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Post by podar on Nov 16, 2007 21:06:18 GMT -5
Another possible scenario. At least one Cleveland position was on the certificate that went to OPM from the Office of Medicare Hearings (Or The Office of Medicare Hearings requested a list for 8(?) positions listing all of their offices as the potential locations for any or all of the positions), and Justfoundthisboard's name came over on the list. The Cleveland slot was subsequently filled with a transfer or a higher score (or Medicare Hearings decided not to add to the ALJ positions in Cleveland), but The Office of Medicare Hearings remained interested in Justfoundthisboard. So they gave it a shot to see if he would go to Irvine.
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Post by counselor95 on Nov 16, 2007 21:11:11 GMT -5
I just checked -- all four locations for Medicare Hearings Offices were listed on the ALJ vacancy announcement. So why wouldn't people who did list those locations get the call?
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Post by chris on Nov 16, 2007 21:16:50 GMT -5
Two possible scenarios:
they have gotten the call, but they're not on this board so we don't know.
they're calling people they want to move to try to get them to change locations before they schedule all of the interviews
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Post by chris on Nov 16, 2007 21:19:42 GMT -5
Another possible scenario. At least one Cleveland position was on the certificate that went to OPM from the Office of Medicare Hearings (Or The Office of Medicare Hearings requested a list for 8(?) positions listing all of their offices as the potential locations for any or all of the positions), and Justfoundthisboard's name came over on the list. The Cleveland slot was subsequently filled with a transfer or a higher score (or Medicare Hearings decided not to add to the ALJ positions in Cleveland), but The Office of Medicare Hearings remained interested in Justfoundthisboard. So they gave it a shot to see if he would go to Irvine. That's what I am saying above. Justfound is in the top 27 for DC or Cleveland. That's how they got his name. Now they are asking him if he's interested in Miami or Irvine because they don't have enough good candidates in those cities. |
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Post by chris on Nov 16, 2007 21:46:09 GMT -5
You're assuming there are lots of people with high scores who listed "all". That doesn't seem to be the case. That question has been asked on this board and the answers we did see tended to indicate that there aren't many people with high scores who listed "all." The people with the higher scores are more likely to have been more selective with their cities. This makes sense too. The people with higher scores tend to be older with more experience and are more settled in their lives and have more definite ideas about where they want to live and work. It's the younger applicants (generally speaking) that are willing to pack up and move anywhere but they are also the less experienced applicants so they generally tend to have lower scores.
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Post by chris on Nov 16, 2007 22:12:30 GMT -5
I think Workdrone may be right. I have been reading this intriguing thread with interest, and that is the conclusion I came to. At first I thought the screw up could have been with the hiring agency, but on reflection, it would have not received the name unless someone at OPM had put it on on the list. Time to leave for dinner. I will discuss this with my husband while we are out and see what he thinks. Although he doesn't have a lot of interest in this stuff. But then, what does he know? Pix. I don't think that there was a human mistake. OPM software generated the locations for which you are available based on your initial application. Once you input your cities in your application, they popped up automatically and immediately in your Application Manager Questionnaire Answers. Other than the input of scores, there was very little human input into the generation of the register. It was all done by OPM software. |
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Post by judicature on Nov 16, 2007 22:45:46 GMT -5
Chris - I would prefer human error - the other possibility is a little frightening for everyone.  |
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Post by podar on Nov 16, 2007 22:53:28 GMT -5
From the other board.
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OMHA has a certificate of 36 names for 12 positions. Cleveland and Arlington have few, if any slots, but Miami and Arlington need judges in roughly equal quantities. Good luck to you all.
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Post by emphyrio on Nov 17, 2007 0:09:56 GMT -5
How is it that Medicare is hiring under a Continuing Resolution, i.e., without a budget, but SSA is apparently not?
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Post by Pixie on Nov 17, 2007 0:20:59 GMT -5
They aren't hiring, just putting everything in place to do so. Plus, look at the number of judges they are contemplating hiring, only a few compared to SSA, and an insignificant bite of the budget.
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Post by judicature on Nov 17, 2007 0:23:02 GMT -5
What is a little scary is the prospect of computer error - a programming issue or an input issue that kicked out the wrong name for a particular certificate and perhaps didn't generate a name it should have.
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Post by Pixie on Nov 17, 2007 0:43:52 GMT -5
Yep. And there's not a thing you can do about it. That's why I like the idea of a clerical error at OPM. At least that will only occur every now and then and won't have any long term effect on a candidate's availability at another agency. Pix.
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Post by judicature on Nov 17, 2007 7:19:51 GMT -5
If there is anyone who listed Irvine and Miami as locations they would accept but has not received a call for an interview - could you please post along with your score so we could see roughly how deep the certificate went?
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Post by jagghagg on Nov 17, 2007 9:33:56 GMT -5
What happens if someone like justfoundthisboard HAD said he would take the interview (in a wild, what-the-heck attitude) with OHM - would he then never be referred for an SSA interview (which might be for a place he actually wanted to go ?
[BTW, with regard to chris' comment regarding those with higher scores - I think he may be right. I've been litigating for about 22 years and my score is probably enough to ensure I will get some sort of offer for an interview....and, indeed.....I didn't put "all" for my geographic locations.]
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Post by 3orangewhips on Nov 17, 2007 11:03:08 GMT -5
congrats to everyone who got contacted by HHS!!
(and I find it very interesting that a cert for 12 or so ALJ positions is reaching scores in the mid 70's)
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Post by mrnovember on Nov 17, 2007 11:10:32 GMT -5
Something else to think about:
When OMHA was created in 2005, the judges were specifically made "supervisory" judges, the clear intent of which was to make sure that were not eligible to join the AALJ (the union to which most alj's belong). You are assigned to a "team" consisting of an attorney, a paralegal, and a hearing assistant. You are nominally these folk's supervisor. In reality, you really have no say over promotions, dismissals, etc. You sign off on leave request and the like. You are a supervisor in name only.
The good news: if you are lucky enough to get a good team your job will be a cake walk. The attorney screens all the cases before you see them and really does all the hard work. The hearings are for the most part by phone (15-20 minutes, sometimes 30-45). A small percentage are done by VTC. These are still usually very short, but some of the wheelchair cases or cases involving evolving technology can last a few hours. Very rarely will you have an in-person hearing and there is virtually no travel.
If you are unlucky and get a "bad" team or just one bad apple, it can cause you untold headaches. Management will work with you to a certain extent to get rid of these folks and replace them with someone from the "pool".
Medicare seems to have more money to spend on office equipment, etc. than SSA. Plus, you get a $5,000 annual allotment to spend on Medicare-related training. They seem to have gotten a little more picky about what they will allow and you do not always get your first pick (e.g., several judges want to go to Florida during the winter for a seminar); local management may not let everyone go and it's usually first come, first served.).
IMO, the judges that want to leave Medicare for SSA do so for location-related reasons. The Miami office does not have a good reputation (management) and several have left there for greener pastures.
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Post by kolekole on Nov 17, 2007 11:29:22 GMT -5
If there is anyone who listed Irvine and Miami as locations they would accept but has not received a call for an interview - could you please post along with your score so we could see roughly how deep the certificate went? I listed Miami, have a 71.3, and my phone isn't ringing off the hook! |
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Post by learnedhand on Nov 17, 2007 12:37:47 GMT -5
This is done to take you out of the class of judges who are able to join AALJ.
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Post by govtattorney on Nov 17, 2007 13:50:19 GMT -5
great sell on cleveland, now my darkhouse opportunity is shot. but oh well, my 73 and i will find a home
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Post by jagghagg on Nov 18, 2007 6:18:49 GMT -5
I received a call from Cleveland to interview for positions with OMHA in Irvine and Miami as well. My score was 75.71 with veterans points. PrivateAttorney - Did you have Cleveland on your list of regions/cities to which you would "happily" go ? |
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