Anyone Heard Anything on Appeals?

[Deleted]

Hey,
Just wondering if anyone has heard anything on outstanding appeals? Any rumors on that front?

Patiently waiting for disappointment...;-)

[kingfisher]

Checked with another applicant awaiting appeal response. He has heard nothing by email, US Mail, or on Application Manager. Sorry.

[kinyago]

Nope. Still holding my breath.

[nadineoverton]

Any sense on how many appeals have been logged? I would be curious to know how many of the reported scores also appealed. Anyone who appealed a score above 70 should be shot on sight!

[arlene25]

I appealed my score. It was not above 70.

[zero]

I haven't heard anything on the appeal I filed in JULY! If OPM were any slower, they would be travelling backwards in time. I think it’s really unfair to wait until after all the jobs are filled to rule on the appeals. Justice delayed…

[barkley]

I have not even gotten a response on my FOIA filed in July, much less my appeal. This has been an eye opening process.

[zero]

OPM will deliver the answer to your FOIA in the snout of a flying pig. No sooner. Sorry.

[roggenbier]

My application was rejected because the raters could not verify my admittance to the Pennsylvania Bar. The best I could figure out was I had put my bar number down in my resume, but not in the question. I understand that some people, who had done the same thing were called back or had their appeal granted. I wanted to ask any of them who read this what more I can do, because this is clearly due to the failure of whoever or whatever rated my application.

[roggenbier]

Yes, I did file an appeal.

[tricia]

Roggen, there are several of us in this same boat.
For the question which asked for the state or states in which we are licensed, the license numbers and the dates on which we were first licensed, I gave them the state and the license number.
Because I did not give them the date, my application was rejected, apparently by a computer. It made no difference that it was apparent from my resume that I had started to practice in 1985. I immediately appealed, and have heard nothing about my appeal.
I believe that this is a common situation. I know that it is frustrating. We are seven months into this process, and no human being has looked at my application.

[roggenbier]

Tricia, I appreciate your comments, but I have also read that several people to whom our situation occurred, were contacted by OPM, they gave their numbers and then, took the test. Fair is fair. I don't see how they don't grant the appeals with conduct like that. Equal treatment for everybody. Hard to imagine some enterprising lawayer, not bringing a class action suit before MSPB for disparate treatment.

[tricia]

Roggen, I agree with you completely that we have been treated unfairly, very unfairly. But I am still hoping that this will be resolved soon.
I used to be involved in hiring in a government agency, and I know the attitude that we had toward people who had sued in an employment situation. Briefly stated, we didn't want to be their next defendant.

[zero]

I've heard the black-ball theory before and I don't think there is anything to it. Krauthammer's razor: Government's bad acts are most likely driven by incompetence, not conspiracy. Nobody tracks who complained about what. Unless it's in the memory of a specific processing official, they forget all about it. I’ve seen plenty of people cause lots of problems only to go on to get promoted elsewhere in the government.

[southernmiss]

Roggenbier:

Do you actually know the people who did not provide the bar info who got a call from OPM and took the test, or is it heresay?

I was one who did not put the date, and I have not heard anything. If, and that is a big if, if others have had thier appeals granted who made this mistake, it seems to me we can contact our legislators or something. Anyhow, who would we contact? Any suggestions from anyone?

As it stands now, if and when they get to our appeal, it will be too late.

[tricia]

Roggen said this:
"The best I could figure out was I had put my bar number down in my resume, but not in the question. I understand that some people, who had done the same thing were called back or had their appeal granted. I wanted to ask any of them who read this what more I can do, because this is clearly due to the failure of whoever or whatever rated my application."

Is this correct? What I had seen on this board was that people who had had a technical problem, such as the system failed to upload their resumes, had succeeded in their appeals, but I don't recall seeing that someone who failed to list their license number or date of licensure on the correct line has succeeded in an appeal.

[mrjones]

Yes, I know of at least one instance of a bar # appeal which was granted and the candidate was allowed to take the WD and do the SI. Candidate was not happy with final score, but that's another matter. Actually, it may be worthwhile to start a thread to see who had a last minute technical appeal granted, and what their final score was. The 3 I know of did not fare well, in the end.

[tricia]

Mr. Jones, Are you inferrring that the fact that these people had a last minute technical appeal granted caused them somehow to receive low scores?

[mrjones]

my sample is way to small to tell that. I've made the inference before that, based on the manner they randomly picked up a few technical appeals at the last minute, opm was just filling in vacant slots for their last week of WDs.

[jagghagg]

Given the fact that many (manymanymanymany) people who made it to the WD and SI WITHOUT having to go through an appeal of their application received some of those shockingly low scores, it would be folly to assume that a technical appeal somehow "blacklisted" their testing scores.