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Post by hopefalj on Jun 30, 2020 11:56:43 GMT -5
ALJs are required to have a license to practice law, and applicants must have an active license to screen through. However, license does not have to remain active once appointed. I think that change happened 8-10 years ago, and IIRC it was slightly controversial at the time because it was felt to threaten ALJ independence (ahh... the good ol' days). But I still keep mine active JFTHOI. I do, too, because my state waves CLE for judges. Essentially I just have to pay the fees/taxes every year, which seems far more convenient than potentially having to resurrect my license down the road once I'm replaced by Watson.
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Post by shoocat on Jun 30, 2020 17:12:09 GMT -5
I love that Tennessee, one of the states where I am licensed, specifically exempts SS ALJs from CLE, but not other ALJs.
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Post by southerner on Jul 9, 2020 6:57:51 GMT -5
This is rather disconcerting but not overly surprising given the mindset displayed.
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Post by southerner on Jul 9, 2020 7:00:14 GMT -5
In Louisiana, federal ALJ's are classified as federal judges and are exempt from bar dues, disciplinary fee assessments, and CLE requirements. State judges are not exempt.
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jul 9, 2020 9:19:20 GMT -5
In the District of Columbia, no one needs CLE, dues are low, and there is maximum reciprocity with other jurisdictions. If I had a friend or relative in law school, I would recommend taking the D.C. bar exam before any other.
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Post by roonie on Jul 9, 2020 21:53:08 GMT -5
Just FYI, some states like Georgia, where I am barred, will waive CLEs for any attorney living out of state and not representing Georgia clients or practicing Georgia law. Yea! for living in Virginia
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jul 9, 2020 23:33:19 GMT -5
Georgia has almost as good reciprocity as the District of Columbia, and lets formerly let law students take their bar exam in February before graduation. [Edit: See below.]
I wish D.C. would do that!
For this [former] reason, some might pick[ed] Ga. as the best state for initial admission. I would rank[ed] it a close second -- somewhat less "prestigious" and not easily facilitating admission to the D.D.C. and D.C. Cir.
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Post by carrickfergus on Jul 10, 2020 10:10:20 GMT -5
GA barred also (Go Dawgs!), and CLEs are waived under the circumstances as indicated by roonie, but also if one is an ALJ. I made my case that ALJs fit the judge exemption when I was appointed in 2010, and got the positive answer straight from the bar president(RIP). So if you're an ALJ living in GA, you can argue that you are exempt from CLEs. Still have to pay dues to remain active.
I never knew that GA was a good choice for initial admission!?
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Post by shoocat on Jul 10, 2020 15:24:17 GMT -5
Just FYI, some states like Georgia, where I am barred, will waive CLEs for any attorney living out of state and not representing Georgia clients or practicing Georgia law. Yea! for living in Virginia I benefit from that one too.Yeah, Georgia and Tennessee!
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Post by shoocat on Jul 10, 2020 15:27:19 GMT -5
Georgia has almost as good reciprocity as the District of Columbia, and lets law students take their bar exam in February before graduation. I wish D.C. would do that! For this reason, some might pick Ga. as the best state for initial admission. I would rank it a close second -- somewhat less "prestigious" and not easily facilitating admission to the D.D.C. and D.C. Cir. I am not sure Georgia permits that anymore. When I was in law school they did and everyone who could took the February bar. As a result, it was the biggest. Now July is. Georgia has much better reciprocity now since it decided to have reciprocity. Previously, everybody had to take the bar in Georgia and since it gave no reciprocity, practically no one gave reciprocity to it...Tennessee being an exception. That is how I got admitted to the bar first in Georgia when it had no reciprocity and waived into Tennessee despite that lack of reciprocity because Tennessee didn't mandate that your state also give its members reciprocity to benefit from waiving in.
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Post by shoocat on Jul 10, 2020 15:31:25 GMT -5
Georgia has almost as good reciprocity as the District of Columbia, and lets law students take their bar exam in February before graduation. I wish D.C. would do that! For this reason, some might pick Ga. as the best state for initial admission. I would rank it a close second -- somewhat less "prestigious" and not easily facilitating admission to the D.D.C. and D.C. Cir. I am not sure Georgia permits that anymore. When I was in law school they did and everyone who could took the February bar. As a result, it was the biggest. Now July is. Georgia has much better reciprocity now since it decided to have reciprocity. Previously, everybody had to take the bar in Georgia and since it gave no reciprocity, practically no one gave reciprocity to it...Tennessee being an exception. That is how I got admitted to the bar first in Georgia when it had no reciprocity and waived into Tennessee despite that lack of reciprocity because Tennessee didn't mandate that your state also give its members reciprocity to benefit from waiving in. update:just checked and you now have to have graduated first to take the Georgia bar.
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Post by roonie on Jul 13, 2020 20:55:16 GMT -5
Georgia has almost as good reciprocity as the District of Columbia, and lets law students take their bar exam in February before graduation. I wish D.C. would do that! For this reason, some might pick Ga. as the best state for initial admission. I would rank it a close second -- somewhat less "prestigious" and not easily facilitating admission to the D.D.C. and D.C. Cir. I am not sure Georgia permits that anymore. When I was in law school they did and everyone who could took the February bar. As a result, it was the biggest. Now July is. Georgia has much better reciprocity now since it decided to have reciprocity. Previously, everybody had to take the bar in Georgia and since it gave no reciprocity, practically no one gave reciprocity to it...Tennessee being an exception. That is how I got admitted to the bar first in Georgia when it had no reciprocity and waived into Tennessee despite that lack of reciprocity because Tennessee didn't mandate that your state also give its members reciprocity to benefit from waiving in. They don’t let you take it until you graduate. Boo.
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