got COVID last school year, were asymptomatic, and now have immunity (IMHO). I'm not a scientist nor do I play one on TV, but what exactly could explain the difference otherwise. With no masks and no social distance, Delta should absolutely be ravaging my kids' schools. What is the protected class that requires the EO to incorporate narrow tailoring and a compelling interest? I’m genuinely curious. |
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Post by Topperlaw on Oct 13, 2021 17:07:57 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way that this mandate survives as it is absolutely NOT narrowly tailored as they are going to be forcing government contractors/employees to get vaccinated EVEN IF they never leave their home...that's not narrowly tailored. Also, there's no "compelling interest" to force people to vaccinate who already have antibodies/natural immunity from getting COVID. The complete ignoring of natural immunity is the most dumbfounding part of the entire situation. Without a carve-out for natural immunity/people who've already contracted COVID, I see no way that Thomas/Kavanaugh/Alito/etc. find the mandate Constitutional. As an aside, natural immunity is obviously pouring over the children of our country. I live in a Red State where last school year masking, and social distancing were required. We got announcements 4 out of 5 days a week that a Kid had tested positive and x number of children (usually 20-30) were exposed and needed to quarantine. By 2 weeks before Thanksgiving, it had gotten so bad that they shut every school in the district down and sent kids home for 5 weeks. That was with masks and with social distancing. Guess what the standard is this year??? No masks and no social distancing even though the kids aren't vaccinated. This school year from day one 7 weeks ago to today, we've had a grand total of 2 announced positive tests (and that's across a grade school and a middle school that my kids attend). These kids all got COVID last school year, were asymptomatic, and now have immunity (IMHO). I'm not a scientist nor do I play one on TV, but what exactly could explain the difference otherwise. With no masks and no social distance, Delta should absolutely be ravaging my kids' schools. What is the protected class that requires the EO to incorporate narrow tailoring and a compelling interest? I’m genuinely curious. I was responding to the Pumpkin/Stevil discussion above where they discussed "narrowly tailored" and "compelling interest." I didn't research what the standard is. Looks like the Occupational Health and Safety Act of 1970 will look at whether COVID is a "grave danger" in the workplace and whether the emergency regulation is "necessary." It wasn't a "grave danger" for the past 16 months when no such regulation was issued/apparently necessary. So why now in October 2021 is COVID suddenly a "grave danger." In fact the 7-day rolling average of cases shows that in just 40 days new cases have dropped from 167,000 cases a day to only 89,000 cases a day (that's a nearly 50% decline in 40 days). www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ Also, why is a vaccine mandate that does not take into account natural immunity and that doesn't make an exception for employees who are doing all of their work from home "necessary," and how is COVID in the workplace a "grave danger" to employees who work entirely from home or to younger employees who are already vaccinated. Wouldn't a targeted regulation that carves out exceptions especially for those who work from home be on stronger ground. I'm still wondering, too, what 5 Constitutional Conservatives (Federalist Society Types like are on the bench right now) might think about the issue of States rights or what they might think about the administrative state (I'm guessing that they are strong supporters of state's rights and strong haters of the administrative state...just a guess though). Might they perhaps take this opportunity to obliterate Chevron Deference, for instance. |
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Post by nylawyer on Oct 13, 2021 19:01:19 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way that this mandate survives as it is absolutely NOT narrowly tailored as they are going to be forcing government contractors/employees to get vaccinated EVEN IF they never leave their home...that's not narrowly tailored. Also, there's no "compelling interest" to force people to vaccinate who already have antibodies/natural immunity from getting COVID. The complete ignoring of natural immunity is the most dumbfounding part of the entire situation. Without a carve-out for natural immunity/people who've already contracted COVID, I see no way that Thomas/Kavanaugh/Alito/etc. find the mandate Constitutional. As an aside, natural immunity is obviously pouring over the children of our country. I live in a Red State where last school year masking, and social distancing were required. We got announcements 4 out of 5 days a week that a Kid had tested positive and x number of children (usually 20-30) were exposed and needed to quarantine. By 2 weeks before Thanksgiving, it had gotten so bad that they shut every school in the district down and sent kids home for 5 weeks. That was with masks and with social distancing. Guess what the standard is this year??? No masks and no social distancing even though the kids aren't vaccinated. This school year from day one 7 weeks ago to today, we've had a grand total of 2 announced positive tests (and that's across a grade school and a middle school that my kids attend). These kids all got COVID last school year, were asymptomatic, and now have immunity (IMHO). I'm not a scientist nor do I play one on TV, but what exactly could explain the difference otherwise. With no masks and no social distance, Delta should absolutely be ravaging my kids' schools. Maybe you should look at the data from the scientists because you're making facts up. Children under 18 have made up 24% of covid cases in the nation in the last week and are only 22% of the population. Plus, just looking at Kentucky (state in your avatar) shows that in September "the state has recorded over 26,000 cases in kids 18 and under and an average of 59 children hospitalized each day, making it the most dangerous month for children since the pandemic began. Only Ohio, Montana and Alabama had higher hospitalization rates so far this month." kycir.org/2021/09/24/ky-has-fourth-highest-rate-of-kids-hospitalized-with-covid-19/So, you are refuting his/her personal anectodotal experience that the district has had two cases as being "made up" by citing a statistic that shows a little over one in 100,000 children in Kentucky was hospitalized in September? |
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Post by badger on Oct 13, 2021 19:16:23 GMT -5
Maybe you should look at the data from the scientists because you're making facts up. Children under 18 have made up 24% of covid cases in the nation in the last week and are only 22% of the population. Plus, just looking at Kentucky (state in your avatar) shows that in September "the state has recorded over 26,000 cases in kids 18 and under and an average of 59 children hospitalized each day, making it the most dangerous month for children since the pandemic began. Only Ohio, Montana and Alabama had higher hospitalization rates so far this month." kycir.org/2021/09/24/ky-has-fourth-highest-rate-of-kids-hospitalized-with-covid-19/So, you are refuting his/her personal anectodotal experience that the district has had two cases as being "made up" by citing a statistic that shows a little over one in 100,000 children in Kentucky was hospitalized in September? I'm refuting what is implied with: "As an aside, natural immunity is obviously pouring over the children of our country." |
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Post by jagvet on Oct 13, 2021 19:42:59 GMT -5
Gee whiz. Nazi and communist analogies! Can't you just see that some people are not eager to share health info with Uncle Sam? If you demonize people for not wanting to share their medical history, you're not likely to have much influence on their decision-making as to vaccines. I am pro-vaccine, but I think there are serious privacy issues here. With better messages from the WH and CDC, I think we would have had more people get vaccines long ago. When Pres says get the vaccine and you won't get COVID (said in May and June 2021), that exaggeration causes people to distrust the whole process when it is clearly wrong. I trust Big Pharma more than Big Politicians. How's that for a switch? Oddly anti-government for a federal employee. I was happy to do my civic duty and proud to share that information with my employer. Does privacy take precedence over public safety? The US government has a duty to protect its citizens from death and disease, and this mandate is geared towards just that, how else do you expect the government to achieve this goal? Personally, I'd rather have "Uncle Sam" implant a camera in my rear end than continue to watch Americans die while stuck at home year after year. This crisis is beyond half-measures. The current administration is doing the best it can with the information it has as the situation evolves. The incidence of breakthrough infections was thought to be rare, eventually we learned it was less rare than we originally thought. Sorry if changing circumstances are difficult for some to understand. The messaging from the previous administration (and right-wing media) is clearly the issue here. Did Trump get vaccinated on TV? No. Is he a vocal proponent of vaccination? No. Do Tucker and Sean rail against vaccine mandates every night? Yes. Skepticism is healthy, cynicism is dangerous. Any plans to watch Dopesick? Might change your opinion on Big Pharma. Do you know why HIPPA was enacted? The idea was to protect patient privacy. During the AIDS crisis early years, employees who were HIV positive were fired because employers thought it could be communicated by casual contact. How is it "anti-government" to respect federal employees' privacy? Why is it "anti-government" to ask our leaders to be truthful with us? Remember the 70% herd immunity? The July 4th promise? The vaccine equals no-mask promise? I don't live in a "red" state, and my state's numbers are bad. Do you know that New England states are now seeing high hospitalizations? Please. Let's be civil. There is still a pandemic. It needs to be over. We all need to be vaccinated. Less hyperbole. |
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Post by pumpkin on Oct 13, 2021 19:59:10 GMT -5
[/quote]What is the protected class that requires the EO to incorporate narrow tailoring and a compelling interest? I’m genuinely curious. [/quote]
I was thinking more of the “fundamental right” side of strict scrutiny, rather than a protected class. Is there a fundamental right to privacy? Is there a fundamental right to be free from the battery of a non-consensual vaccination?
The Constitutional scholars on this Board would likely point out that strict scrutiny applies to a “law” and not necessarily to an executive order.
I am fully vaccinated. I completed my vaccination survey online and uploaded my documents. It did not cause me any grief to comply.
I am confident this will be litigated. I think the vaccine mandate and reporting requirements will withstand strict scrutiny. I could be wrong. I have been wrong before - just ask the Appeals Council.
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Post by Happy_in_KS on Oct 14, 2021 1:57:42 GMT -5
Oddly anti-government for a federal employee. I was happy to do my civic duty and proud to share that information with my employer. Does privacy take precedence over public safety? The US government has a duty to protect its citizens from death and disease, and this mandate is geared towards just that, how else do you expect the government to achieve this goal? Personally, I'd rather have "Uncle Sam" implant a camera in my rear end than continue to watch Americans die while stuck at home year after year. This crisis is beyond half-measures. The current administration is doing the best it can with the information it has as the situation evolves. The incidence of breakthrough infections was thought to be rare, eventually we learned it was less rare than we originally thought. Sorry if changing circumstances are difficult for some to understand. The messaging from the previous administration (and right-wing media) is clearly the issue here. Did Trump get vaccinated on TV? No. Is he a vocal proponent of vaccination? No. Do Tucker and Sean rail against vaccine mandates every night? Yes. Skepticism is healthy, cynicism is dangerous. Any plans to watch Dopesick? Might change your opinion on Big Pharma. Do you know why HIPPA was enacted? The idea was to protect patient privacy. During the AIDS crisis early years, employees who were HIV positive were fired because employers thought it could be communicated by casual contact. How is it "anti-government" to respect federal employees' privacy? Why is it "anti-government" to ask our leaders to be truthful with us? Remember the 70% herd immunity? The July 4th promise? The vaccine equals no-mask promise? I don't live in a "red" state, and my state's numbers are bad. Do you know that New England states are now seeing high hospitalizations? Please. Let's be civil. There is still a pandemic. It needs to be over. We all need to be vaccinated. Less hyperbole. Not sure what I said that was uncivilized (probably the rear end thing), but in the interests of civilized discourse, I’ll agree with you that we all need to be vaccinated. My point was that by making life onerous for anti-vaxxers we’re doing just that, attempting to get everyone vaccinated. We’ve seen that some folks won’t be persuaded by science, medical professionals, or even free stuff. They feel this is their personal medical decision to make alone (rather than a public health emergency that we need to tackle as a society) and respecting their privacy emboldens them. It allows them to maintain their status among polite society and continue to infect us all (literally). My issue is that you seem to lay the blame for these entitled anti-vaxxers squarely at the feet of the current administration. If only they’d been more honest with these right-wing lunatics and maybe they would have gotten the jab. Why not acknowledge the years that the GOP has spent sowing anti-intellectualism, anti-science, and distrust in government? Biden and company can’t be blamed for the years of groundwork laid by the Republican Party. And again what does it matter if the current administration is perfectly honest about every emerging detail when right-wing media is twisting and distorting the truth directly to the unvaccinated? How does one reach people who are caught in a right-wing echo chamber? Constantly mired in misinformation? It’s not possible, you just have to try and force them to get the jab any way you can. This mandate is one of those ways. I do not recall the AIDS crisis (if I admit I wasn’t born yet, will that discredit my argument?), but I recall the state of this country post-9/11. When the Patriot Act was enacted and re-authorized over and over again, I recall a lot of conservatives saying “well so long as you’re not involved in illegal activity, you have nothing to fear.” It is ok to invade people’s privacy if it is in the name of killing strange brown foreigners, but it is not okay to invade people’s privacy to ensure that we all take a lifesaving vaccine? What? This pandemic has killed far more people than 9/11 or any other terrorist attack, or even the resulting wars in the Middle East. Why can’t we combat this pandemic with the same gusto we employed against strange brown foreigners? I’m just asking questions here. To me it sounds like you’ve misconstrued the administration’s aspirational rhetoric as hard and fast promises. I don’t think Biden or anyone else could genuinely anticipate just how many people would resist this miracle of modern medicine. To a scientifically literate person, it’s absolutely baffling. I believe the current administration is staffed by human beings who are just trying to do their best with the information available to them at the time, but you’ve seemingly attributed malice to their actions, which feels somewhat vaguely conspiratorial. But honestly we’re probably on the same page for the most part. And most importantly you’ve gotten the jab, which means you’re not too far gone down the rabbit hole. I didn’t realize Topperlaw would hop in here and start talking about natural immunity (hinting at a resistance to vaccination) and therefore making you position seem quite reasonable in contrast. I shudder to think that the ALJ corps is host to more than a few anti-vaxxers, we can’t afford to lose any judges as it is (unless, ya know, TPTB actually started hiring more *gasp*). And I appreciate the nuanced discussion of how the mandate might fair before the Supreme Court. My prayers will be focused on asking that Roberts is successful in convincing Gorsuch (or one of the other conservatives) to do the right thing. In all sincerity, I do not mean to come across as barbaric or to cause offense, I just think it’s healthy to challenge our preconceived notions and point out internal inconsistencies (I think we even have a training coming up on a similar topic actually). Trust me, I’m not delusional, I don’t think Biden is perfect be any means, I just think he’s doing a fair bit better than the previous administration (plus no attempted coups thus far, so that is nice). Hope y’all take care have a good rest of your day 👍 |
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Post by stevil on Oct 14, 2021 6:43:20 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what are the acceptable religious and medical exceptions to getting vaccinated?
Are we going to be informed which employees that we rub elbows with are not vaccinated so we can take proper precautionary measures?
Does anyone have a "right" to work from home because they don't want to be vaccinated?
Is there a source detailing what, if any, side effects have been scientifically linked to the vaccines - other than anecdotal internet chatter?
Also, anyone want to take bets on COVID spiking again 10 days to 2-weeks after Thanksgiving?
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Post by generalsherman on Oct 14, 2021 7:00:04 GMT -5
All I know is that a vast majority of the people in the media or on the internet against vaccines, saying they are harmful, etc. are themselves vaccinated.
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Post by aljnoobie on Oct 14, 2021 12:37:09 GMT -5
Just wondering - if it is so important to be vaccinated (and I am btw) than why a)is the rest of of the free world accepting immunity from prior Covid exposure/positive test as an alternative to a vaccine, and b) why isn’t the entire US postal system required to be vaccinated as a condition of employment (or congress/staffers for that matter). Hint - guess which federal union was opposed to mandatory vaccinations? Politics have been infused into this issue by both sides - especially by the “leaders” who ignore their own rules and thereby vitiate their own argument/position.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Happy_in_KS on Oct 14, 2021 13:37:40 GMT -5
Just wondering - if it is so important to be vaccinated (and I am btw) than why a)is the rest of of the free world accepting immunity from prior Covid exposure/positive test as an alternative to a vaccine, and b) why isn’t the entire US postal system required to be vaccinated as a condition of employment (or congress/staffers for that matter). Hint - guess which federal union was opposed to mandatory vaccinations? Politics have been infused into this issue by both sides - especially by the “leaders” who ignore their own rules and thereby vitiate their own argument/position. Just my 2 cents. Postal workers aren't exempt, see -> www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/16/fact-check-postal-workers-follow-osha-vaccine-guidance/8295566002/And your claim that "the rest of of the free world accepting immunity from prior Covid exposure/positive test as an alternative to a vaccine" has no source, I tried to briefly research it and could not find any results. Can you provide any sort of source for this assertion? Thanks, |
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Post by toast4u on Oct 14, 2021 14:33:53 GMT -5
Just wondering - if it is so important to be vaccinated (and I am btw) than why a)is the rest of of the free world accepting immunity from prior Covid exposure/positive test as an alternative to a vaccine, and b) why isn’t the entire US postal system required to be vaccinated as a condition of employment (or congress/staffers for that matter). Hint - guess which federal union was opposed to mandatory vaccinations? Politics have been infused into this issue by both sides - especially by the “leaders” who ignore their own rules and thereby vitiate their own argument/position. Just my 2 cents. A quick search using reputable sources indicates that antibody tests that are currently available have a high rate of false positives and false negatives. Thus, they're unreliable as proof of immunity. www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/resources/antibody-tests-guidelines.html Further, I'm not certain if it has been established quantitatvely what level of antibodies establishes immunity. I'm too lazy to do more research. Even if a certain level guaranteed immunity, how often would one be required to test for waning antibodies? Should the government pay for antibody testing? I think there are still too many unknowns regarding antibodies but perhaps at some point in the future acquired immunity from past disease may be an alternative to vaccination. |
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Post by Happy_in_KS on Oct 14, 2021 16:01:19 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what are the acceptable religious and medical exceptions to getting vaccinated? Are we going to be informed which employees that we rub elbows with are not vaccinated so we can take proper precautionary measures? Does anyone have a "right" to work from home because they don't want to be vaccinated? Is there a source detailing what, if any, side effects have been scientifically linked to the vaccines - other than anecdotal internet chatter? Also, anyone want to take bets on COVID spiking again 10 days to 2-weeks after Thanksgiving? I want to know the answers to these questions as well, if we ever go back to the office, I want to know who is unvaccinated so I can avoid them (like the plague). I will absolutely take that bet btw, given that COVID has a defined two-month cycle (which is unfortunately still poorly understood) -> www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/briefing/covid-caseload-retreat-us-cases.htmlGuys, what is up with the high levels of right-wing misinformation on this board? It is kind of nuts. |
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Post by jimmy224 on Oct 14, 2021 17:11:43 GMT -5
Have you guys got your booster shot yet? I submitted my vaccine information on the site, and there was an option for booster. I think in Israel they now are saying not fully vaccinated unless 3 shots? Where you live are they asking for vaccine cards for entering salons gyms etc? Is there some sort f fast pass system for vaccine verification?
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Post by Pixie on Oct 14, 2021 17:54:46 GMT -5
The nature of this thread means it will get political. While we usually steer away from politics, it is probably unavoidable here. Let's stay civil.
I haven't had to make any comments about the lowly apostrophe in a while. Most of the long term members have caught on, but one new member above has missed my, by now, dreaded comments. So, I will repeat: In the English language, plural nouns are not formed by adding "apostrophe s ( 's )." A simple "s" will suffice.
Now with that in mind, let's continue the discussion's.
Oh, and while I am on pet peeves, remember that Application Manager may only be mentioned in its own dedicated thread. Pixie
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Post by Happy_in_KS on Oct 14, 2021 18:11:05 GMT -5
The nature of this thread means it will get political. While we usually steer away from politics, it is probably unavoidable here. Let's stay civil. I haven't had to make any comments about the lowly apostrophe in a while. Most of the long term members have caught on, but one new member above has missed my, by now, dreaded comments. So, I will repeat: In the English language, plural nouns are not formed by adding "apostrophe s ( 's )." A simple "s" will suffice. Now with that in mind, let's continue the discussion's. Oh, and while I am on pet peeves, remember that Application Manager may only be mentioned in its own dedicated thread. Pixie Duly noted Judge, corrections have been made to the offending posts, my sincerest apologies. |
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Post by Pixie on Oct 14, 2021 18:50:19 GMT -5
No need to apologize. You are new here and don't know the history. Now you know about the apostrophe. It has taken us years to get to the point where it isn't abused on a regular basis.
You also ought to go through the A______tion Ma__ger thread and read all 80+ pages in that obsessive piece of work. Then you will know a bit more of the history of this board.
Enjoy, Pixie
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