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Post by funkyodar on Jun 14, 2016 20:46:38 GMT -5
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Post by february on Jun 14, 2016 21:13:45 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by onepingonly on Jun 14, 2016 21:45:07 GMT -5
Do the email addresses for ODAR ALJs generally follow the "firstname.lastname@ssa.gov" format? Although some ALJs have a middle initial in there. SSA has so many employees, there are more than a few with the same first and last names. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 9:31:46 GMT -5
The new ALJs coming in should note that they are very likely going to be the very first ALJs honored to "punch the clock" in regard to their work hours.
For the new ALJs that do not know this, yes, as a an ALJ, professional, United States Judge, you are monitored as to your work hours down to 15 minute intervals. Currently we hand sign in when we show up at work, and hand sign out when we leave, with hand annotation as to our credit hours, leave etc. For TW days we also submit a handsigned sheet of what hours we work. It is a matter of professional trust as to your handsigned submittals.
This will all change now.
For the new hires, and current ALJs the SSA is switching to an electronic sign in and out. Your work hours will now be logged down to the singular minute(s) you log in and out of your computer, on work, leave, TW etc. Note your computer will self log out about every 10 mins(?) if the mouse is not moved. Your coffee and bathroom breaks need to be speedy.
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Post by Gaidin on Jun 15, 2016 9:42:06 GMT -5
The new ALJs coming in should note that they are very likely going to be the very first ALJs honored to "punch the clock" in regard to their work hours. For the new ALJs that do not know this, yes, as a an ALJ, professional, United States Judge, you are monitored as to your work hours down to 15 minute intervals. Currently we hand sign in when we show up at work, and hand sign out when we leave, with hand annotation as to our credit hours, leave etc. For TW days we also submit a handsigned sheet of what hours we work. It is a matter of professional trust as to your handsigned submittals. This will all change now. For the new hires, and current ALJs the SSA is switching to an electronic sign in and out. Your work hours will now be logged down to the singular minute(s) you log in and out of your computer, on work, leave, TW etc. Note your computer will self log out about every 10 mins(?) if the mouse is not moved. Your coffee and bathroom breaks need to be speedy. Based upon how seriously ODAR takes time and leave I figured you already did that. |
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Post by tripper on Jun 15, 2016 9:44:36 GMT -5
The new ALJs coming in should note that they are very likely going to be the very first ALJs honored to "punch the clock" in regard to their work hours. For the new ALJs that do not know this, yes, as a an ALJ, professional, United States Judge, you are monitored as to your work hours down to 15 minute intervals. Currently we hand sign in when we show up at work, and hand sign out when we leave, with hand annotation as to our credit hours, leave etc. For TW days we also submit a handsigned sheet of what hours we work. It is a matter of professional trust as to your handsigned submittals. This will all change now. For the new hires, and current ALJs the SSA is switching to an electronic sign in and out. Your work hours will now be logged down to the singular minute(s) you log in and out of your computer, on work, leave, TW etc. Note your computer will self log out about every 10 mins(?) if the mouse is not moved. Your coffee and bathroom breaks need to be speedy. Based upon how seriously ODAR takes time and leave I figured you already did that. All staff except ALJs have been doing this for a year or so. Apparently the ALJs will be starting soon. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 9:47:24 GMT -5
Based upon how seriously ODAR takes time and leave I figured you already did that. Nope. That was the 1st thing that absolutely stunned me on 1st day as a salaried professional ALJ. We have to sign in and sign out work hours, breaks, leave, TW etc. Do what? ?
I had not signed/signed out punched a time clock since I was an hourly worker in meatpacking 4 decades ago.
I actually started laughing to myself at this on my first sign in as an ALJ.
Again, it is what it is.
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Post by phoenixrisingALJ on Jun 15, 2016 11:40:54 GMT -5
Based upon how seriously ODAR takes time and leave I figured you already did that. Nope. That was the 1st thing that absolutely stunned me on 1st day as a salaried professional ALJ. We have to sign in and sign out work hours, breaks, leave, TW etc. Do what??
I had not signed/signed out punched a time clock since I was an hourly worker in meatpacking 4 decades ago.
I actually started laughing to myself at this on my first sign in as an ALJ.
Again, it is what it is.
Kind of obnoxious - especially the computer aspect - I mean shoot - if I am researching I often like to print out cases and then read them and mull them over - if they are particularly complicated I outline them - so a lot of time is off line. I was in private practice for over 20 years so no real monitor of time beyond work output/results. I started with FED agency (not HHS/SSA) in 2008 and I was shocked to have to sign in. There was a book under the OFFICIAL office clock and we had to sign in and out. Telework we signed in and out by emailing boss start and stop time. I was shocked - but I adjusted - because at the end of the day - whatever - roll with it. Then our Agency got a new Secretary and he has been all about improving work life balance and making our agency rankings go up - in that Best Federal Agency ranking they put out. So all of a sudden no more signing in and out - the expanded the band of hours, shrunk core hours- expanded telework. So I guess I am saying - maybe this requirement will change too - all comes down to who is the boss and how hard your union fights to change things. My other thought is - I hate it when folks scam the system (and that happens EVERYWHERE) and mess it up for those who are not abusing the system...smh. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 12:07:31 GMT -5
I find that as a non-hourly, salaried, professional to have to punch a time clock as to the work minutes and hours is very counterproductive. One more than one occasion as an ALJ I have worked (I enjoy work) outside expected work hours; only to be instructed "Yeah, uh...yeah, uh, don't do that".
One would think that with a million case backlog and bad ALJ's in the news, that those beings in the know would realize that encouraging ALJs to work as much as possible when and where they can would be the preferred method of operation, rather than severely limiting ALJs to clocking in and out specific minutes of the day as to when and where they can work.
But I digress and mine is not to reason why. My case production is up there, my AC remand is down there and I get paid every other Friday. It is what it is and I love doing what I do. Smile and move on.
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Post by onepingonly on Jun 15, 2016 12:44:25 GMT -5
The new ALJs coming in should note that they are very likely going to be the very first ALJs honored to "punch the clock" in regard to their work hours. For the new ALJs that do not know this, yes, as a an ALJ, professional, United States Judge, you are monitored as to your work hours down to 15 minute intervals. Currently we hand sign in when we show up at work, and hand sign out when we leave, with hand annotation as to our credit hours, leave etc. For TW days we also submit a handsigned sheet of what hours we work. It is a matter of professional trust as to your handsigned submittals. This will all change now. For the new hires, and current ALJs the SSA is switching to an electronic sign in and out. Your work hours will now be logged down to the singular minute(s) you log in and out of your computer, on work, leave, TW etc. Note your computer will self log out about every 10 mins(?) if the mouse is not moved. Your coffee and bathroom breaks need to be speedy. Last I heard, electronic time and leave for ALJs is discretionary. (If that has changed, the memo hasn't hit my office.) But once you sign up, you can't go back. I stuck with paper. The electronic system is often down. Your computer use is tracked anyway through a separate system. No connection. |
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Post by Gaidin on Jun 15, 2016 13:38:19 GMT -5
I find that as a non-hourly, salaried, professional to have to punch a time clock as to the work minutes and hours is very counterproductive. One more than one occasion as an ALJ I have worked (I enjoy work) outside expected work hours; only to be instructed "Yeah, uh...yeah, uh, don't do that". One would think that with a million case backlog and bad ALJ's in the news, that those beings in the know would realize that encouraging ALJs to work as much as possible when and where they can would be the preferred method of operation, rather than severely limiting ALJs to clocking in and out specific minutes of the day as to when and where they can work. But I digress and mine is not to reason why. My case production is up there, my AC remand is down there and I get paid every other Friday. It is what it is and I love doing what I do. Smile and move on. But then some pesky attorney would sue for labor law violations. |
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Post by rusty on Jun 16, 2016 5:49:35 GMT -5
I noticed some time ago, the robe topic was a side interest. Having not received the call at the time, I was not going to chime in. But I peeked in the closet yesterday and checked the label on my robes from my state court days. I have two because when I "rode a circuit" of a two county jurisdiction and kept a robe in each office. The state ordered my robes for me, but they were my property and monogrammed with my large 3 initials on the label inside. I had a lot of choices in the construction as to velcro, zippers, pockets, buttons and such. I chose a tropical wool material; the robe is still pretty substantial, but considered a year round fabric. I shunned the light weight fabrics which reminded me of HS graduation gowns and personally, I wanted to "feel the weight" as I donned the robe each time. I chose buttons to close, as velcro didn't seem appropriate. Buttons are slower than a zipper, but do give more freedom to reach inside between the buttons like for access to a shirt pocket. My robes did not have pockets, but had slash openings on the side which allow access to front and back pants pockets; this is a minor consideration as I did not wear the robe all over the courthouse, but I did run into locked doors from time to time and needed my keys. I checked the label in my robe this morning and it was made by Bentley & Simon. I searched for a web page, but did not find one. Here are the links I found. www.politico.com/story/2009/06/where-the-justices-shop-023317oakhalli.com/Bentley-and-Simon/ |
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Post by onepingonly on Jun 16, 2016 7:42:10 GMT -5
I noticed some time ago, the robe topic was a side interest. Having not received the call at the time, I was not going to chime in. But I peeked in the closet yesterday and checked the label on my robes from my state court days. I have two because when I "rode a circuit" of a two county jurisdiction and kept a robe in each office. The state ordered my robes for me, but they were my property and monogrammed with my large 3 initials on the label inside. I had a lot of choices in the construction as to velcro, zippers, pockets, buttons and such. I chose a tropical wool material; the robe is still pretty substantial, but considered a year round fabric. I shunned the light weight fabrics which reminded me of HS graduation gowns and personally, I wanted to "feel the weight" as I donned the robe each time. I chose buttons to close, as velcro didn't seem appropriate. Buttons are slower than a zipper, but do give more freedom to reach inside between the buttons like for access to a shirt pocket. My robes did not have pockets, but had slash openings on the side which allow access to front and back pants pockets; this is a minor consideration as I did not wear the robe all over the courthouse, but I did run into locked doors from time to time and needed my keys. I checked the label in my robe this morning and it was made by Bentley & Simon. I searched for a web page, but did not find one. Here are the links I found. www.politico.com/story/2009/06/where-the-justices-shop-023317oakhalli.com/Bentley-and-Simon/Mine is exactly the same. You show good judgment. ;-) |
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Post by bac on Jun 16, 2016 15:11:29 GMT -5
Now, what does "ALJ" stand for?
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Post by order on Jun 16, 2016 15:23:07 GMT -5
Now, what does "ALJ" stand for? Busted out the Pappy already, did you? Congratulations! |
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Post by hopefalj on Jun 16, 2016 20:50:43 GMT -5
I find that as a non-hourly, salaried, professional to have to punch a time clock as to the work minutes and hours is very counterproductive. One more than one occasion as an ALJ I have worked (I enjoy work) outside expected work hours; only to be instructed "Yeah, uh...yeah, uh, don't do that". One would think that with a million case backlog and bad ALJ's in the news, that those beings in the know would realize that encouraging ALJs to work as much as possible when and where they can would be the preferred method of operation, rather than severely limiting ALJs to clocking in and out specific minutes of the day as to when and where they can work. But I digress and mine is not to reason why. My case production is up there, my AC remand is down there and I get paid every other Friday. It is what it is and I love doing what I do. Smile and move on. So does this mean you are not allowed to work late? Papa's office may be different, but judges have had no problem working off the clock in the three offices I've been in. Signing in/out on the computer is no different than signing in/out on paper unless you're the type of person that likes to sign in and then chat around the office for 30-45 minutes before turning the computer on. Signing in and out is 1000 times better and more convenient than billing tenths of an hour all day every day, IMO. Right now if you don't move your mouse for 15 minutes your computer locks up, but then you can just unlock it. I'm not sure if 10 minutes is a change or papa was just mentioning this aspect of the job. |
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Post by jagvet on Jun 16, 2016 21:43:38 GMT -5
The new ALJs coming in should note that they are very likely going to be the very first ALJs honored to "punch the clock" in regard to their work hours. For the new ALJs that do not know this, yes, as a an ALJ, professional, United States Judge, you are monitored as to your work hours down to 15 minute intervals. Currently we hand sign in when we show up at work, and hand sign out when we leave, with hand annotation as to our credit hours, leave etc. For TW days we also submit a handsigned sheet of what hours we work. It is a matter of professional trust as to your handsigned submittals. This will all change now. For the new hires, and current ALJs the SSA is switching to an electronic sign in and out. Your work hours will now be logged down to the singular minute(s) you log in and out of your computer, on work, leave, TW etc. Note your computer will self log out about every 10 mins(?) if the mouse is not moved. Your coffee and bathroom breaks need to be speedy. I'll bet you can buy something on Amazon or Brookstone that vibrates the mouse every so often in case you're indisposed, asleep, or getting a haircut. What do you think? [Just kidding if you're from the IG office]. |
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Post by rusty on Jun 17, 2016 21:10:56 GMT -5
What color are the TPS report forms?
Does the computer auto-logging out affect our WENUS?
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Post by christina on Jun 17, 2016 21:14:57 GMT -5
Saw some comments about webta. It's great!! Much more convenient than paper timekeeping.
I've done paper and webta and strongly prefer webta. So don't sweat that.
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Post by christina on Jun 18, 2016 6:50:53 GMT -5
I find that as a non-hourly, salaried, professional to have to punch a time clock as to the work minutes and hours is very counterproductive. One more than one occasion as an ALJ I have worked (I enjoy work) outside expected work hours; only to be instructed "Yeah, uh...yeah, uh, don't do that". One would think that with a million case backlog and bad ALJ's in the news, that those beings in the know would realize that encouraging ALJs to work as much as possible when and where they can would be the preferred method of operation, rather than severely limiting ALJs to clocking in and out specific minutes of the day as to when and where they can work. But I digress and mine is not to reason why. My case production is up there, my AC remand is down there and I get paid every other Friday. It is what it is and I love doing what I do. Smile and move on. Could not agree more...... and tigerlaw noted ......It's not a problem about the 10 minutes of inactivity as far as I believe as I can do that while holding a hearings if I get into a long exchange with someone. Me- exactly. i hope this continues to be mindset, and i think your computer logging off during a hearing because you are you know talking(kind the point of a hearing) can be a minor inconvenience to a pita so be forewarned. |
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