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Post by Well on Jun 21, 2010 14:10:50 GMT -5
Actually the important question is who will start offering first, SSA or the other agencies.
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Post by 71stretch on Jun 21, 2010 14:22:49 GMT -5
Actually the important question is who will start offering first, SSA or the other agencies. Yes it is. Those who are on both lists will have to make a choice, and if, say, OMHA goes first (which I suspect may happen just based on the numbers)and jobs are accepted there, if some of those folks were also on SSA's list of selectees, that opens up slots for others at SSA, which impacts a larger list... the reverse would also be true, but to a lesser extent.
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Post by Propmaster on Jun 21, 2010 17:06:40 GMT -5
Actually the important question is who will start offering first, SSA or the other agencies. Yes it is. Those who are on both lists will have to make a choice, and if, say, OMHA goes first (which I suspect may happen just based on the numbers)and jobs are accepted there, if some of those folks were also on SSA's list of selectees, that opens up slots for others at SSA, which impacts a larger list... the reverse would also be true, but to a lesser extent. It only opens up a slot if SSA finds out about it - and has time to adjust its calculations. What often happens is that the slot goes unfilled, and could be filled on a future cert. And I guess that might be what you meant, actually, that the slot will at some point be open. If so, sorry.
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Post by 71stretch on Jun 21, 2010 17:10:42 GMT -5
You know, I thought of that communication issue, and I'm not sure how they deal with that. It would be nice if govt agencies would communicate with each other about things like this and other issues, but we know that doesn't always happen. What would make sense is for the agency picking first to send its accepted offers over to the other... but what are the odds???
More likely that the slot will stay open until the next time around, I guess. Too bad.
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Post by workdrone on Jun 21, 2010 18:26:31 GMT -5
SSA is filling around 125. OMHA far fewer, but I don't know how many. OMHA is filling a handful. What I heard through the grapevine is around 5, but things might have changed since then, so don't quote me on it. As for when OMHA is likely to make its offers, if past history is any indication, they will do it a few weeks before ODAR make its offers. Additionally, considering the new CALJ of OMHA used to be the DCALJ of ODAR, it is likely she will send the final hired and accepted OMHA ALJ list over to ODAR as a courtesy so there is no wasted ODAR ALJ slot. Lastly, if anyone gets an offer from OMHA prior to ODAR, I highly recommend you take it. OMHA is a nice agency from what some of my friends who work there told me. And if you decline, there is no guarantee you will get any other ALJ offer. That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck!
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Post by 71stretch on Jun 21, 2010 19:59:08 GMT -5
SSA is filling around 125. OMHA far fewer, but I don't know how many. OMHA is filling a handful. What I heard through the grapevine is around 5, but things might have changed since then, so don't quote me on it. As for when OMHA is likely to make its offers, if past history is any indication, they will do it a few weeks before ODAR make its offers. Additionally, considering the new CALJ of OMHA used to be the DCALJ of ODAR, it is likely she will send the final hired and accepted OMHA ALJ list over to ODAR as a courtesy so there is no wasted ODAR ALJ slot. Lastly, if anyone gets an offer from OMHA prior to ODAR, I highly recommend you take it. OMHA is a nice agency from what some of my friends who work there told me. And if you decline, there is no guarantee you will get any other ALJ offer. That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck! I hope it works as you describe, so that the most possible SSA slots get filled.
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Post by privateatty on Jun 21, 2010 20:14:46 GMT -5
SSA is filling around 125. OMHA far fewer, but I don't know how many. OMHA is filling a handful. What I heard through the grapevine is around 5, but things might have changed since then, so don't quote me on it. As for when OMHA is likely to make its offers, if past history is any indication, they will do it a few weeks before ODAR make its offers. Additionally, considering the new CALJ of OMHA used to be the DCALJ of ODAR, it is likely she will send the final hired and accepted OMHA ALJ list over to ODAR as a courtesy so there is no wasted ODAR ALJ slot. Lastly, if anyone gets an offer from OMHA prior to ODAR, I highly recommend you take it. OMHA is a nice agency from what some of my friends who work there told me. And if you decline, there is no guarantee you will get any other ALJ offer. That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck! When I first started this in 2007, the 'drone was offering top shelf advice. I, too, have heard what he has heard.
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Post by bowser on Jun 22, 2010 8:41:51 GMT -5
I guess it is a little silly to ask as folk who know are unlikely to answer here, but is this the way it works? My understanding was that SSA would be allowing a very limited time - 24 hours - to accept or decline offers. If someone declines for whatever reason - whether they don't like the location, decided they don't want the job, or have accepted an offer from another agency - wouldn't SSA just extend the offer to the next person on the list (presuming there is someone who listed that location)?
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Post by 71stretch on Jun 22, 2010 9:31:40 GMT -5
I would think that would be the process once SSA starts making offers. If OMHA does as workdrone suggests, SSA will know who took OMHA jobs before it even starts making offers, and can move people up, if the GAL matches, into spots they would have offered the ones that took OMHA first.
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