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LBMT
Sept 13, 2013 21:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by funkyodar on Sept 13, 2013 21:36:36 GMT -5
Since I "crushed" it in half the allotted time, leaving me time for some Pilates and a personal best planking session, I'm hoping it's weighted quite heavily. I am with you crab, I hope it counts the most of all parts of the exam. It was a walk in the park. I definitely need to strike your city from my gal MPD. If the parks there are that terrifyingly hostile I dang sure wouldn't survive.
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LBMT
Sept 13, 2013 21:36:50 GMT -5
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Post by funkyodar on Sept 13, 2013 21:36:50 GMT -5
Since I "crushed" it in half the allotted time, leaving me time for some Pilates and a personal best planking session, I'm hoping it's weighted quite heavily. I am with you crab, I hope it counts the most of all parts of the exam. It was a walk in the park. I definitely need to strike your city from my gal MPD. If the parks there are that terrifyingly hostile I dang sure wouldn't survive.
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Sept 14, 2013 6:54:46 GMT -5
Post by crab on Sept 14, 2013 6:54:46 GMT -5
ALJ LBMT prep book question 1: ABC Shipping Corporation ("ABC") entered into a contract obligating it to ship 900 crates of auto parts from Los Angeles and deliver them to XYZ Auto Company's ("XYZ")factory in Manila within 75 days from the effective date of the contract. Under the contract, ABC would be paid $10,000 up front, and $10,000 upon completion of delivery of the crates to XYZ in Manila. During transport, rain water leaked into half of the crates causing $10,000 in rust damage to the auto parts. All of the crates were delivered 60 days after the effective date of the contract. ABC never received a second $10,000 payment. Which one of the following is a reasonable conclusion from the facts above: (a) ABC has suffered damages resulting from non-performance of obligations under the contract. (b) XYZ has suffered damages resulting from non-performance of obligations under the contract. (c) If the contract did not obligate ABC to protect the crates from damage during shipment, XYZ owes ABC $10,000. (d) If XYZ saved $10,000 as a result of delivery two weeks before the deadline, XYZ owes ABC $10,000. (e) ABC has not suffered damages. funkyodar, anyone who read the ALJ LBMT prep book cover to cover (reprinted in its entirety above), would feel as confident as MPD and I do about our results.
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LBMT
Sept 17, 2013 9:44:43 GMT -5
Post by zebra51 on Sept 17, 2013 9:44:43 GMT -5
I think OPM is doing a disservice to themselves by not having an ALJ LBMT prep guide. OPM has a logic testing prep guide for prospective agents testing for ICE, Border Patrol, FBI, and . Having a prepared candidate reveals much more of the persons capabilities that "Mystery Testing".
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LBMT
Sept 17, 2013 10:04:34 GMT -5
Post by moopigsdad on Sept 17, 2013 10:04:34 GMT -5
I think OPM is doing a disservice to themselves by not having an ALJ LBMT prep guide. OPM has a logic testing prep guide for prospective agents testing for ICE, Border Patrol, FBI, and . Having a prepared candidate reveals much more of the persons capabilities that "Mystery Testing". I don't disagree. Although the LBMT was a mystery to those testing, it wasn't an impossible mystery, IMHO.
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LBMT
Sept 17, 2013 10:08:14 GMT -5
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Post by funkyodar on Sept 17, 2013 10:08:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure I saw a prep book. Yep, picked it up at the doctors office: "Dealing with Hemmorhoids-When life is a PITA"
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LBMT
Sept 17, 2013 10:10:23 GMT -5
Post by moopigsdad on Sept 17, 2013 10:10:23 GMT -5
Pretty sure I saw a prep book. Yep, picked it up at the doctors office: "Dealing with Hemmorhoids-When life is a PITA" LOL! Funky your wit never ceases to amaze me. Why not become a stand-up comic and make more than you would as an ALJ?
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LBMT
Sept 26, 2013 6:51:21 GMT -5
Post by moopigsdad on Sept 26, 2013 6:51:21 GMT -5
I think I found a goldmine of helpful stuff to help prep for the Logic Based Measurement Test. I haven't taken the test yet, so I don't know for sure. And I can't share it on here because the board Gestapo would be all over me like the gal who posted a link to an LSAT prep sheet and the poor guy who posted the pic of the rubber chicken USB drive. But just curious as to whether others felt like they also found such a goldmine, and whether they felt the same about that goldmine after they took the LBMT (to the extent those feelings can be shared within the limitations of the confidentiality agreement). Aljfaq there were some examples, but I don't think you can really study for the LBMT. It is what it is. Good luck!
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LBMT
Sept 26, 2013 7:43:00 GMT -5
Post by Gaidin on Sept 26, 2013 7:43:00 GMT -5
I actually think you could study for it. I can't really explain how because of the ND agreement but there were resources that helped me and had I dedicated more time I think they would have been even more helpful.
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Sept 26, 2013 7:43:11 GMT -5
Post by Gaidin on Sept 26, 2013 7:43:11 GMT -5
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Sept 26, 2013 7:43:26 GMT -5
Post by Gaidin on Sept 26, 2013 7:43:26 GMT -5
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Sept 26, 2013 8:31:36 GMT -5
Post by sealaw90 on Sept 26, 2013 8:31:36 GMT -5
Before the test, I found a goldmine of stuff to study. And study I did. However, not all things that glitter are gold, and after I took the the test I am now armed with the knowledge that must remain within my own brain of which gold nuggets were real and which were a waste of my time. I have to say I wasted my time on a few study guides out there. Unfortunately, I feel as though I will be taking that blasted LBMT in a few years when my cities don't get pulled for a cert... The good news I know what to REALLY do to prepare. Goodluck aljfaq!
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Sept 26, 2013 8:42:13 GMT -5
Post by gunner on Sept 26, 2013 8:42:13 GMT -5
Before the test, I found a goldmine of stuff to study. And study I did. However, not all things that glitter are gold, and after I took the the test I am now armed with the knowledge that must remain within my own brain of which gold nuggets were real and which were a waste of my time. I have to say I wasted my time on a few study guides out there. Unfortunately, I feel as though I will be taking that blasted LBMT in a few years when my cities don't get pulled for a cert... The good news I know what to REALLY do to prepare. Goodluck aljfaq! This is actually a flaw in process. It's all well and good to say that we cannot reveal "details," very, very broadly interpreted (at least on this board), but the fact is that many have been through this process before, and do know exactly what to expect at the SI. Although that's not true for the LBMT this time, it will be next time. So if the goal is to prevent some test takers from having an advantage, the confidentiality agreement is only partially effective; it prevents some first-time test takers from having an advantage against other first-time test takers. But to the extent knowing details other than the questions themselves gives any advantage, the confidentiality agreement ensures that some test takers--those who have been through the process before--will have that advantage over all of the first-time test takers. There is nothing to be gained by preventing discussion of details like the format of the tests and the types of questions that have been asked in the past. But I don't make the rules. I just criticize them.
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Sept 26, 2013 8:43:45 GMT -5
Post by Ace Midnight on Sept 26, 2013 8:43:45 GMT -5
Before the test, I found a goldmine of stuff to study. And study I did. However, not all things that glitter are gold, and after I took the the test I am now armed with the knowledge that must remain within my own brain of which gold nuggets were real and which were a waste of my time. I have to say I wasted my time on a few study guides out there. Unfortunately, I feel as though I will be taking that blasted LBMT in a few years when my cities don't get pulled for a cert... The good news I know what to REALLY do to prepare. Goodluck aljfaq! I have an open GAL, so the part about the cities on my cert won't apply - as for the rest, I could have written this post myself.
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Sept 26, 2013 8:59:31 GMT -5
Post by sealaw90 on Sept 26, 2013 8:59:31 GMT -5
This is actually a flaw in process. It's all well and good to say that we cannot reveal "details," very, very broadly interpreted (at least on this board), but the fact is that many have been through this process before, and do know exactly what to expect at the SI. Although that's not true for the LBMT this time, it will be next time. So if the goal is to prevent some test takers from having an advantage, the confidentiality agreement is only partially effective; it prevents some first-time test takers from having an advantage against other first-time test takers. But to the extent knowing details other than the questions themselves gives any advantage, the confidentiality agreement ensures that some test takers--those who have been through the process before--will have that advantage over all of the first-time test takers. There is nothing to be gained by preventing discussion of details like the format of the tests and the types of questions that have been asked in the past. But I don't make the rules. I just criticize them. I think the other analogy I am linking this situation to is the "it's a marathon not a sprint". The more marathons you run, the better your chances of making the finish line with a decent time/score. How many folks on this Board went through the OPM testing process three times to get a job as an ALJ? Quite a few, and each time they were better at answering questions, tailoring their resume, etc. I agree with you that it is a stupid confidentiality agreement that shouldn't extend past the expiration of the register. If the last register is now truly expired, the confidentiality should be dissolved. Of course, like you said, it wouldn't really help us guinea pigs with this new testing cycle, and we'd still be locked into confidentiality for a while .
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Post by 71stretch on Sept 26, 2013 20:59:27 GMT -5
Even those of us who have been through the WD and SI before have no way to know "exactly" what to expect. Having been through those before takes some of the "deer in the headlights" unfamiliarity out of it, but I don't think practice effect applies here like it does on standardized tests .
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LBMT
Sept 27, 2013 8:30:56 GMT -5
Post by sealaw90 on Sept 27, 2013 8:30:56 GMT -5
And here I was, blissfully optimistic that if I don't get selected off this register, it wasn't a complete waste of time...sigh
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Post by 71stretch on Sept 27, 2013 8:36:42 GMT -5
The current register is not expired, and won't be until the day the new one is completed. Those of us on it would have received notice if it had. Also, I think the first communication from OPM about the new applications said that the current register would expire when scores were issued for a new one.
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LBMT
Sept 27, 2013 8:45:36 GMT -5
Post by sealaw90 on Sept 27, 2013 8:45:36 GMT -5
You're right Observer, I spoke too soon. Apologies to those who are on that register and didn't get to FC.
But in all honesty, do you really think they will pull another cert off the list? I guess they could if the current testing cycle gets logjammed in the swirling mess of continuing resolutions, RIFs and furloughs, not to mention appeals, lawsuits, etc. ARGGHHH!! I feel like I'm in the yoga class from hell - "just breath deeply, clear your mind" - sometimes easier said than done. It's all good though, I'd rather go through this than NOT go through this process!!
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LBMT
Sept 27, 2013 10:14:14 GMT -5
Post by 71stretch on Sept 27, 2013 10:14:14 GMT -5
You're right Observer, I spoke too soon. Apologies to those who are on that register and didn't get to FC. But in all honesty, do you really think they will pull another cert off the list? I guess they could if the current testing cycle gets logjammed in the swirling mess of continuing resolutions, RIFs and furloughs, not to mention appeals, lawsuits, etc. ARGGHHH!! I feel like I'm in the yoga class from hell - "just breath deeply, clear your mind" - sometimes easier said than done. It's all good though, I'd rather go through this than NOT go through this process!! No one is saying they are going to pull another cert. That doesn't mean the register isn't going to stay in effect until they have NORs for the ones going through the process now, at which time the old register is replaced by the new one. I was responding to your comments about the confidentiality agreement and that it should only last during the life of the register-- and that since the old register had expired, there should be no confidentiality restrictions in place right now.
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