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Post by legallysufficient on Jan 9, 2023 9:09:47 GMT -5
Many of the candidates interviewed probably listed multiple cities. Seems like the agency could easily get many solid candidates from the group already interviewed. After that, another round of interviews makes total sense.
Seems silly to do an entire new posting when you have this much talent ready to go. Given the new congress, one would hope they do as much hiring as they can this fiscal year, as the budget for next fiscal year is a total unknown.
Meanwhile, the backlog builds and the tidal wave approaches OHO in the not too distant future.
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Post by dejure on Jan 9, 2023 10:25:03 GMT -5
I was among the large swath of applicants who were found qualified but not referred for an interview last summer.* What are the prospects for this cohort? I’ve been hearing that the agency plans to hire 100 ALJs or more this year. Assuming it picks up all of the BQL interviewees who did not get hired last summer, I wonder how many more it would need to meet its hiring goal and if it would request another BQL vs. put up a new posting.
* from the 7/7/22 NOR:
“This notice is a record of your application status for Federal employment for the position of Administrative Law Judge at the Social Security Administration (SSA), vacancy announcement number SH11434791. Based on our review of your application, you meet the minimum eligibility requirements for the position. As explained in the vacancy announcement, if you are among the higher-scoring applicants for the geographic locations under consideration, you will receive an invitation to participate in a structured interview. Please note: we will not provide further status updates until selections are made.”
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Post by Gaidin on Jan 9, 2023 12:34:05 GMT -5
I don't discount the possibility that they could redo the whole process. I don't think it's particularly likely but if enough favored sons and daughters didn't get in then maybe.
I think the most likely scenario is that they interview of the current group. Not because they thing something is wrong with the folks they interviewed already but because there is big pile of folks they want to see. They're used to interviewing people and not hiring them until months if not years later.
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Post by neufenland on Jan 9, 2023 12:48:33 GMT -5
I don't discount the possibility that they could redo the whole process. I don't think it's particularly likely but if enough favored sons and daughters didn't get in then maybe. I think the most likely scenario is that they interview of the current group. Not because they thing something is wrong with the folks they interviewed already but because there is big pile of folks they want to see. They're used to interviewing people and not hiring them until months if not years later. Would that mean if we did interview and were not picked, that we are still in it? |
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Post by Gaidin on Jan 9, 2023 12:57:07 GMT -5
I don't discount the possibility that they could redo the whole process. I don't think it's particularly likely but if enough favored sons and daughters didn't get in then maybe. I think the most likely scenario is that they interview of the current group. Not because they thing something is wrong with the folks they interviewed already but because there is big pile of folks they want to see. They're used to interviewing people and not hiring them until months if not years later. Would that mean if we did interview and were not picked, that we are still in it? That's the way it was in the before times. I don't see why they would do it differently. I don't have special information but based upon past practice yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2023 13:10:17 GMT -5
Many of the candidates interviewed probably listed multiple cities. Seems like the agency could easily get many solid candidates from the group already interviewed. After that, another round of interviews makes total sense. Seems silly to do an entire new posting when you have this much talent ready to go. Given the new congress, one would hope they do as much hiring as they can this fiscal year, as the budget for next fiscal year is a total unknown. Meanwhile, the backlog builds and the tidal wave approaches OHO in the not too distant future. If they want to hire for another city, they’ll need to score and interview all those applicants (that haven’t already been interviewed). I think that is the likely scenario. But they’ll need to interview anyone who met whatever threshold score they used to determine who to interview last time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2023 13:16:37 GMT -5
I was among the large swath of applicants who were found qualified but not referred for an interview last summer.* What are the prospects for this cohort? I’ve been hearing that the agency plans to hire 100 ALJs or more this year. Assuming it picks up all of the BQL interviewees who did not get hired last summer, I wonder how many more it would need to meet its hiring goal and if it would request another BQL vs. put up a new posting. * from the 7/7/22 NOR: “This notice is a record of your application status for Federal employment for the position of Administrative Law Judge at the Social Security Administration (SSA), vacancy announcement number SH11434791. Based on our review of your application, you meet the minimum eligibility requirements for the position. As explained in the vacancy announcement, if you are among the higher-scoring applicants for the geographic locations under consideration, you will receive an invitation to participate in a structured interview. Please note: we will not provide further status updates until selections are made.” Depends on the locations you put down, where they want to hire, if they decide to post again, etc. Lots of variables. A lot of people didn’t get interviewed last time- if one of your cities wasn’t hired into, you don’t know if you weren’t interviewed bc you didn’t score well enough, or if it was just because your cities were not pulled. |
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Post by operationalj on Jan 10, 2023 6:23:44 GMT -5
Many of the candidates interviewed probably listed multiple cities. Seems like the agency could easily get many solid candidates from the group already interviewed. After that, another round of interviews makes total sense. Seems silly to do an entire new posting when you have this much talent ready to go. Given the new congress, one would hope they do as much hiring as they can this fiscal year, as the budget for next fiscal year is a total unknown. Meanwhile, the backlog builds and the tidal wave approaches OHO in the not too distant future. Yep - the new 'house rules' specifically included the ability to limit federal spending. Concerning as the effects of limited SSA budget and hiring are already being felt nationwide from SSA to OHO. |
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Post by legallysufficient on Jan 10, 2023 8:22:46 GMT -5
operationalj--so how do you think this will play out?
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Post by Top Tier on Jan 10, 2023 8:26:53 GMT -5
Yep - the new 'house rules' specifically included the ability to limit federal spending. Concerning as the effects of limited SSA budget and hiring are already being felt nationwide from SSA to OHO. It is doubtful the new Congress will directly attack SSA's approved appropriations like it is the IRS's, but the impending debt ceiling battle is concerning. OHO and OCALJ would be very wise to expedite ALJ hiring given the new climate we find ourselves in and the uncertain future of subsequent funding. Best to implement a large onboarding of ALJs now while it is feasible, IMHO. |
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Post by legallysufficient on Jan 10, 2023 8:37:10 GMT -5
Top Tier---I could not agree with you more---you are absolutely right!
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Post by hillsarealive on Jan 10, 2023 9:49:59 GMT -5
Yep - the new 'house rules' specifically included the ability to limit federal spending. Concerning as the effects of limited SSA budget and hiring are already being felt nationwide from SSA to OHO. It is doubtful the new Congress will directly attack SSA's approved appropriations like it is the IRS's, but the impending debt ceiling battle is concerning. OHO and OCALJ would be very wise to expedite ALJ hiring given the new climate we find ourselves in and the uncertain future of subsequent funding. Best to implement a large onboarding of ALJs now while it is feasible, IMHO. I agree with all of this. But while the debt ceiling battle is concerning, I don't see things playing out like, say, 2011 or 2013, as the house is narrowly split. That's my thought anyway. |
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Post by badger on Jan 10, 2023 10:25:28 GMT -5
Many of the candidates interviewed probably listed multiple cities. Seems like the agency could easily get many solid candidates from the group already interviewed. After that, another round of interviews makes total sense. Seems silly to do an entire new posting when you have this much talent ready to go. Given the new congress, one would hope they do as much hiring as they can this fiscal year, as the budget for next fiscal year is a total unknown. Meanwhile, the backlog builds and the tidal wave approaches OHO in the not too distant future. If they want to hire for another city, they’ll need to score and interview all those applicants (that haven’t already been interviewed). I think that is the likely scenario. But they’ll need to interview anyone who met whatever threshold score they used to determine who to interview last time. That seems like the logical thing to do, but is that still true now that ALJs are excepted service? I'm not very knowledgeable on hiring rules, so I'm interested in how that works. |
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Post by operationalj on Jan 10, 2023 10:56:49 GMT -5
operationalj--so how do you think this will play out? Based on history, I think TPTB will do the right thing and hire as many people while they can. How they proceed, I'm not sure. IMHO, the most efficient process will involve taking advantage of the vetted group they have now and hire for the spring. Next, interview those from the summer group who were not invited to interview and hire for the summer. Then, create new post and hire for the fall. |
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Post by legallysufficient on Jan 11, 2023 9:24:04 GMT -5
Operationalj--I think they will too. Well, that would make the most sense at least. Assuming that those that were interviewed in the summer and not selected all picked a wide range of cities, there should be about 65/70 ready to be selected for the next round of hires. Plenty to interview on the remaining list after that.
Seems unlikely another hiring announcement will come out this fiscal year. But, who knows?
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jan 11, 2023 10:53:54 GMT -5
They're used to interviewing people and not hiring them until months if not years later. Present and accounted for. |
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Post by neufenland on Jan 11, 2023 11:32:44 GMT -5
Operationalj--I think they will too. Well, that would make the most sense at least. Assuming that those that were interviewed in the summer and not selected all picked a wide range of cities, there should be about 65/70 ready to be selected for the next round of hires. Plenty to interview on the remaining list after that. Seems unlikely another hiring announcement will come out this fiscal year. But, who knows? I think I'm getting this from context, but when you say "hiring announcement," you mean a USAJOBs posting, right? There may still be "hiring" this FY, but not a "hiring announcement" in the new USAJOBs posting sense? I mean, in your guess, of course. |
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Post by legallysufficient on Jan 11, 2023 11:44:29 GMT -5
Neufenland---correct. I think that a new posting on usajobs this fiscal year is unlikely. Just my opinion......
I hope the prognostications of a March training class hold true. If that is the case, perhaps selections would be made in late January or early/mid February. Hope for the best.
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Post by neufenland on Jan 11, 2023 12:42:48 GMT -5
Neufenland---correct. I think that a new posting on usajobs this fiscal year is unlikely. Just my opinion...... I hope the prognostications of a March training class hold true. If that is the case, perhaps selections would be made in late January or early/mid February. Hope for the best. Gotcha. I was interviewed last time, so I hope you're correct. |
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Post by legallysufficient on Jan 19, 2023 10:04:24 GMT -5
Hope everyone is doing great! Here is to hoping that there may be movement on hiring in the next month or so! If anyone has any thoughts, please share.
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