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Post by majnelson on Jun 7, 2009 17:47:24 GMT -5
While looking on USAJOBS saw an opening for an Immigration Judge and another for Atty-Examiners (General) (Admin. Judge) with Merit System Protection Board. Don't know if any here are interested in these areas of law, but if so might want to get your application together. I think one job closes tomorrow and the other this coming Tues. or Wed.
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Post by jagghagg on Jun 8, 2009 5:38:12 GMT -5
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Post by float on Jun 8, 2009 7:46:49 GMT -5
FWIW: It was worth my time to apply for several attorney-advisor jobs in 2007-2008 just to get the hang of the application process and the USAJOBS and Application Manager websites. And sure enough, I had trouble with USAJOBS during the ALJ application process - but had planned for it. I would have accepted the jobs if offered, so I was not just gumming up the application system with another body, but my goal was to learn how USAJOBS worked. And it helped. YMMV.
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Post by counselor95 on Jun 8, 2009 19:21:27 GMT -5
Just for fun, I checked the job ads which JaggHagg so graciously posted. FYI, those interested in the Immigration Judge had best look up the sole vacancy location, Lumpkin Ga, before applying. On second thought, if you don't already know where it is, you probably don't want to apply. It is nowhere near Atlanta, very south Georgia (which is practically another state), and makes any place on the ALJ cert look cosmopolitan!
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Post by karaj on Jun 9, 2009 6:51:02 GMT -5
Immigration Judge: FYI: Note NO RELOCATION expenses paid; lotsa travel; high stress.
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Post by northwest on Jun 9, 2009 8:43:07 GMT -5
Just for fun, I checked the job ads which JaggHagg so graciously posted. FYI, those interested in the Immigration Judge had best look up the sole vacancy location, Lumpkin Ga, before applying. On second thought, if you don't already know where it is, you probably don't want to apply. It is nowhere near Atlanta, very south Georgia (which is practically another state), and makes any place on the ALJ cert look cosmopolitan! I've applied for some of the immigration judge openings in the past. It looks like it would be a good and interesting job. However, believe it or not, the process is even slower than the ALJ application process. I chose not to apply for the Lumpkin location. It looks very depressing and isolated. It's a prison in the middle of nowhere. Check out But maybe if you're desperate to wear a black robe.... And the right person could do a lot of good, at least in giving a human face to justice. PS: I don't think this position would involve a lot of travel. I think you'd wish it did. You'll be holding your hearings in the detention center. But stress? Yes. You'll be seeing people every day who are scared, who have been separated from their families, and who have very little access to counsel. PPS: In describing the job to your friends, you could tell them that your job is to send the nice illegal immigrant couple in The Visitor back to their home countries because they don't meet the criteria for asylum. Watch them gasp.
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Post by northwest on May 14, 2010 5:51:22 GMT -5
The Immigration Judge position for Tacoma opened September 23, 2008. I just found out (May 14, 2010) I was not selected. Glad I hadn't put all my eggs in one basket!
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Post by barkley on May 14, 2010 7:38:29 GMT -5
And they say OPM and SSA work slow!!
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Post by imiram1372 on May 14, 2010 8:16:02 GMT -5
It does put things in perspective!
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Post by traderep on May 14, 2010 12:45:39 GMT -5
I am new to this process also. Let's suppose I like my current position but am interested in going to an ALJ position with the FDIC, NLRB, DoD, HUD, or an agency other than ODAR. Should I just hold out, remain on the cert. list until I am contacted, or go to ODAR, and wait for a position to open up with one of the other agencies?
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Post by usnjudge on May 14, 2010 13:13:02 GMT -5
The links posted by jagghagg did not work for me but that's ok. Although the Lumpkin job appears to be TBA, the announcement did say Atlanta. Should one assume an old bait and switch?
I have been told that the EOIR has altered their hiring routine somewhat - previously they waited until the FBI had completed a background check before offering positions. Now they are hiring and keeping their AJs in a provisional status for a year so the background can be done. I understand the EOIR/DoJ is under huge pressure due to the serious backlog in Immigration cases.
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Post by usnjudge on May 14, 2010 13:15:19 GMT -5
Just another thought - there was also a posting two months ago for IJ in Orlando FL. Woohoo. Little late now.
Oh and Lumpkin GA aint that bad...not too far from Lake Eufala, Auburn Tiger football and great deer/turkey hunting.
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Post by hurrywait on May 14, 2010 13:36:47 GMT -5
traderep
I have read that many ALJ positions in other agencies are only open to sitting ALJs. You might have a better chance of moving to another agency by taking a SSA position first. Also, because other agencies only hire a few positions at a time when they do hire off the registry, those certs would be very small and the locations would be very popular places, DC, Miami, New York, LA. So you would need to factor in whether your score was high enough to make a small cert. Your 80+ score would probably give you a decent chance.
Of course this might not be relevant if the registry expires in October and everyone has to reapply. If I were you, I would take the SSA position, start getting my time in on the Federal pension and other benefits like vacation accrual and wait for a position in another agency, if that's where I wanted to end up. I wouldn't take a chance with a new registry and all these other variables associated with this process.
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Post by traderep on May 14, 2010 14:28:54 GMT -5
hurrywait
sounds like a good strategy. thanks for helping to sort things out.
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