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Post by anotherfed on Jun 25, 2014 22:31:47 GMT -5
The sooner, the better! I want all you stars to get outa the way of the Scobbies!
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 26, 2014 7:34:07 GMT -5
Perhaps the old report about the selection committee being made up of rocaljs and no hocaljs is wrong. A beloved, insider, member requesting anonymity just pm'd me advising that their hocalj is going to be in FC taking part in new alj selections June 27 thru July 3. Funk is just the messenger, folks. I'm interested in this rumor, Funk, for a lot of reasons. First, if the selections are being made June 27 (that's tomorrow for most of us) - and running through July 3 - are they working over the weekend? And, as they make selections, are those selected early going to start getting calls (e.g. Monday, June 30) or will all selections have to be finalized before Bob starts calling the selectees? In case you can't tell - the waiting part of this is literally killing me. I know, marathon, not a sprint, and such.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 26, 2014 7:55:38 GMT -5
Perhaps the old report about the selection committee being made up of rocaljs and no hocaljs is wrong. A beloved, insider, member requesting anonymity just pm'd me advising that their hocalj is going to be in FC taking part in new alj selections June 27 thru July 3. Funk is just the messenger, folks. I'm interested in this rumor, Funk, for a lot of reasons. First, if the selections are being made June 27 (that's tomorrow for most of us) - and running through July 3 - are they working over the weekend? And, as they make selections, are those selected early going to start getting calls (e.g. Monday, July 30) or will all selections have to be finalized before Bob starts calling the selectees? In case you can't tell - the waiting part of this is literally killing me. I know, marathon, not a sprint, and such. Can't answer any of those excellent questions Ace. All I got was the report that someone's hocalj was going those dates to participate in the selection committee. I suppose giving the members of that committee two weeks makes sense. And letting them have a weekend inbthe FC/DC area is a nice little "thank you" for their hard work. As to rolling or mass offers....who knows? With the report of this new process meaning they have to make an offer and get an acceptance before they can make another offer, I woukd think it makes sense to roll them out as made. But, no one ever asks me and what I think makes sense is often at odds with what this process deems sensible.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 26, 2014 8:11:29 GMT -5
Funk - that's not a 2-week period - that's tomorrow, through next Thursday before the July 4th Holiday - I mistakenly put July 30 in my original response. June 30 is this upcoming Monday.
I only asked because if they report tomorrow, and start working tomorrow, would they stop and reconvene on Monday? If they worked through the weekend that's 5 full days, plus travel on Friday and Thursday. But, if they're traveling tomorrow, getting the weekend off, they'll only have 3 days - essentially Monday through Wednesday, and traveling on Thursday before July 4th.
As far as work days, the difference is almost half if they don't work the weekend of the rumored period. 3 versus 5.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jun 26, 2014 8:35:26 GMT -5
Calm down ace and let the process work itself out. If you are getting this anxious now, what will happen if you miss the call from Bob for the position? Are you going to eat, work, sleep, etc with your phone? Son't sweat it as I am just trying to be funny ace. However, stay calm as you have waited this long (since March 2013), what is another couple of weeks of waiting? Good luck my friend.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 26, 2014 8:38:09 GMT -5
Calm down ace and let the process work itself out. If you are getting this anxious now, what will happen if you miss the call from Bob for the position? Are you going to eat, work, sleep, etc with your phone? Son't sweat it as I am just trying to be funny ace. However, stay calm as you have waited this long (since March 2013), what is another couple of weeks of waiting? Good luck my friend. Nobody's anxious. You think I'm anxious? Oh, because I said the waiting part is literally killing me? Disregard that - apparently, I engage in "hyperbole" (whatever that means) and overthink/overanalyze things - if my family members/coworkers are to be believed. ETA: Marathon, not a sprint, etc.
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Post by trickbag on Jun 26, 2014 8:40:42 GMT -5
Are you going to eat, work, sleep, etc with your phone? Yes.
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Post by Highlander on Jun 26, 2014 8:43:05 GMT -5
It seems possible that the selection process could go pretty quickly...new testing process might result in more objective, numerical ranking among candidates (with some subjective elements), and there are less candidates to select from for the number of open positions. So less applications to review. It may be more of a "rack and stack" exercise than in the past. Or not.
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Post by hopefalj on Jun 26, 2014 8:44:51 GMT -5
Are you going to eat, work, sleep, etc with your phone? Yes. Does this mean you're the real life version of Joaquin Phoenix in Her?
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Post by NP on Jun 26, 2014 8:50:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know if they will let you know if you are NOT getting an offer? And will they tell you if you were three-struck, or if you'll be eligible for future certs?
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Post by gary on Jun 26, 2014 8:58:24 GMT -5
Perhaps the old report about the selection committee being made up of rocaljs and no hocaljs is wrong. A beloved, insider, member requesting anonymity just pm'd me advising that their hocalj is going to be in FC taking part in new alj selections June 27 thru July 3. Funk is just the messenger, folks. I'm interested in this rumor, Funk, for a lot of reasons. First, if the selections are being made June 27 (that's tomorrow for most of us) - and running through July 3 - are they working over the weekend? And, as they make selections, are those selected early going to start getting calls (e.g. Monday, June 30) or will all selections have to be finalized before Bob starts calling the selectees? In case you can't tell - the waiting part of this is literally killing me. I know, marathon, not a sprint, and such. I hope the waiting does not literally kill you. But on the plus side, if it does I'm one body closer to the job.
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Post by hopefalj on Jun 26, 2014 9:10:36 GMT -5
Does anyone know if they will let you know if you are NOT getting an offer? And will they tell you if you were three-struck, or if you'll be eligible for future certs? No. You'll just know by reading this board if you don't get an offer, I believe. As far as being three-struck, you'll have to wait and see if cities on a subsequent cert are on your GAL and contain lower scores than yours.
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Post by cowboy on Jun 26, 2014 9:11:09 GMT -5
Perhaps the old report about the selection committee being made up of rocaljs and no hocaljs is wrong. A beloved, insider, member requesting anonymity just pm'd me advising that their hocalj is going to be in FC taking part in new alj selections June 27 thru July 3. Funk is just the messenger, folks. In the past does anyone know the time between the end of the selection board meeting and the phone calls beginning? To answer a few lingering questions here, the history has been to make offers about 4 weeks prior to the start date in the office. Traditionally, ALJs will have about 2 weeks in their new office to get oriented prior to the beginning of the monthlong training. Thus, if the first training class is set to begin on September 15, likely offers will be made the last week of July. However, this time frame has changed from time to time based on the urgency to get the offers out and give time for the new ALJs to move and get settled. I would expect offers to be made in about three or four weeks. Don't be surprised if you see an office on the current cert list that isn't filled by a new ALJ. Sometimes SSA ultimately decides not to hire there. Sometimes they fill the spot with a transfer. Those are going on now. Thus, it is nearly impossible to tell how or if a hiring decision is made for a particular spot.
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Post by cowboy on Jun 26, 2014 9:14:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know if they will let you know if you are NOT getting an offer? And will they tell you if you were three-struck, or if you'll be eligible for future certs? No one is told if they are three struck and no one is notified that they will not be hired. As many here can tell you, one of the most difficult days is when you see this board light up with people accepting offers and you are waiting for the call. I had memorized the number so that I would recognize it if my phone rang and carried it with me for days. After being on five certs, I can tell you it is a difficult time waiting. Then silence. Not to be a doomsayer, best wishes to all the hopeful candidates. I hope they hire greatly and frequently and may each of you get your calling.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 26, 2014 9:23:42 GMT -5
It seems possible that the selection process could go pretty quickly...new testing process might result in more objective, numerical ranking among candidates (with some subjective elements), and there are less candidates to select from for the number of open positions. So less applications to review. It may be more of a "rack and stack" exercise than in the past. Or not. Yeah - we're through the looking glass here - it has taken longer, generally, at almost every step of this - but all of the factors causing that are in the past. If there is going to be a positive change in the timeline, for those of us waiting, this is the time.
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Post by zepplin on Jun 26, 2014 9:25:32 GMT -5
You do get an email eventually that you were not selected.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jun 26, 2014 9:42:19 GMT -5
Thank you cowboy for such kind words and wishes. You sharing your knowledge about the process is one of the reasons why this Board is so important to be a member of.
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Post by anotherfed on Jun 26, 2014 9:52:01 GMT -5
In the past does anyone know the time between the end of the selection board meeting and the phone calls beginning? To answer a few lingering questions here, the history has been to make offers about 4 weeks prior to the start date in the office. Traditionally, ALJs will have about 2 weeks in their new office to get oriented prior to the beginning of the monthlong training. Thus, if the first training class is set to begin on September 15, likely offers will be made the last week of July. However, this time frame has changed from time to time based on the urgency to get the offers out and give time for the new ALJs to move and get settled. I would expect offers to be made in about three or four weeks. Don't be surprised if you see an office on the current cert list that isn't filled by a new ALJ. Sometimes SSA ultimately decides not to hire there. Sometimes they fill the spot with a transfer. Those are going on now. Thus, it is nearly impossible to tell how or if a hiring decision is made for a particular spot. Don't forget, it has been reported in this Board that SSA ODAR is now requiring 3-4 weeks in the home office prior to Judge school. That may speed up the process a bit. And if SSA is serious about hiring 200 by the end of the calendar year, they will need to accelerate the process so they can move on the the next round of selections. Right now, SSA has momentum, budget, and need -- they will want to get as many people on board as possible, as soon as possible. Let's hear it for momentum!
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Post by hopefalj on Jun 26, 2014 10:04:17 GMT -5
You do get an email eventually that you were not selected. Ah, thanks. But it comes after all the calls have been made, right, so you already know whether you've been selected by the time you get it?
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 26, 2014 10:38:04 GMT -5
Funk - that's not a 2-week period - that's tomorrow, through next Thursday before the July 4th Holiday - I mistakenly put July 30 in my original response. June 30 is this upcoming Monday. I only asked because if they report tomorrow, and start working tomorrow, would they stop and reconvene on Monday? If they worked through the weekend that's 5 full days, plus travel on Friday and Thursday. But, if they're traveling tomorrow, getting the weekend off, they'll only have 3 days - essentially Monday through Wednesday, and traveling on Thursday before July 4th. As far as work days, the difference is almost half if they don't work the weekend of the rumored period. 3 versus 5. Right you are, Ace. This work from home sched has me all screwed up. Today feels like my Monday. My new guess is today is a travel day. Meet, greet and set the parameters tomorrow. Weekend off, (but maybe they work and get credit time) and reassemble for the big dart board, drunk monkey selection fest MTW and drop off the final selections to ocalj before heading out on the third......or not that at all.
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