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Post by JudgeRatty on Nov 8, 2014 14:27:38 GMT -5
Getting a little antsy here also about not getting a call yet to schedule an interview. KCCO. I bet we get a call Monday.
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Post by tpm on Nov 9, 2014 3:33:21 GMT -5
So it seems that all those that received the email and a call for the interview, counsel patience and calm, since the system works well in an inexplicable fashion. Those that have not received the call, counsel limited patience till Monday, albeit cautiously as the system is inexplicable.
I would bet that those that got called for an interview last week, had higher scores that those that didn't. Say I received 70.11. If you were called for an interview prior to 11/09/2014, did you score higher?
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Post by moopigsdad on Nov 9, 2014 7:36:20 GMT -5
So it seems that all those that received the email and a call for the interview, counsel patience and calm, since the system works well in an inexplicable fashion. Those that have not received the call, counsel limited patience till Monday, albeit cautiously as the system is inexplicable. I would bet that those that got called for an interview last week, had higher scores that those that didn't. Say I received 70.11. If you were called for an interview prior to 11/09/2014, did you score higher? I am willing to bet you are correct tpm. However, patience is still the key. The Federal Government works in very mysterious ways!
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Post by ok1956 on Nov 9, 2014 8:55:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure it's based on score given what the score poll says about where my score falls among those reporting.
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Post by moopigsdad on Nov 9, 2014 9:40:36 GMT -5
So true ok1956....perhaps it is purely random and nothing more.....
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Post by bucksfan on Nov 9, 2014 14:50:18 GMT -5
yes, odar is a bit silly about time and attendance issues but it is the world that they live in and you have to play ball by it. i don;t know if other agencies get their .... in such a wad over this or not. My experience is that other agencies do not have the same attitude to tracking time. Outside of this board and the discussions of how things work at SSA, I have not heard of attorneys having to clock in and out. But, what do I know? Before discovering this board in 2010, I thought every federal government attorney was or soon would be a GS-15.
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Post by jerseymom on Nov 9, 2014 15:21:13 GMT -5
At SSA, everyone must account for their time, either by signing in on time sheets or using a web-based time and attendance software. Judges, managers and support staff all must follow the rules. Some are offended by the requirements and others see it as no big deal. Those who try to fudge their time records learn how easy it is to lose their jobs.
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Post by luckylady2 on Nov 9, 2014 17:20:08 GMT -5
yes, odar is a bit silly about time and attendance issues but it is the world that they live in and you have to play ball by it. i don;t know if other agencies get their .... in such a wad over this or not. My experience is that other agencies do not have the same attitude to tracking time. Outside of this board and the discussions of how things work at SSA, I have not heard of attorneys having to clock in and out. But, what do I know? Before discovering this board in 2010, I thought every federal government attorney was or soon would be a GS-15. At Main DOJ and at one USAO, they changed my official work hours when I wanted to come in & leave an hour early to accomodate another commitment. We also kept accounting of our time, just like in private practice, but on the quarter hour. As public servants we ARE accountable to the public for the hours we keep and the way we spend them while on the public dime.
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Post by luckylady2 on Nov 9, 2014 17:24:56 GMT -5
BTW Christina - I like the new avatar!
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Post by bartleby on Nov 9, 2014 17:31:21 GMT -5
Jerseymom, you noted. "Luckily, the hearing office management suspected this type of unprofessional behavior and the HOCALJ had scheduled a light caseload for three months so he could hear the retiring judge's cases. No hearings had to be cancelled despite the ALJ's classless and selfish move." Kind of a hostile work environment if this is true. Perhaps the judge retired because they were nor scheduling the number of hearings he requested? Further in the past Judges did not have to sign in or our if they worked a fixed 40 schedule like 8:30 to 5:00. This is not my buddy that you describe. It sounds like games were being played by management in that office. As far as the dedication to the job and the claimants waiting for hearings, wait until you are having a 25% dismissal rate because the needy claimants don't show for hearings and you have wasted time preparing and sitting through a wasted hearing slot that someone else could be using..
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Post by jerseymom on Nov 9, 2014 18:03:58 GMT -5
Bart, where's the hostility? This knucklehead purposely scheduled hearings when he knew he was going to retire. Giving his office NO notice of his retirement was hostile and unprofessional. The management team was astute and saved the day! ALJs who worked a fix tour didn't have to sign in, but they did have to work 40 hours a week or take leave. Again, this ALJ didn't do that. The judge I'm referring to didn't want to follow the rules. As far as claimants not showing up for hearings, that is part of our practice. I've been there done that. I'm still here to serve the public. Putting claimants in the middle of a dispute with your hearing office management team is never acceptable. By the way, the headaches and heartburn this ALJ caused went away when he retired! Funny how that works. How did your buddy close out his cases ?
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Post by privateatty on Nov 10, 2014 7:34:06 GMT -5
I have seen Judges who put themselves over the parties before him and those who put their docket first. The choice is clear--whether you are at SSA or SEC or NLRB.
Even assuming that management is part of this simple equation the result is the same--and I would proffer that the Karmic bullet would follow that result. It is still your docket--and your level of professionalism.
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Post by christina on Nov 10, 2014 8:36:10 GMT -5
i have been here for awhile and you get used to the detailed time and attendance recordkeeping. i don't think the judges have webta yet but there does some to be a slight ligtening of the onerous nature of some timekeeping aspects with webta but of course the computer can track every move too. Agreed on the accountability point. i would like it if we could just do our 8 hours whenever(documenting either the times worked or the hours worked), especially at home but we can't and that's ok. We get plenty of annual leave and depending on our start time, are allowed to work extra every day and then use those extra hours like annual leave(other than we can't carry over more than 24 hours to future pay periods). so this job offers a lot of freedom if you need to take some time off during the day; you just have to charge it to some kind of leave.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Nov 10, 2014 8:36:50 GMT -5
By the way, the headaches and heartburn this ALJ caused went away when he retired! Funny how that works. Predictable as the sunrise. For myself, I know that once I have a problem with the second person in an organization - I re-evaluate everything I'm doing - heck, maybe it's me. Once I determine that it is the same 3 or 4 people (typical number) that everyone has the same problems with - I stop worrying about it. I always ask if I can do things better - and communication, civility and professionalism will - long-term - cure most problems the average person has in the workplace.
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Post by ba on Nov 10, 2014 14:14:06 GMT -5
I was placed on the certificate and turned in my paperwork within the first two days of receiving the email from Bob. However, I have not heard anything from DC about an interview. This is my first certificate. When should I be concerned?
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Post by moopigsdad on Nov 10, 2014 14:21:14 GMT -5
I just received my telephone call for my interview. It is scheduled for Tuesday, November 18, 2014. Good luck to everyone else waiting for the call. The young lady I spoke to said they are trying to call as quickly as they can to schedule everyone. Now, the long wait for the travel arrangements information to be supplied by the Division of Administrative Support with all the necessary information required to make my travel arrangements with CWT SATO, the government’s travel managing company.
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Post by Who Me? on Nov 10, 2014 18:14:48 GMT -5
I was placed on the certificate and turned in my paperwork within the first two days of receiving the email from Bob. However, I have not heard anything from DC about an interview. This is my first certificate. When should I be concerned? Not sure how to answer this, but if you haven't heard by Wednesday (Tues. if a federal holiday), I'd cal FC. Got my call today for the interview. 11/14 was the only day available and I had a choice of 4 time slots.
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Post by Missundaztood on Nov 10, 2014 23:50:02 GMT -5
I was placed on the certificate and turned in my paperwork within the first two days of receiving the email from Bob. However, I have not heard anything from DC about an interview. This is my first certificate. When should I be concerned? IMHO, this aspect isn't like private practice, and for once, that is a good thing. if you make a cert and want to interview, you will. It may be short notice, but it will happen. When I interviewed, I was told they keep slots open for emergencies, because stuff happens. If I recall correctly, for the first cert, it took a few weeks to get interviews scheduled. I know everyone is antsy because interviews are starting, but all the paperwork is due Wednesday, including supplemental Wednesday folks, and tomorrow is a holiday, so I would give it until Friday before freaking, so they can double-check that paperwork was received and work through the list. (Now pretend that I wrote something calming and not annoying here.)
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