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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 20, 2013 13:52:22 GMT -5
Just changed to complete! Everyone has the "See Details Tab" at te top, right? Funny joke is not funny.
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Post by davef on Dec 20, 2013 13:57:55 GMT -5
Just changed to complete! Everyone has the "See Details Tab" at te top, right? Funny joke is not funny. Sadly not a joke. I have "See Details" at the top, with everything else showing complete.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 20, 2013 14:03:22 GMT -5
Sadly not a joke. I have "See Details" at the top, with everything else showing complete. Sorry, man - I hope it doesn't mean what it usually does.
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Post by pubdef on Dec 20, 2013 14:05:32 GMT -5
Mine has changed to complete also saying see details.
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Post by davef on Dec 20, 2013 14:08:10 GMT -5
Sadly not a joke. I have "See Details" at the top, with everything else showing complete. Sorry, man - I hope it doesn't mean what it usually does. Thanks Ace. Me too. However, I had a major screw up on the written exam, so it's not all that unexpected. Past posts regarding the difference between awaiting/see details/ complete at this stage of the process still gives me a little hope, but, results can't come soon enough now.
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Post by ehjd on Dec 20, 2013 14:09:38 GMT -5
Just changed to complete across the board. No "see details" message.
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Post by 71stretch on Dec 20, 2013 14:11:43 GMT -5
I don't know what "see details" might mean at this stage (I don't have that notation either). It was my understanding that everyone who got to, and through, that last stage will get a score. It might be a low one, but a score nonetheless.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 20, 2013 14:15:57 GMT -5
I don't know what "see details" might mean at this stage (I don't have that notation either). It was my understanding that everyone who got to, and through, that last stage will get a score. It might be a low one, but a score nonetheless. Just speculating - it could be those below the cut-off to be placed on the register. Again, as we have discussed - ad nauseum - when there is a distinction, it usually means something. Could be as simple as a technical issue unconnected with the NOR, score or placement on the register. But, in the past - it has not generally been a harbinger of good news.
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Post by davef on Dec 20, 2013 14:16:25 GMT -5
This ordeal is going to require some situational bourbon tonight. Is it too early for situational bourbon now? I'm admittedly on the West Coast.
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Post by berk727 on Dec 20, 2013 14:16:35 GMT -5
complete across the board for me. I just checked two days ago, and it was still awaiting results. maybe we'll get our scores as a Christmas present (gold or coal, who can say)?
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Post by gottabeme on Dec 20, 2013 14:18:12 GMT -5
so to be clear...is having a "see details" a good thing or a bad thing?
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Post by pubdef on Dec 20, 2013 14:18:57 GMT -5
so to be clear...is having a "see details" a good thing or a bad thing? Typically on application manager it is a bad thing. But with this it doesn't make as much sense so who knows.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 20, 2013 14:23:17 GMT -5
so to be clear...is having a "see details" a good thing or a bad thing? As we are currently in the transitional phase - let's avoid "bad" for now - let's just say if the situation remains, historically it is not, strictly speaking, "good" to be stuck at "see details" for any significant length of time, if others' statuses are changing. However, as others have said - at this point, you should receive a NOR and a score. I just remember the discussions we had about the wording of the announcement - there is a "minimum" score cutoff, either overall, or specific to the SI, in order to be placed on the register. I was in the camp, "Essentially everybody will be placed on the register - look at the scores on the old (current) register." If these numbers hold, I may have to revisit this.
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Post by davef on Dec 20, 2013 14:24:09 GMT -5
so to be clear...is having a "see details" a good thing or a bad thing? Typically on application manager it is a bad thing. But with this it doesn't make as much sense so who knows. So far in this process it has been the kiss of death. However, and this was discussed in length on a thread regarding DC invites, it appears this has happened in the past upon the final release of NORs with no consequence. Me recolection was that the announcement indicated you need to pass , or score high enough, on the written and SI in Order make the register.
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Post by lildavey on Dec 20, 2013 14:25:30 GMT -5
There's a "details" tab and a "checklist" tab. If you click the checklist tab it just gives you the list of docs you submitted, it doesn't tell you anything about the status of the application.
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Post by gottabeme on Dec 20, 2013 14:26:01 GMT -5
whew! no see detail tab here, but Santa's sleigh is still a long ways off and I'm not so sure I have been good enough.
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Post by 71stretch on Dec 20, 2013 14:26:15 GMT -5
I don't know what "see details" might mean at this stage (I don't have that notation either). It was my understanding that everyone who got to, and through, that last stage will get a score. It might be a low one, but a score nonetheless. Just speculating - it could be those below the cut-off to be placed on the register. Again, as we have discussed - ad nauseum - when there is a distinction, it usually means something. Could be as simple as a technical issue unconnected with the NOR, score or placement on the register. But, in the past - it has not generally been a harbinger of good news. I'm not sure there is a "cutoff" score to be put on the register. We know there are scores in the 50's on the current one, I think I've heard of people with 40's scores. We don't hear about lower scores because those people would never be reached by a cert. Everyone has a "details" tab, I think, but not anything that says "see details".
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Post by BagLady on Dec 20, 2013 14:31:35 GMT -5
OPM, you complete me.
"Situational bourbon" made me laugh out loud.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 20, 2013 14:36:17 GMT -5
I'm not sure there is a "cutoff" score to be put on the register. We know there are scores in the 50's on the current one, I think I've heard of people with 40's scores. We don't hear about lower scores because those people would never be reached by a cert. Everyone has a "details" tab, I think, but not anything that says "see details". Let's take the last thing first - if the top says, "Complete, see details" - that is different from "Complete", with a details tab (which everyone has). As to your first point, directly from the invitation: "Applicants who complete and meet the criteria for all three assessments will be notified of their final ratings when all applicants have completed these assessments. If you do not receive the required minimum score on the WD or SI, you will not receive a final numerical rating and will not be placed on the ALJ register. Applicants who receive final numerical ratings will be added to the new ALJ register, which will be used as a source to refer candidate names to agencies for employment consideration." Emphasis added.
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Post by 71stretch on Dec 20, 2013 14:44:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure there is a "cutoff" score to be put on the register. We know there are scores in the 50's on the current one, I think I've heard of people with 40's scores. We don't hear about lower scores because those people would never be reached by a cert. Everyone has a "details" tab, I think, but not anything that says "see details". Let's take the last thing first - if the top says, "Complete, see details" - that is different from "Complete", with a details tab (which everyone has). As to your first point, directly from the invitation: "Applicants who complete and meet the criteria for all three assessments will be notified of their final ratings when all applicants have completed these assessments. If you do not receive the required minimum score on the WD or SI, you will not receive a final numerical rating and will not be placed on the ALJ register. Applicants who receive final numerical ratings will be added to the new ALJ register, which will be used as a source to refer candidate names to agencies for employment consideration." Emphasis added. You are right about the minimum score issue. I was just coming back to fix that. There was no minimum score last time around, my brain must have been stuck there. . So, "see details" may again be a hint of a problem, as it apparently was before. Or, maybe not. Patience, everyone!
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