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Post by abthejd on Jun 8, 2022 18:18:57 GMT -5
Is it realistic to think another waive of emails? Unless they are doing them in waves, ie, doing a segment now, a segment in a few weeks, and so on, I’d guess no more emails would be expected. If forms are due next Monday, it’s hard to believe they would give some 2 extra days to complete them. I just hope there is some clarification on why those of us who didn’t get emails, didn’t get emails. I personally only listed 2 locations, as I didn’t want to move cities with a young family, so I’d like to know if that left me out in the cold. Good luck to everyone who made it to the next level! |
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Post by bsg75 on Jun 8, 2022 18:36:40 GMT -5
If the rumors that this is going to be a smaller hire are true it’s very possible that they continue to use this posting to fill positions next FY. We have no idea how the hiring process works now, I wouldn’t give up just yet.
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Post by beenlurking on Jun 8, 2022 18:49:43 GMT -5
Is it realistic to think another waive of emails? Unless they are doing them in waves, ie, doing a segment now, a segment in a few weeks, and so on, I’d guess no more emails would be expected. If forms are due next Monday, it’s hard to believe they would give some 2 extra days to complete them. I just hope there is some clarification on why those of us who didn’t get emails, didn’t get emails. I personally only listed 2 locations, as I didn’t want to move cities with a young family, so I’d like to know if that left me out in the cold. Good luck to everyone who made it to the next level! I think perhaps your logic is flawed. If someone else gets an email at a later date, and has the same number of days or time to complete the forms, how are they being given extra days? |
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Post by christina on Jun 8, 2022 18:51:30 GMT -5
Is it realistic to think another waive of emails? Did todays emails all come out this am or were they spread out during the day? |
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Post by roymcavoy on Jun 8, 2022 18:52:39 GMT -5
Based on people I know who had small GALs and Uber-strong credentials who were omitted, I think there are pretty good odds that the people who received emails did so based in part on the GALs and specific cities they did/not select.
I’d be willing to bet more emails will follow for FY 2023.
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Post by ssa on Jun 8, 2022 18:53:24 GMT -5
Unless they are doing them in waves, ie, doing a segment now, a segment in a few weeks, and so on, I’d guess no more emails would be expected. If forms are due next Monday, it’s hard to believe they would give some 2 extra days to complete them. I just hope there is some clarification on why those of us who didn’t get emails, didn’t get emails. I personally only listed 2 locations, as I didn’t want to move cities with a young family, so I’d like to know if that left me out in the cold. Good luck to everyone who made it to the next level! I think perhaps your logic is flawed. If someone else gets an email at a later date, and has the same number of days or time to complete the forms, how are they being given extra days? I think the point is it’s unlikely they’d notify people on 6/7 and give them until 6/13 to complete paperwork, then notify more people on 6/9 or 6/10 and also give them only until 6/13 to complete the paperwork. The first people would get the extra days. Of course, there’s no guarantee they wouldn’t just give a later group a later deadline, too, but the people who were emailed this morning had the same deadline as those emailed yesterday afternoon. Nobody knows what will happen at this point. Well, nobody willing to say so in a public forum, anyway. |
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Post by Gaidin on Jun 8, 2022 21:02:35 GMT -5
Is it realistic to think another waive of emails? Unless they are doing them in waves, ie, doing a segment now, a segment in a few weeks, and so on, I’d guess no more emails would be expected. If forms are due next Monday, it’s hard to believe they would give some 2 extra days to complete them. I just hope there is some clarification on why those of us who didn’t get emails, didn’t get emails. I personally only listed 2 locations, as I didn’t want to move cities with a young family, so I’d like to know if that left me out in the cold. Good luck to everyone who made it to the next level! They're never going to tell you why you didn't get the call ever. You either get to interview or you don't. You either get the job or you don't. You may get what we used to call a FOAD letter after this set of hires is complete. That doesn't mean they won't hire you in the future or anything. I believe many great candidates are not getting interviews because of the locations they're hiring for this time. But that doesn't mean you will ever know for sure. |
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Post by superalj on Jun 8, 2022 21:48:39 GMT -5
I’m curious to know the breakdown of the interviewees and their current positions. I don’t know how to do a poll. However, wouldn’t it be interesting to find out how many of those who were offered interviews were HQ or OGC attorneys, senior attorneys, appeals analysts, decision writers, group supervisors, other government attorneys outside SSA or reps in private practice?
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Post by wacokid on Jun 9, 2022 0:15:03 GMT -5
So, would everyone rather be an SSA ALJ of an Immigration ALJ? Pros and cons to both? One significant difference is doing adversarial vs non-adversarial hearings. Immigration court hearings are adversarial, which appealed to me when I was going through both hiring processes. |
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Post by ba on Jun 9, 2022 2:57:21 GMT -5
what is the email address from which the emails were generated? Asking for SPAM folder checking OHO.OCALJ.ALJ.Hires@ssa.gov It seems. |
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Post by ssa on Jun 9, 2022 8:24:58 GMT -5
I’m curious to know the breakdown of the interviewees and their current positions. I don’t know how to do a poll. However, wouldn’t it be interesting to find out how many of those who were offered interviews were HQ or OGC attorneys, senior attorneys, appeals analysts, decision writers, group supervisors, other government attorneys outside SSA or reps in private practice? |
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Post by neufenland on Jun 9, 2022 9:42:42 GMT -5
I guess no more notifications this morning?
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Post by abthejd on Jun 9, 2022 10:27:17 GMT -5
Unless they are doing them in waves, ie, doing a segment now, a segment in a few weeks, and so on, I’d guess no more emails would be expected. If forms are due next Monday, it’s hard to believe they would give some 2 extra days to complete them. I just hope there is some clarification on why those of us who didn’t get emails, didn’t get emails. I personally only listed 2 locations, as I didn’t want to move cities with a young family, so I’d like to know if that left me out in the cold. Good luck to everyone who made it to the next level! I think perhaps your logic is flawed. If someone else gets an email at a later date, and has the same number of days or time to complete the forms, how are they being given extra days? My point was, they sent emails to some on Tuesday (6/7) saying documents needed to be completed by 6/13, then sent more emails Wednesday (6/8) requiring documents to be completed by the same 6/13 deadline. No way they will send emails today (6/9) or tomorrow (6/10) with the same deadline. But I have no clue if this will be the only wave of emails, meaning if another batch comes with documents being due on 6/20 for example, but it would be odd to give some 2 extra days to complete forms, so that was the reason for my logic, which seems to be running true this AM. |
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Post by rmspringfield on Jun 9, 2022 11:24:39 GMT -5
I guess no more notifications this morning? All quiet. No notifications today. |
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Post by christina on Jun 9, 2022 11:46:07 GMT -5
I guess no more notifications this morning? All quiet. No notifications today. 😦 |
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Post by roymcavoy on Jun 9, 2022 12:53:09 GMT -5
Currently, 40/132 people got emails. That’s a 30.3% rate. My old trusty stats classes from State U tells me that a sample size of 132 and a population of (somewhere near) 1200** leaves us with a margin of error of 8% at a 95% confidence interval. That means between 267 and 460 email recipients, with a median of 364.
** I guessed at the 1200 number. No way to know what the real number of applicants was.
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Post by ssa on Jun 9, 2022 13:01:33 GMT -5
Currently, 40/132 people got emails. That’s a 30.3% rate. My old trusty stats classes from State U tells me that a sample size of 132 and a population of (somewhere near) 1200** leaves us with a margin of error of 8% at a 95% confidence interval. That means between 267 and 460 email recipients, with a median of 364. ** I guessed at the 1200 number. No way to know what the real number of applicants was. The number of people who got emails is much, much lower than these estimates. |
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Post by fowlfinder on Jun 9, 2022 13:22:52 GMT -5
Currently, 40/132 people got emails. That’s a 30.3% rate. My old trusty stats classes from State U tells me that a sample size of 132 and a population of (somewhere near) 1200** leaves us with a margin of error of 8% at a 95% confidence interval. That means between 267 and 460 email recipients, with a median of 364. ** I guessed at the 1200 number. No way to know what the real number of applicants was. The number of applicants is likely around 1500 based on our polling data, though 1200 is possible. It seems many more people who were working on their applications through the day/evening filed them in that last 90 minutes. My stats class also talked about selection bias, and in this case an over reporting of email receipts and under reporting of non-receipt. After all if you aren't (a) on this board; or (b) on this board but checking it semi frequently - you may not even know that emails have gone out so you can't report the lack of receipt. Statistically (from past hiring iterations) the farther someone gets down the row to being interviewed and hired the more likely they are to have heard of the board and joined. (Many people lurk until they have something positive to say and join to share it). In the past it was not unheard of to get 30-50% or higher of applicants disclosing positive results on this board. I think your 267 is the top end for emails. I would bet we are likely looking at 80-150. And if the goal is to hire 25, I would further refine that to somewhere in the 75-125 range. The best data will be the number of and days of interview slots, which we wont know for 2-6 weeks. So hang on for the ride. ---- Now all of this is premised on the assumption that these interview slots are just for the 25 expected FY 2022 hires. If they are interviews for both the FY2022 and anticipated FY 2023 offers, then I would agree with the 260-460 number. |
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Post by dwesq on Jun 9, 2022 14:33:36 GMT -5
Is it ok to discuss diversity? Is there any data on the impact of diversity factors?
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Post by golden on Jun 9, 2022 14:46:05 GMT -5
Interviews are currently being scheduled for the week of 7/5.
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