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Post by kylearan on Sept 10, 2020 23:34:31 GMT -5
This current candidate for Congress used to be an ALJ as recent as the summer of 19. Based on this, I’d hate to have appeared before him!  |
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Post by Synik on Sept 11, 2020 9:22:17 GMT -5
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Post by christina on Sept 11, 2020 18:28:33 GMT -5
This current candidate for Congress used to be an ALJ as recent as the summer of 19. Based on this, I’d hate to have appeared before him! View AttachmentSounds to me like he handles things N Carolina style. And that is meant as a compliment to N Carolinians. They don’t put up with .... (whatever they perceive .... to be) |
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Post by jagvet on Sept 11, 2020 19:21:24 GMT -5
I looked up Davis in Wikipedia. Quite an odd series of career moves. He got "fired" from the Guantanamo Commission and was appointed chief judge of the Air Force Court of Appeals! He seems a bit hotheaded. He's not likely to win in November. All the polls show the district as safe or likely Republican. Davis's opponent is Madison Cawthorn, the man with paraplegia in the wheelchair who spoke at the GOP convention recently.
As a former North Carolinian, I have to say that most politicians there are polite and respectful.
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Post by christina on Sept 11, 2020 20:08:28 GMT -5
I looked up Davis in Wikipedia. Quite an odd series of career moves. He got "fired" from the Guantanamo Commission and was appointed chief judge of the Air Force Court of Appeals! He seems a bit hotheaded. He's not likely to win in November. All the polls show the district as safe or likely Republican. Davis's opponent is Madison Cawthorn, the man with paraplegia in the wheelchair who spoke at the GOP convention recently. As a former North Carolinian, I have to say that most politicians there are polite and respectful. My apologies then to the n Carolinians. And that adds an element of coldness that he was referring to an individual in a wheelchair |
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Post by Rabbit Bat Reindeer on Sept 11, 2020 20:43:57 GMT -5
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Post by Loopstok on Sept 12, 2020 0:14:58 GMT -5
North Carolina politics are no less toxic than in any other state. The chicanery used to hamstring Democratic Governor Roy Cooper, the nasty so-don't-buy-a-dress-shirt responses caught on tape from an aide to GOP Senator Tillis... it's not exactly peaches down there in the state capital. News articles from last month show that Davis and Cawthorn are running neck and neck in NC-11 -- which is a bad sign for ol' dog-whistlin' Cawthorn in a district that red. Then again, a loss by 0.8 percentage points on Election Night is still a loss, and the Dems seem to lose an awful lot of House seats by 0.8 percentage points. |
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Post by Ace Midnight on Sept 12, 2020 10:35:47 GMT -5
So, were the men of Easy Company white supremacists, too? Sheesh - the downward spiral continues. |
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Post by stevil on Sept 12, 2020 16:33:47 GMT -5
Not sure why this thread is here, but my path crossed with Mo on numerous ocassions while JAGs in USAF. Just 2 examples:
One time, I was appointed to investigate the treatment of a student at an Air Force school Mo was an instructor at. My investigation proved that the student had not been treated fairly when they attempted to prevent her from graduating without even adhering to simple administrative due process. Mo was the only person in that school with the moxy to speak up for her, when all others including his bosses wanted her out. He was very stubborn about doing the right thing regardless of consequences. Trust me when I tell you that my adverse investigative finding against the school had not insignificant career repercussions for me. Mo’s stand helped give me the courage to do the right thing.
Much later, Mo became my boss when I was prosecuting folks down at GITMO as he was appointed the new Chief Prosecutor. Mo had our backs and kept the bulk of the political BS away from us. He also gave outside folks unvarnished doses of honesty and reality.they probably did not want. Again, being a stand-up guy came front and center.
It’s been some 14-15 years and I’m sure my politics and Mo’s are not the same. You can talk political trash all you want, but do not question his character around me.
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Post by kylearan on Sept 12, 2020 17:37:34 GMT -5
This current candidate for Congress used to be an ALJ as recent as the summer of 19. Based on this, I’d hate to have appeared before him! View AttachmentSounds to me like he handles things N Carolina style. And that is meant as a compliment to N Carolinians. They don’t put up with .... (whatever they perceive .... to be) NC State Class of ‘02!!  . Loved every minute of it lol! |
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Post by kylearan on Sept 12, 2020 18:13:47 GMT -5
Not sure why this thread is here, but my path crossed with Mo on numerous ocassions while JAGs in USAF. Just 2 examples: One time, I was appointed to investigate the treatment of a student at an Air Force school Mo was an instructor at. My investigation proved that the student had not been treated fairly when they attempted to prevent her from graduating without even adhering to simple administrative due process. Mo was the only person in that school with the moxy to speak up for her, when all others including his bosses wanted her out. He was very stubborn about doing the right thing regardless of consequences. Trust me when I tell you that my adverse investigative finding against the school had not insignificant career repercussions for me. Mo’s stand helped give me the courage to do the right thing. Much later, Mo became my boss when I was prosecuting folks down at GITMO as he was appointed the new Chief Prosecutor. Mo had our backs and kept the bulk of the political BS away from us. He also gave outside folks unvarnished doses of honesty and reality.they probably did not want. Again, being a stand-up guy came front and center. It’s been some 14-15 years and I’m sure my politics and Mo’s are not the same. You can talk political trash all you want, but do not question his character around me. I know where you’re coming from that often we appear to be one person behind a computer screen and then we meet in real life and we’re totally different. But still I can’t shake the idea that someone’s heart has to be pretty malign to even think something like that in the first place. It does bespeak the disease that has infected our sociopolitical culture in recent years though. People who have different opinions than us aren’t evil beings who need to be torturously murdered, they’re just people who see things differently. |
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Post by recoveringalj on Sept 12, 2020 21:00:55 GMT -5
I don’t know the ALJ personally, but I do know that he was well regarded at DOL.
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Post by uboat on Sept 12, 2020 23:35:00 GMT -5
I don't think there is any need to call this man's character into question. I would say that his own tweet, standing alone, already does a pretty good job of that.
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Post by Mister Atkins on Sept 13, 2020 7:50:54 GMT -5
I've known Mo for years. He was "fired" fro his job as chief prosecutor at Guantanamo because,excercising his discretion as chief prosecutor, he refused to use the specific evidence obtained by torture for ethical reasons. He disagreed not only with the way it was obtained, but also with it's veracity and reliability. I'm not sure why this thread is here. It shouldn't be. His character is solid, his integrity is intact, and you'll not meet a finer person. Put your your sorry partisanship away. kylearan has made no secret where his politics lie, but he shouldn't start threads on here to advance them. |
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Post by jimmyjiggles on Sept 13, 2020 9:28:12 GMT -5
Remember when this board was one of the only places on the internet that wasn't overrun with political commentary? Good times.
All of the above definitely reinforces my belief that Twitter and most social media is simply a force for bad. A place where character limitations and the need for lowest common denominator content (to get the most views/shares) preclude any involved, nuanced discussion that might actually advance humanity, and instead forever memorializes ill conceived "hot takes" or passing thoughts that one would never actually write down in another form (i.e. a letter). Or, as bad, share (and therefore endorse) the hot takes and idiotic musings of others.
ALJ Davis' use of Twitter is par for the course. Indeed, if he is only running for congress, he may be aiming too low.
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Post by Mister Atkins on Sept 13, 2020 10:19:36 GMT -5
Again with all of the hot takes... How many know that the tweet in question is a year old? Was not directed at his current opponent, but instead was in response to the NC GOP led legislature voting to override a veto after assuring their democratic colleagues there would be no vote on that day? While many of their democratic colleagues were at a 9/11 observance? Read about the vote that Drew Col. Davis's ire here www.gq.com/story/north-carolina-republicans-911Lock the thread, delete the thread, but don't attack a good man, who has displayed integrity and ethics, with an out of context portrayal. |
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Post by kylearan on Sept 13, 2020 13:33:05 GMT -5
I've known Mo for years. He was "fired" fro his job as chief prosecutor at Guantanamo because,excercising his discretion as chief prosecutor, he refused to use the specific evidence obtained by torture for ethical reasons. He disagreed not only with the way it was obtained, but also with it's veracity and reliability. I'm not sure why this thread is here. It shouldn't be. His character is solid, his integrity is intact, and you'll not meet a finer person. Put your your sorry partisanship away. kylearan has made no secret where his politics lie, but he shouldn't start threads on here to advance them. This isn’t about current politics, this is about a tweet from last year that an ALJ made that displays extreme temperament. I’ve indeed been involved in politics for years, and there have been lots of votes that didn’t go my way. I don’t exactly talk about snapping my opponents’ necks as a result. Because I am not psycho. I’m usually able to get along quite well with people of different political alignments. I posted this because I can just picture this Judge screaming “COUNSEL YOUR OBJECTION IS OVERRULED!!!” and then jumping from the bench and re-enacting the Incredible Hulk’s “puny god” sequence from the Avengers. |
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Post by kylearan on Sept 13, 2020 13:39:24 GMT -5
Just be nice to each other, that’s all. No neck snapping.
With that, we can lock the thread now I think. Pixie if you’d be so kind?
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Post by hopefalj on Sept 13, 2020 13:58:34 GMT -5
Just be nice to each other, that’s all. No neck snapping. With that, we can lock the thread now I think. Pixie if you’d be so kind? Do you need a safe space? I find it truly bizarre that a veteran would use such a graphic and violent metaphor. I would never expect such language, especially in this day and age of politics! I'm sure his demeanor on the bench is exactly like his political tweet. What is it you all have said these last few years? Don't worry about the judge's rhetoric. Just focus on his decisions and how he treated the parties before him. |
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Post by stevil on Sept 13, 2020 15:51:20 GMT -5
The tweet seemed to me to be a description by a veteran of someone being so worthless that they weren’t worth wasting a bullet on.
I sure hope nobody has recordings of some of the things that were said by commissions members concerning what should be done to our al Qaida friends after enjoying a few adult beverages! Cersei would’ve been proud!
Folks need to lighten up or go watch football - our country’s peaceful sport of choice.
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. Loved every minute of it lol!
