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Post by Pixie on Aug 24, 2018 12:27:29 GMT -5
My thoughts are with both his family and law enforcement involved in this tragedy. Out of respect for them and him, could we switch to a new topic?Thank you. Yes, let's move on to something else. Pixie |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 16:39:23 GMT -5
Not going to lie, I chuckled audibly. hey, remember folks, Federal Judges get a capitol J. The Federal Judiciary is all about important things. Well since Lucia came out, I would not be surprised if ALJ positions went back to being referred to as hearing examiners, administrative reviewer, or some other title that does not include the term “judge.” Maybe it was a misnomer to refer to that position as a judge in the first instance? Is the ALJ position really a judge position? Are the persons who hold the position a real “judge”? Does only the Judiciary house “real” judges? What is a “real” judge anyway? Does that also mean there are “fake” judges too? Can we have one without the other? If I were an ALJ, I would not care what I was called as long as I got the $170,000.00 per year paycheck. |
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Post by phoenixrakkasan on Aug 24, 2018 17:10:30 GMT -5
Service is the motivation for this Inferior Officer, a.ka., Judge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 23:54:56 GMT -5
I was being facetious .
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Post by magisterludi on Sept 10, 2018 22:39:13 GMT -5
www.acus.gov/research-projects/selection-administrative-law-judgesThis project addresses the processes and procedures agency heads should consider establishing for exercising their authority under Executive Order 13,843 (July 13, 2018) to hire administrative law judges (ALJs). Topics include the procedures governing recruitment, examination, and evaluation. (The project does not address selection criteria.) The project proceeds from the recognition that it may not be suitable for all agencies to adopt uniform hiring procedures.
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Post by Pixie on Sept 11, 2018 8:39:12 GMT -5
I doubt this "Project" will have much effect on the agencies. It may provide guidance which the agencies may adopt as they see fit.
It actually struck me as a bit presumptuous for the Administrative Conference to take it upon itself to develop procedures agency heads should consider in hiring ALJs. I think the SSA has sufficient experience in this field that its agency head can figure out for herself. Pixie
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Post by Pixie on Sept 11, 2018 13:09:39 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see how much, if any, of the guidance developed by the Project is followed by SSA. Precious little I'll wager, unless it suits the Agency's agenda. Having perhaps gotten out from under the thumb of OPM, I think SSA is ready to paddle its own canoe. Pixie
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Post by Mermaid on Sept 11, 2018 13:38:07 GMT -5
SSA does not own a canoe.
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Post by phoenixrisingALJ on Sept 11, 2018 13:58:26 GMT -5
SSA does not own a canoe. Hmmm - what about an invisible canoe - you know like Wonder Woman has an invisible plane. Personally though I preferred the lasso of truth as a cool tool over the invisible plane.
All jokes aside - I assume you are predicting that it will be best to be upstream from all the sh*t that will flow down stream once someone comes up with a legal basis to sue.
What I do know is one of these agencies better figure out a way to hire because work flow on agency cases is going to back up more than it already has. ALJs are retiring and with no replacements on the horizon - the cases will start to sit longer.
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Post by foghorn on Sept 11, 2018 13:59:16 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see how much, if any, of the guidance developed by the Project is followed by SSA. Precious little I'll wager, unless it suits the Agency's agenda. Having perhaps gotten out from under the thumb of OPM, I think SSA is ready to paddle its own canoe. Pixie
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Post by Mermaid on Sept 11, 2018 15:52:34 GMT -5
SSA does not own a canoe. Hmmm - what about an invisible canoe - you know like Wonder Woman has an invisible plane. Personally though I preferred the lasso of truth as a cool tool over the invisible plane.
All jokes aside - I assume you are predicting that it will be best to be upstream from all the sh*t that will flow down stream once someone comes up with a legal basis to sue.
What I do know is one of these agencies better figure out a way to hire because work flow on agency cases is going to back up more than it already has. ALJs are retiring and with no replacements on the horizon - the cases will start to sit longer.
Something like that. While the language in the EO does seem to give agencies the discretion to hire ALJs, the reality is that when it comes to ALJ hiring no agency is anywhere close to being captain of its own vessel. We need rulemaking before we can get to that point. Agencies can plan all they want at the moment, and announce their plans if they wish, but they will have no authority to hire until the fat lady sings (that is Congress in case anyone is wondering). And if agencies choose a different path (under guidance from TPTB within the administration) then they will hear from the choir in black robes (Federal judges). |
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Post by christina on Sept 11, 2018 17:59:45 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see how much, if any, of the guidance developed by the Project is followed by SSA. Precious little I'll wager, unless it suits the Agency's agenda. Having perhaps gotten out from under the thumb of OPM, I think SSA is ready to paddle its own canoe. Pixie
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Post by gary on Sept 13, 2018 16:56:08 GMT -5
Whenever they get to the point of hiring, will SSA reinterview previously-interviewed candidates?
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Post by catwoman333 on Sept 13, 2018 18:48:02 GMT -5
So now the magic want has been passed to SSA, what will they want to do? In what direction will they paddle the canoe of employment, with whom will they load it, and how will they handle selection? Aspiring voyageurs would like to know!
😂 Regardless of what SSA does, all we aspiring ALJs can do is PREPARE AND HOPE FOR THE BEST: |
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Post by ssa on Sept 13, 2018 20:32:31 GMT -5
Whenever they get to the point of hiring, will SSA reinterview previously-interviewed candidates? My WAG is yes. |
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Post by roymcavoy on Sept 13, 2018 20:57:55 GMT -5
Whenever they get to the point of hiring, will SSA reinterview previously-interviewed candidates? My WAG is yes. Are we operating under an assumption that SSA will (1) use the list from opm and hire from it or (2) that they will retest?? Under the first one, I don’t think they need to reinterview. Under the second, I think they may have to. |
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Post by catwoman333 on Sept 13, 2018 21:26:13 GMT -5
Are we operating under an assumption that SSA will (1) use the list from opm and hire from it or (2) that they will retest?? Under the first one, I don’t think they need to reinterview. Under the second, I think they may have to. Who knows until they tell us. I am no expert in how fed. gov and OPM function, but it just doesn't make any sense that OPM would want to devote so much staff time and resources to score hundreds of 2018 exams post-EO if they thought it would be a waste of time, they would be tossed out. My best guess is they OPM/SSA officials met shortly after the EO was issued, discussed the effect of EO on OPM and SSA (and other agencies), then agreed to proceed with 2018 test grading because they knew the hiring agencies wanted/would use those scores for screening and/or evaluating future ALJ hires. OPM's emails offering to send passing scores to SSA only reinforces that hunch. If retesting (or a new test format) is mandated, I hope it will be offered through regional offices closer to candidates' home states. For me, airfare to DC, expensive DC hotels, meals etc. were a HUGE expense I'd just as soon not have to repeat! |
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Post by Pixie on Sept 13, 2018 22:13:47 GMT -5
Are we operating under an assumption that SSA will (1) use the list from opm and hire from it or (2) that they will retest?? Under the first one, I don’t think they need to reinterview. Under the second, I think they may have to. Who knows until they tell us. I am no expert in how fed. gov and OPM function, but it just doesn't make any sense that OPM would want to devote so much staff time and resources to score hundreds of 2018 exams post-EO if they thought it would be a waste of time, they would be tossed out. My best guess is they OPM/SSA officials met shortly after the EO was issued, discussed the effect of EO on OPM and SSA (and other agencies), then agreed to proceed with 2018 test grading because they knew the hiring agencies wanted/would use those scores for screening and/or evaluating future ALJ hires. OPM's emails offering to send passing scores to SSA only reinforces that hunch. If retesting (or a new test format) is mandated, I hope it will be offered through regional offices closer to candidates' home states. For me, airfare to DC, expensive DC hotels, meals etc. were a HUGE expense I'd just as soon not have to repeat! Don't bank on it.Haven't you read any of my posts about what the Agency wants in a candidate? Pixie |
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Post by Pixie on Sept 13, 2018 22:23:21 GMT -5
Whenever they get to the point of hiring, will SSA reinterview previously-interviewed candidates? Unfortunately, I don't think so. In my model, SSA will want mostly known insiders; the outsiders will be left on the outside. It will become a closed society. Of course litigation could change all of this. Pixie |
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Post by 2rvrrun on Sept 13, 2018 22:28:19 GMT -5
Who knows until they tell us. I am no expert in how fed. gov and OPM function, but it just doesn't make any sense that OPM would want to devote so much staff time and resources to score hundreds of 2018 exams post-EO if they thought it would be a waste of time, they would be tossed out. My best guess is they OPM/SSA officials met shortly after the EO was issued, discussed the effect of EO on OPM and SSA (and other agencies), then agreed to proceed with 2018 test grading because they knew the hiring agencies wanted/would use those scores for screening and/or evaluating future ALJ hires. OPM's emails offering to send passing scores to SSA only reinforces that hunch. If retesting (or a new test format) is mandated, I hope it will be offered through regional offices closer to candidates' home states. For me, airfare to DC, expensive DC hotels, meals etc. were a HUGE expense I'd just as soon not have to repeat! Don't bank on it.Haven't you read any of my posts about what the Agency wants in a candidate? Pixie I think Pixie is a wise one. If you read the old posts on this blog, you certainly do not get a picture of OPM//SSA officials getting together to discuss the EO. As I understand it, there was a long period when SSA could not fill needed ALJ positions because OPM did not provide enough names. After Congressional pressure, OPM agreed to administer more ALJ tests. SSA will now be able to "captain its own ship" so to speak. |
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