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Post by Legal Beagle on May 14, 2009 12:22:11 GMT -5
To continue with the reports from the NOSSCR Conference, here are the points that Charles Hall has just posted that he picked up from Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue's speech:
• 157 new Administrative Law Judges (ALJs) are bing hired this month -- in the next week or so. • Another 208 ALJs are to be hired before the end of the next fiscal year (September 30, 2010), with perhaps 55 of those to be hired in September of this year (which would still be in this fiscal year). • Finding enough office space for additional ALJs is a problem which could hold back some hiring. • Social Security is now aiming for 1,400 to 1,450 ALJs total. • Social Security now has goal of an average ratio of 4.5 staff to each ALJ. • Astrue expects to open 14 additional hearing offices in FY 2010.
Posted By Social Security News to Social Security News at 5/14/2009 12:35:00 PM
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Post by pm on May 16, 2009 18:52:53 GMT -5
Does anyone know all 14 of the new hearing offices?
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Post by lamplighter on May 16, 2009 21:24:55 GMT -5
There's Dancer and Dasher and Prancer and Vixen.
Comet and Cupid and Donder and Blitzen.
Wait - that's only eight
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Post by morgullord on May 17, 2009 14:15:01 GMT -5
The information is, I believe, posted elsewhere
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Post by ssaer on May 17, 2009 18:28:51 GMT -5
Does anyone know all 14 of the new hearing offices? On 4/29/09, Legal Beagle posted the following list of the then-contemplated 13 new offices: St. Petersburg, FL; Tallahassee, FL; Atlanta South, GA; Topeka, KS; Mt. Pleasant, MI; Livonia, MI; Akron, OH; Toledo, OH; Fayetteville, NC; Madison, WI; Auburn, WA; Phoenix, AZ; and either Danville or Portage, IN.
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Post by zero on May 20, 2009 9:00:52 GMT -5
Excuse me for asking a question that has probably already been answered. Will the 208 new hires/14 new offices take place using this list or will OPM start over with a new list? If OPM uses this list, is there any chance of OPM expanding the list with another announcement? To continue with the reports from the NOSSCR Conference, here are the points that Charles Hall has just posted that he picked up from Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue's speech: • 157 new Administrative Law Judges (ALJs) are bing hired this month -- in the next week or so. • Another 208 ALJs are to be hired before the end of the next fiscal year (September 30, 2010), with perhaps 55 of those to be hired in September of this year (which would still be in this fiscal year). • Finding enough office space for additional ALJs is a problem which could hold back some hiring. • Social Security is now aiming for 1,400 to 1,450 ALJs total. • Social Security now has goal of an average ratio of 4.5 staff to each ALJ. • Astrue expects to open 14 additional hearing offices in FY 2010. Posted By Social Security News to Social Security News at 5/14/2009 12:35:00 PM
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Post by carjack on May 20, 2009 9:48:43 GMT -5
I think the consensus is that OPM will try to avoid another announcement before October 2010 when the registry expires and after which everyone will have to reapply and retest through OPM when a new announcement is made. SSA will try to hire all of the ALJs it can before the end of the 2010 fiscal year - Sept 2010, so that all of the new hires would be off the existing registry. If you weren't reached this time, you might in Sept '09 or again next year. This is what I gleened from previous responses about this matter.
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Post by chieftain on May 20, 2009 10:18:53 GMT -5
There was a response on another thread within the last day or two that SSA has already asked OPM to reopen the register. No idea if OPM will do it.
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Post by pm on May 20, 2009 12:21:14 GMT -5
There was a response on another thread within the last day or two that SSA has already asked OPM to reopen the register. No idea if OPM will do it. That other post had no details, no rationale for such a request and nothing to render it reliable. The register has plenty of candidates and can easily accomodate the 200 or so more hires SSA is contemplating the next fiscal year. I doubt ODAR made the request and I can see no chance OPM would give any consideration to such a request.
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Post by pm on May 20, 2009 12:24:59 GMT -5
Excuse me for asking a question that has probably already been answered. Will the 208 new hires/14 new offices take place using this list or will OPM start over with a new list? If OPM uses this list, is there any chance of OPM expanding the list with another announcement? Carjack nailed it. It is highly unlikely OPM would reopen the register. There are plenty of candidates to accommodate SSA's planned hiring.
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Post by morgullord on May 20, 2009 12:40:47 GMT -5
But there is always the possibility that OPM may open the corral gate to let a few more in...
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Post by workdrone on May 20, 2009 12:42:26 GMT -5
But there is always the possibility that OPM may open the corral gate to let a few more in... Yup. Anything is possible. However, what is probable is much more limited.
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Post by privateatty on May 20, 2009 12:48:08 GMT -5
But there is always the possibility that OPM may open the corral gate to let a few more in... I'm going with carjack and pm. While we know ODAR wants to let in some favorite sons and daughters, I don't think they will get that chance.
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Post by chieftain on May 20, 2009 12:58:25 GMT -5
There was a response on another thread within the last day or two that SSA has already asked OPM to reopen the register. No idea if OPM will do it. That other post had no details, no rationale for such a request and nothing to render it reliable. The register has plenty of candidates and can easily accomodate the 200 or so more hires SSA is contemplating the next fiscal year. I doubt ODAR made the request and I can see no chance OPM would give any consideration to such a request. The other post came from Counsel, who has been a reliable poster on this board since the beginning, and who was selected last year. I would not be so quick to dismiss it. The question is whether OPM will stand on its original position that the current register expires in late 2010, in which case refreshing it again makes no sense, or if it decides to let the current register sit around a little while longer and simply refreshes it once in awhile. After this round of hires and next anticipated hire of 50-55 ALJs in September-October there will probably be about 600 names left on the register, which is enough to accommodate another cert for 150 hires, but will also include names that ODAR has picked through a couple of times (mine included). As much as I hate to say it, I would not be the least bit surprised if ODAR requests more candidates. OPM gave in once, they may do so again for a small number of applicants.
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Post by pm on May 20, 2009 12:58:51 GMT -5
But there is always the possibility that OPM may open the corral gate to let a few more in... The possibility always exists but just ask yourself, why would OPM do more work for the same pay? Much easier to start reopening next spring or summer in preparation for the demise of the register next fall.
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Post by Legal Beagle on May 20, 2009 13:44:50 GMT -5
THEY NEED TO GET ON WITH THESE HIRES BEFORE WORRYING ABOUT A NEW CERT OR SUBSEQUENT WAVES!!!!!!
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Post by morgullord on May 20, 2009 17:17:25 GMT -5
But there is always the possibility that OPM may open the corral gate to let a few more in... The possibility always exists but just ask yourself, why would OPM do more work for the same pay? Much easier to start reopening next spring or summer in preparation for the demise of the register next fall. Two words: desk audit.
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Post by rhino on May 20, 2009 19:34:59 GMT -5
There are plenty of candidates to accommodate SSA's planned hiring. Well, THAT rationale will not hold. There were plenty of candidates to accommodate THIS upcoming hire before OPM reopened the Register, upon SSA's request, in 2009.
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Post by pm on May 20, 2009 19:51:31 GMT -5
There are plenty of candidates to accommodate SSA's planned hiring. Well, THAT rationale will not hold. There were plenty of candidates to accommodate THIS upcoming hire before OPM reopened the Register, upon SSA's request, in 2009. If OPM had not reopened last year they would have had to reopen this year. Last year, there were NOT enough candidates to allow ODAR to hire 150 ALJs this spring and 200 next fiscal year. OPM knew they would have to reopen once beofre the register timed out. They did so.
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Post by jagghagg on May 21, 2009 3:31:47 GMT -5
The point is that there was enough on the Register to cover this hire last time - but SSA asked OPM to open anyway. With that opening, "there is enough" on the Register to cover this year and next fiscal year. But SSA will ask OPM to reopen (and will pay for it.) The candidates "left on" the Register are as qualified as those hired to date. But SSA has something else in mind - while reopening the Register has something to do with numbers, it is not the total numbers on the Register; it has to do with the KIND of numbers that SSA finds on the Register. OPM doesn't drive this; SSA does.
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