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Post by shadowyfigure on Aug 9, 2016 15:26:13 GMT -5
Yes I got the language about not being the highest scoring subgroup.
It is a form letter addressed to ALJ applicant, so not sure if place in alphabet made difference in notification time.
The language of the letter suggests that those denied get notified first. It also suggests that appeal rights (which will be included in future communication) cannot be exercised until after examination process is completed for all applicants.
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Post by Quiet Thunder on Aug 9, 2016 15:31:18 GMT -5
With respect to PDRI, I did a Google search and came up with this: "In FY15, PDRI was awarded the OPM “USAHire Support Services” BPA under our IT Schedule. Under this BPA, PDRI provides support services for the USA Hire Program, to enabling OPM to provide human resources related products and services to their current and future agency clients."
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Post by Lawesome on Aug 9, 2016 15:33:47 GMT -5
Yes I got the language about not being the highest scoring subgroup. It is a form letter addressed to ALJ applicant, so not sure if place in alphabet made difference in notification time. The language of the letter suggests that those denied get notified first. It also suggests that appeal rights (which will be included in future communication) cannot be exercised until after examination process is completed for all applicants. I came out of hiding (lurking) to thank you for telling us of your email. Hopefully, your trip to DC is merely delayed until later.
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Post by enigma on Aug 9, 2016 15:37:02 GMT -5
So I am new to this board and the alj application process. I have lurked for about a week and a half as I wait patiently, silently, and prayerfully for a DC Invite.
Thank you for sharing your news hopefully you are merely delayed and not denied!
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Post by codefed on Aug 9, 2016 16:07:57 GMT -5
Yes I got the language about not being the highest scoring subgroup. It is a form letter addressed to ALJ applicant, so not sure if place in alphabet made difference in notification time. The language of the letter suggests that those denied get notified first. It also suggests that appeal rights (which will be included in future communication) cannot be exercised until after examination process is completed for all applicants. Thank you so much for sharing with the group and verifying earlier Intel on the FOAD situation. I appreciate it greatly. As a first time poster, I haven't had much to say and otherwise have made good use of the search function.
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Post by charlsiekate on Aug 9, 2016 16:10:46 GMT -5
Would y'all agree that this new development is a clear diversion from the previous distribution of results of the online testing/DC invitation phase of the process? And that therefore we cannot/should not rely on what happened at this stage last time?
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 9, 2016 16:20:04 GMT -5
I'm so sorry for the news that you received about not moving on to the next round. It is very kind of you to let the rest of us know that those emails are going out!! Thank you for being so generous and sharing the intel, especially while you are on the receiving end of bad news. Keep your chins up though! Remember that there were many who were not invited to DC in 2013 but then later invited in 2015 (the second highest scoring group) and many of them are on the registry with pretty good NOR scores. There's always the possibility of a second chance! Many of them are sitting in class with me.
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Post by bayou on Aug 9, 2016 16:22:46 GMT -5
Would y'all agree that this new development is a clear diversion from the previous distribution of results of the online testing/DC invitation phase of the process? And that therefore we cannot/should not rely on what happened at this stage last time? I wasn't around in 2013 so I'm not sure what is the deviation to which you refer. I thought it was the same sequence, FOADs first then I invites.
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Post by charlsiekate on Aug 9, 2016 16:38:56 GMT -5
bayou - I was confused by these posts - i read them to mean the status changed, people were invited and then the FOAD letters came out, but that is not correct. The two different rounds make it even more confusing. Mjǿlner, there doesn't appear to be a set pattern - or perhaps that IS the set pattern? Eg., I didn't get my foad until a full year after everyone got their "you may now proceed" email. I don't mean to question juristguy77, I was just trying to point out that it seems a little odd that he heard from "a few colleagues" that they were not moving on, yet none of the other hundreds, if not thousands, of members of the Board have heard from a single person getting a FOAD. Statistically this seems improbable, but improbable does not mean that it is impossible. More to point, it is inconsistent with prior OPM practices, which have involved status changes, then FOAD emails, then invites to the next stage.
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Post by hopingforalj on Aug 9, 2016 16:47:09 GMT -5
PDRI was granted the OPM contract in 2015, they may have changed the notification process, as that is part of their contracted assignments, just a thought.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 9, 2016 19:46:03 GMT -5
Now my heart skips a beat when I go to my inbox and see the "USA Jobs notification" but it's just my search alerts ("entymologist, subspecialty in crickets, their calls, and behaviors"
Good luck to all--good mail, bad mail, we all need it!
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Post by Pixie on Aug 9, 2016 19:53:48 GMT -5
Yes I got the language about not being the highest scoring subgroup. It is a form letter addressed to ALJ applicant, so not sure if place in alphabet made difference in notification time. The language of the letter suggests that those denied get notified first. It also suggests that appeal rights (which will be included in future communication) cannot be exercised until after examination process is completed for all applicants. Thank you so much for sharing with the group and verifying earlier Intel on the FOAD situation. I appreciate it greatly. As a first time poster, I haven't had much to say and otherwise have made good use of the search function. Thank you. Three marks for you. Welcome to the Board. Pixie
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Post by SaveMeASeat on Aug 9, 2016 20:26:14 GMT -5
Received my interim notice email yesterday telling me I had not made the cut for the next round of the ALJ application. Foiled by Part II again Thanks for sharing this difficult news. Never Give Up.
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Post by christina on Aug 9, 2016 20:39:17 GMT -5
Received my interim notice email yesterday telling me I had not made the cut for the next round of the ALJ application. Foiled by Part II again Thanks for sharing this difficult news. Never Give Up. Cr... shadowyfigure. Not an email I enjoyed getting in 2013
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Post by phoenixrisingALJ on Aug 9, 2016 21:00:54 GMT -5
All who are receiving FOADs at this stage of the game - you all have my sympathy...I am still in limbo so may receive the notice so I say this next part in all sincerity - remember to keep hope and spirits up - seems like OPM tested in batches last time and given the high number of applicants this spring - I am very sure the same thing will happen again... i.e they will run the first batch of applicants through that hit some magic number - and then once those folks have mosied through the process - they will notify a 2d batch for testing. So keep checking back here on the board and checking your email and do not assume this is th end of the journey.
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Post by firehouse9 on Aug 9, 2016 21:02:23 GMT -5
Now my heart skips a beat when I go to my inbox and see the "USA Jobs notification" but it's just my search alerts ("entymologist, subspecialty in crickets, their calls, and behaviors" Try not to let that bug you
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Post by Thru Hiker on Aug 10, 2016 6:34:44 GMT -5
Received my interim notice email yesterday telling me I had not made the cut for the next round of the ALJ application. Foiled by Part II again I too am still in limbo at this posting, don't give up the ship, know that some members' applications were resurrected by an appeal. I know two personally who are now baby ALJs, it just took about a year or two for that to evolve. i think the storms of unresolved appeals still beckon, and this is just a sea anchor that will allow you to keep the bow headed into the wind, handle the coming waves, repair and make the vessel more sea worthy . . . better for the next storm. i really do commiserate . . .
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Post by maine on Aug 10, 2016 6:43:44 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the FOAD letters go out in one batch? I've searched the forum but couldn't seem to find an answer (if there is one). It seems if the scoring is relative they would have to score everybody first, wouldn't they? Every time I tell myself I am going to try to not think about this process, I learn something and start feeling anxious.
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Post by gary on Aug 10, 2016 7:13:18 GMT -5
I think all the online tests are scored and they are first notifying those who are not in the higher scoring subgroup. The volume of emails is great so they did not send them all out at the same time but are rather rolling them out over several days.
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Post by maine on Aug 10, 2016 7:18:05 GMT -5
I think all the online tests are scored and they are first notifying those who are not in the higher scoring subgroup. The volume of emails is great so they did not send them all out at the same time but are rather rolling them out over several days. Thank you for that info. To quote Lloyd Christmas "so you're telling me there's a chance?" The job market for good legal jobs is so brutal it just feels like a matter of time before I get kicked out of the process. We'll see I guess.
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