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Post by Gaidin on Jan 8, 2015 11:54:32 GMT -5
Ok this has been a tech learning adventure. I now know how to make a Google spreadsheet. The spreadsheet is sortable. The ALJ ID # is not anything official. It is instead an individual identifier for each ALJ created solely for this edition of this spreadsheet. In other words ALJ ID # 1 is Judge Smith, ALJ ID # 2 is Judge Jones, ALJ ID # 10z is Judge Johnson, etc. There is no rhyme or reason to their ID# but each ALJ on the transfer list has their own ID#. I hope I made that clear. If not I will try to answer questions as they come up. Happy Data Mining. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bp6MC9YGw2ROWzsRDAaNRT3kA3y4SfatCtMHbzT8BEE/edit?usp=sharing
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Post by moopigsdad on Jan 8, 2015 12:17:24 GMT -5
Thank you Gaidin. You did an excellent job. I am appreciative of all of your hard work.
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Post by Gaidin on Jan 8, 2015 12:22:30 GMT -5
Now if only Bob feels the same way.
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Post by mamaru on Jan 8, 2015 12:24:59 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jan 8, 2015 12:26:32 GMT -5
Now if only Bob feels the same way. Well if I was Bob I would hire you in a heartbeat. Unfortunately for you, I am not.
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Post by lizdarcy on Jan 8, 2015 12:46:36 GMT -5
Thank you, Gaidin. I would hire you for anything that required, among other things, logic and diligence.
I have an outsider's question. Sorry, if this has been answered anywhere else, I don't want to rile anyone. Are these transfer requests or actual transfers that are happening before the next round of hiring?
Liz
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Post by Gaidin on Jan 8, 2015 12:48:08 GMT -5
Requests. Some have occurred as recently as this week.
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Post by sealaw90 on Jan 8, 2015 12:49:56 GMT -5
THANK YOU G!!! Now I have to hurry up and finish my real work so I can play with this list!
Good question LizDarcy - do we have a relative snapshot in time reference?
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Post by moopigsdad on Jan 8, 2015 12:58:30 GMT -5
Thank you, Gaidin. I would hire you for anything that required, among other things, logic and diligence.
I have an outsider's question. Sorry, if this has been answered anywhere else, I don't want to rile anyone. Are these transfer requests or actual transfers that are happening before the next round of hiring?
Liz
Yes, there have been quite a few transfers this week for present sitting ALJs. Hence, the landscape for future GALs may change once again.
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Post by mamaru on Jan 8, 2015 12:59:43 GMT -5
To elaborate, this list is from January. It has been worked twice since it was published. I know personally several people on the list as seeking transfers who have been offered and accepted transfers. It is no longer accurate BUT it does give a general idea of where people want into and out of. This type of data mining is somewhat speculative but is a fun pastime for many Boarders.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jan 8, 2015 13:03:40 GMT -5
You are correct mamaru, he accuracy of the list changes frequently as transfers occur. It is just for "pastime" purposes at best and not to be relied on for any complete accuracy as to where openings might exist.
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Post by sandiferhands (old) on Jan 8, 2015 13:05:16 GMT -5
Thank you G. Excellent work, as usual.
Newbies and Outsiders: This list is only good for seeing general trends in the most current transfer desires of the judges. It is as outdated as the last transfer to occur, which may have been three days ago or three minutes ago. It cannot be relied upon as a 100% accurate headcount for any city or office.
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Post by Gaidin on Jan 8, 2015 13:12:44 GMT -5
I think its best used to spot which offices are likely to have openings and which are not. There is also a column that shows when they requested that position. That might give you an idea how long a wait it is to get somewhere once hired.
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Post by Gaidin on Jan 8, 2015 13:29:50 GMT -5
I just went and looked. Two judges have been on the transfer list to Honolulu since 9/1/2001. Let that sink in for a minute. Also if your only city is Honolulu please accept my apologies.
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Post by iplawyer on Jan 8, 2015 13:36:43 GMT -5
I think its best used to spot which offices are likely to have openings and which are not. There is also a column that shows when they requested that position. That might give you an idea how long a wait it is to get somewhere once hired. However, there is one important piece of information to keep in mind. Apparently those on transfer lists are asked if they are currently interested in moving to a particular office before the spot is formally offered to them. As long as they decline at that point (before a formal transfer offer), they remain on the transfer list in their position. So someone who wants to move in, say, three years, can place themselves on a list for a particular city and just wait for the right time. Spots in that city may become open numerous times before then, yet they can keep passing. There is one person -- Judge 6n -- who is on the list to transfer to Cincinnati with a "transfer request date" of 2012. Yet Cincinnati has had 4 new hires placed there in the past 4 months, so apparently Judge 6n has declined offers to move. There appears to be no disadvantage to being on a list and repeatedly declining current consideration.
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Post by hopefalj on Jan 8, 2015 13:54:14 GMT -5
I just went and looked. Two judges have been on the transfer list to Honolulu since 9/1/2001. Let that sink in for a minute. Also if your only city is Honolulu please accept my apologies. If I'm not mistaken, I thought there is only one permanent judge in Hawaii, and that person is the HOCALJ. Hiring a HOCALJ would be a management decision rather than a transfer list determination. A current ALJ is more than welcome to correct this belief, though.
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Post by mamaru on Jan 8, 2015 13:57:09 GMT -5
I think its best used to spot which offices are likely to have openings and which are not. There is also a column that shows when they requested that position. That might give you an idea how long a wait it is to get somewhere once hired. However, there is one important piece of information to keep in mind. Apparently those on transfer lists are asked if they are currently interested in moving to a particular office before the spot is formally offered to them. As long as they decline at that point (before a formal transfer offer), they remain on the transfer list in their position. So someone who wants to move in, say, three years, can place themselves on a list for a particular city and just wait for the right time. Spots in that city may become open numerous times before then, yet they can keep passing. That appears to be the case for one person -- Judge 6n -- who is on the list to transfer to Cincinnati with a "transfer request date" of 2012. Yet Cincinnati has had 4 new hires placed there in the past 4 months, so apparently Judge 6n has declined offers to move. Apparently there is no disadvantage to being on a list and repeatedly declining current consideration. Good point.
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Post by gary on Jan 8, 2015 14:07:31 GMT -5
I just went and looked. Two judges have been on the transfer list to Honolulu since 9/1/2001. Let that sink in for a minute. Also if your only city is Honolulu please accept my apologies. If you live in Honolulu and can't get an ALJ gig because you won't move, my sympathy for you is limited. You're living in Honolulu, for God's sake!
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Post by gary on Jan 8, 2015 14:08:59 GMT -5
Now if only Bob feels the same way. I just hope Bob doesn't think you are most valuable to the agency crunching data for this Board.
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Post by bartleby on Jan 8, 2015 16:34:27 GMT -5
We have often mentioned that the Agency may have reason to visit here and maybe even engage on the Board.. Hummmm, Gaidin = Gehlkin.. Makes one wonder. He always has seems to have good information...
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