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Post by Pixie on Aug 9, 2016 16:53:37 GMT -5
I'm an outsider as a solo practicing Immigration. Figured it was better to go through all the the threads and learn the lingo before opening keyboard and inserting foot. I' ve learned a lot, laughed a lot and anxiously awaiting results with everyone else from the class of 2016. Good for you. Three marks in the positive side of the ledger. I wish more newbies thought that way. And welcome to the Board.
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Post by funkyodar on Aug 9, 2016 17:33:15 GMT -5
I agree with those that say let the lurkers lurk.
I lurked a bit before joining. Lurked a bit after too. Then all funk broke loose. I posted Intel I got as an insider not because I wanted any kind of cosmic points but because this community was the only place I could commiserate with others going through this sometimes insane process. When I got info that gave me some insight, I just couldn't imagine not sharing it with people that might also find some solace in it. Didn't care if they were lurkers, friends or tigers.
And I also fell in the trap of speculating, swagging, wagging and pontificating. So much so that I breezed through "member," "senior member" and on into "legend."
I threw out theories that ended up correct and many many that ended up way wrong. I picked fights and got picked into fights. I allowed the process to consume so much time and, having very few friends IRL that were in the process and having no interest in other social media, this board became pretty much an obsession.
In ways that's an incredibly good thing. I really feel I wouldn't have got the job without the board's support and vast array of collective knowledge. And I have made friends here that have gone from virtual to real.
But I also turned around one day and saw I had somehow become one of the top 5 or 6 most posting members. And I realized that a very large percentage of what I was posting was things I had posted a year or more ago.
In short, the boards absolutely awesome. But don't get too wrapped in it. The same, even more so, goes to the process itself. In the end it's just a job.
I say let lurkers lurk. Let those that feel compelled to pontificate and swag, pontificate and swag. Those with Intel, share. Or if you think keeping it to yourself gives you some advantage and you are that petty, keep it to yourself. Take what you want from this resource. Give back if that's your nature. Follow the campsite rule. Use it but leave it better than you found it. And for some folks, that means keeping their mouth shut.
Just my 2/100ths.
Funky
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Post by funkyodar on Aug 9, 2016 17:42:26 GMT -5
Arrghh, don't ask that question! Tiger was exiled and Funky self-exiled. It was not pretty. Sealaw is correct, after a very vicious battle, I was banned for 7 days and Funky self banned himself. If you ever get the chance to meet Funky, you will know that he is that type of person to self-ban himself, even when it was not his fault! He is a great human being and one of my best friends in this stage of my life.
Having said that, if you ever get to meet Funky in person...."think Mr. Haney on Green Acres!" !
Tiger, you complete me. 😲
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 9, 2016 18:05:53 GMT -5
The Board should be limited to individuals who can find it. Kind of like Tortuga Island. Hah, you are so right! Having sailed there and eaten the best spiny lobster in my life was a true bucket list item. It is one thing to chart the course and quite another to sail it.
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 9, 2016 18:09:31 GMT -5
And since we seem to be voting on who can stay on the island, I say let them join and lurk, or post, at their own pace. Just like the thousands before them. If they can survive they will be valuable members and maybe good ALJs.
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Post by maine on Aug 9, 2016 18:39:03 GMT -5
I think it's pointless to worry about whether other people are contributing. Also keeping people out sounds like junior high cliques, which most people here were probably either part of or excluded from or both (count me as an uncool kid). I've posted very little because I don't have much of anything to add other than gratitude for people sharing information that has helped me so far. But I didn't post until there was something I thought I could add, but I benefited quite a bit before joining.
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Post by pumpkin on Aug 9, 2016 19:13:56 GMT -5
The Board should be limited to individuals who can find it. Kind of like Tortuga Island. Didn't they film an episode of Survivor there?
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Post by jagmom on Aug 9, 2016 21:48:45 GMT -5
I "lurked" for a couple of years before joining, because, frankly, I had nothing worthwhile to say.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." — ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
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Post by ALJD on Aug 9, 2016 22:09:36 GMT -5
If only there was a way to build a wall, you know to keep out all the illegal lurkers, you know, to Make this Board Great Again. I am [deleted by Hatch Act] and I approve this message.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 7:15:38 GMT -5
Sealaw is correct, after a very vicious battle, I was banned for 7 days and Funky self banned himself. If you ever get the chance to meet Funky, you will know that he is that type of person to self-ban himself, even when it was not his fault! He is a great human being and one of my best friends in this stage of my life.
Having said that, if you ever get to meet Funky in person...."think Mr. Haney on Green Acres!" !
Tiger, you complete me. 😲 Oh gawd.
Now I just feel all....icky.
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Post by trekker on Aug 10, 2016 8:06:17 GMT -5
I want to know about people getting the job, even if they have not contributed to the Board in any other way. It increases the knowledge on the Board about hiring by SSA. I'm afraid I must disagree with the proposal. First off, I agree with ALJD and Pixie. It is what it is. I'm just not keeping up and should have remembered the "new" registration requirements. Secondly, I heartily disagree with gary. We have a coffee pool at work. We know who contributes and pretty much who sneaks a cup. Little bad Karma transgressions throughout life add up. For the perennial lurker who just takes, when you are in the nursing home late in life you may be surrounded by care givers and fellow old folk just like you. Totally believe in Karma and how it comes back to bite you someday. But the best part of privateatty's response is the nursing home outcome. I am part of a group of legal aid attorneys who take on SSA and SNFs (skilled nursing facility) and ALFs (assisted living facility). We know that no LTC (long term care) facility will ever accept us so our back up plan is to start one just for attorneys who made life miserable for facilities who made life totally unbearable for our clients (seniors who just want to smoke and drink). And there are a lot of CNA's who hurt their back and apply for disability so just be nice to them if you are or become an ALJ - even if you are going to issue an unfavorable (which I totally understand). Alternatively, you could run for congress - especially the Senate which is the best LTC facility in the country. Think Strom Thurmond.
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Post by msp on Aug 10, 2016 8:24:06 GMT -5
If only there was a way to build a wall, you know to keep out all the illegal lurkers, you know, to Make this Board Great Again. Believe me, it'll be so unbelievable, it'll make your head spin.
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Post by Sensible1 on Aug 10, 2016 8:28:00 GMT -5
I must confess.....I am a lurker. I haven't found the need to post anything because I know nothing. Moreover, what I seek to know has already been discussed and a simple search always leads me in the right directions. I do vote in applicable polls. I appreciate everyone for so freely sharing their knowledge and information.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 10, 2016 8:29:35 GMT -5
I want to know about people getting the job, even if they have not contributed to the Board in any other way. It increases the knowledge on the Board about hiring by SSA. I'm afraid I must disagree with the proposal. First off, I agree with ALJD and Pixie. It is what it is. I'm just not keeping up and should have remembered the "new" registration requirements. Secondly, I heartily disagree with gary. We have a coffee pool at work. We know who contributes and pretty much who sneaks a cup. Little bad Karma transgressions throughout life add up. For the perennial lurker who just takes, when you are in the nursing home late in life you may be surrounded by care givers and fellow old folk just like you. Privateatty do not get your knickers in a bunch. We need to be more inclusive and not so exclusive. I am all for the saying "the more the merrier". I do not want to exclude individuals from the Board who chose not to officially join as such an idea smacks of an exclusive club. Next thing you know, we would be excluding people based upon the color, religion, political view, etc. Nothing hurts freedom more than exclusion. We live in America where we include, not exclude. If we become exclusive I think you will lose members from this Board. I for one will not belong to an exclusive site. Already, we do not let such individuals vote in our polls or post to our Board. Now, you want to exclude lurkers from even viewing at all. Let people look, it's like window shopping, it doesn't hurt anyone and in the end it may indeed cause them to actually join as members.
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Post by hondo35 on Aug 10, 2016 10:18:58 GMT -5
One can lurk as a member. I don't think privateatty is saying that you cannot reap the benefits of this Board if you don't contribute by posting. But he is saying that membership should be required for viewing as well as posting.
But I'm a little confused; doesn't registering make you a member?
And Pixie and @aljd, I don't want to get into a bidding war, but you all are worth 5 times your current commission! 6 times, even! That's great AF. In a PM I have given you my address, please send all checks there. They will be appreciated. Send me the ones for aljd as well. Pixie Okay...I had to look again to see to whom Pixie was responding, because I thought "Wow! I'm no prude, but I've never heard Pix use such language before." 'That's great AF' could have a completely different meaning.
The other thing that worries me is she could get 'Seinfeld-wrist' from signing hundreds of 3 cent checks.
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Post by privateatty on Aug 10, 2016 15:26:49 GMT -5
First off, I agree with ALJD and Pixie. It is what it is. I'm just not keeping up and should have remembered the "new" registration requirements. Secondly, I heartily disagree with gary. We have a coffee pool at work. We know who contributes and pretty much who sneaks a cup. Little bad Karma transgressions throughout life add up. For the perennial lurker who just takes, when you are in the nursing home late in life you may be surrounded by care givers and fellow old folk just like you. Privateatty do not get your knickers in a bunch. We need to be more inclusive and not so exclusive. I am all for the saying "the more the merrier". I do not want to exclude individuals from the Board who chose not to officially join as such an idea smacks of an exclusive club. Next thing you know, we would be excluding people based upon the color, religion, political view, etc. Nothing hurts freedom more than exclusion. We live in America where we include, not exclude. By definition, this Board does not exist unless people join and post. There is no "club" unless the viewers are Members. Yes, this Board was created to be of service to those who begin the process of becoming a federal ALJ and yes, the overwhelming sentiment is to allow lurking and all that entails, so of course I will abide by the majority. And yes, I was being a cranky fut in making the Karma reference to lurkers. Sue me, I'm unrepentant. However, there is another subplot, if you will, to all of this. As Pixie has noted we seem to have a new crop of applicants who have problems reading the directions to join and concomitantly, we have (perhaps these same folks) who don't want to do the research and are asking very basic questions that have been asked and answered, ad nauseum. Your question is only as good as the answerer. If you want to burn out the Board, don't research the question and don't use the search function. funky is already a casualty, perhaps (next to gary and gaidin--the latter in Judge school) the Member who has mostly shown a Mother Teresa level of patience over the years and devoted many scores of hours to this noble endeavor. If you got through law school then you know the basics of legal research. Please help yourselves by helping the Board. Thank you.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 11, 2016 9:11:14 GMT -5
Privateatty do not get your knickers in a bunch. We need to be more inclusive and not so exclusive. I am all for the saying "the more the merrier". I do not want to exclude individuals from the Board who chose not to officially join as such an idea smacks of an exclusive club. Next thing you know, we would be excluding people based upon the color, religion, political view, etc. Nothing hurts freedom more than exclusion. We live in America where we include, not exclude. By definition, this Board does not exist unless people join and post. There is no "club" unless the viewers are Members. Yes, this Board was created to be of service to those who begin the process of becoming a federal ALJ and yes, the overwhelming sentiment is to allow lurking and all that entails, so of course I will abide by the majority. And yes, I was being a cranky fut in making the Karma reference to lurkers. Sue me, I'm unrepentant. However, there is another subplot, if you will, to all of this. As Pixie has noted we seem to have a new crop of applicants who have problems reading the directions to join and concomitantly, we have (perhaps these same folks) who don't want to do the research and are asking very basic questions that have been asked and answered, ad nauseum. Your question is only as good as the answerer. If you want to burn out the Board, don't research the question and don't use the search function. funky is already a casualty, perhaps (next to gary and gaidin--the latter in Judge school) the Member who has mostly shown a Mother Teresa level of patience over the years and devoted many scores of hours to this noble endeavor. If you got through law school then you know the basics of legal research. Please help yourselves by helping the Board. Thank you. You are correct sir in regards to a few of the "newbies". Laziness is not a virtue any agency is looking for in an ALJ. I can tell you as an ALJ that laziness will bury you in this position. You need to stay on top of things and become self-sufficient, not rely on others to give you all your answers. Learn from the Jedi Master Yoda (privateatty) that you need to know how to search for things on this Board first prior to asking a questions. If you search and do not find the answer, then you may state you did a search and could find an answer, so you are therefore asking the question. However, be warned if you are just stating you searched and you didn't, others on this Board will out you as a liar. Lastly, privateatty, no worries about you being cranky. We all have a bad day or week here or there. You are fine with me my friend. I was just trying to "bust your chops" a little with my response. I apologize for my somewhat sardonic "off the cuff" remarks.
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Post by stevil on Aug 11, 2016 10:27:26 GMT -5
Just so you know, the search function works exceedingly poorly for some with IT nearly as old as they are. It's a poor workman that blames his tools, but if the shoe fits, wear it and grin and bear it!
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Post by anotherfed on Aug 11, 2016 10:41:19 GMT -5
I'VE GOT IT!!!!
New registrants cannot become full members until they fulfill the following requirements: 1) Use the search function 5 times, 2) Review all the threads posted in the first two panes of the General Board, 3) Change avatar hair color at least 3 times, and
4) Come up with a catchy avatar name ("Aplcnt436" does not count as catchy; see e.g., "pumpkin ," "judgymcjudgypants ," "funkyodar ").
'Cause Pixie and ALJD have nothing better to do with their spare time than to monitor this progression.
P.S. -- If the above proposal is implemented, I recommend giving Pixie and ALJD a 50% raise (this is, of course, in addition to all the advertising revenue they cart off on a weekly basis)
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Post by sophie22 on Aug 11, 2016 13:14:26 GMT -5
I'VE GOT IT!!!!
New registrants cannot become full members until they fulfill the following requirements: 1) Use the search function 5 times, 2) Review all the threads posted in the first two panes of the General Board, 3) Change avatar hair color at least 3 times, and
4) Come up with a catchy avatar name ("Aplcnt436" does not count as catchy; see e.g., "pumpkin ," "judgymcjudgypants ," "funkyodar ").
'Cause Pixie and ALJD have nothing better to do with their spare time than to monitor this progression.
P.S. -- If the above proposal is implemented, I recommend giving Pixie and ALJD a 50% raise (this is, of course, in addition to all the advertising revenue they cart off on a weekly basis) Sound it out....it's catchier than you think! LOL!!!!
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