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Post by valkyrie on Apr 17, 2010 15:33:43 GMT -5
It sounds like some of the new offices are opening on time. Some of the new St. Pete ALJs have had other ALJs at their old offices take over their late May dockets at their old offices. The question now is how the transfers will be processed for the vacancies created by the new offices. Will they process the transfer list related to the new offices separately, or will they have to wait for the new large cert to come through?
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Post by valkyrie on Apr 21, 2010 13:26:57 GMT -5
Lots of transfer offers flying around for both new offices and the existing offices.
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Post by backtoeden on Apr 21, 2010 16:30:27 GMT -5
Could someone explain what "transfer offers" means. Does that mean a solicitation goes out asking is anyone is interested in transfering to x office, or is it an actual offer to someone who already put their name on the transfer list for specific offices?
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Post by pantherfan1 on Apr 21, 2010 17:14:26 GMT -5
The latter.
And Val, are you sure about the transfer offers? I saw that the new reassignment register was published on the union web site today, but I am very surprised they have started making the transfer offers this early.
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Post by aljsouth on Apr 21, 2010 17:36:52 GMT -5
The latter. And Val, are you sure about the transfer offers? I saw that the new reassignment register was published on the union web site today, but I am very surprised they have started making the transfer offers this early. Falls Church wants to have interviews in June. Some things are out of their control, like OPM getting the scores out. But once scores are out the agency can ask for a cert. In order to do this, it has to id the geographical sites to OPM. The agency has to work the transfer list so it will have a better idea of what sites will have openings, before it asks for a cert. BTW, the agency provides the updated transfer list to the union on a quarterly basis. The union then posts it on its web site.
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Post by valkyrie on Apr 22, 2010 15:04:11 GMT -5
The latter. And Val, are you sure about the transfer offers? I saw that the new reassignment register was published on the union web site today, but I am very surprised they have started making the transfer offers this early. I believe the register was provided to the union earlier than the rank and file received their access. After the screw-up with the last cert, the union would have been justifiably furious if the agency began processing the register without providing the union an updated copy for monitoring the process. Since the union is currently busy with elections, I'm sure things are moving a little slow.
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Post by pantherfan1 on Apr 22, 2010 15:21:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the insight. I didn't realize that the union monitored transfer offers so closely. Do you think they are notified by OCALJ of each offer/declination/acceptance?
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Post by valkyrie on Apr 22, 2010 18:23:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the insight. I didn't realize that the union monitored transfer offers so closely. Do you think they are notified by OCALJ of each offer/declination/acceptance? Transfers are a way that management could manipulate the ALJs if they wanted to and the contract allowed it. I am sure that the union is informed at some step of the process as to how everything pans out so that they can ensure the contract is followed.
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Post by Legal Beagle on May 9, 2010 21:15:04 GMT -5
A couple of the members of my 2009 ALJ Class received transfer offers when we were in Falls Church for Supplemental Training the last week of April.
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Post by tricia on May 10, 2010 10:21:18 GMT -5
Legal Beagle, you said: "A couple of the members of my 2009 ALJ Class received transfer offers when we were in Falls Church for Supplemental Training the last week of April. " I thought that new ALJs had to work at their first offices for three years before transferring. Were these people able to transfer because they had been employees of Social Security before becoming ALJs?
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Post by aljsouth on May 10, 2010 10:39:44 GMT -5
Legal Beagle, you said: "A couple of the members of my 2009 ALJ Class received transfer offers when we were in Falls Church for Supplemental Training the last week of April. " I thought that new ALJs had to work at their first offices for three years before transferring. Were these people able to transfer because they had been employees of Social Security before becoming ALJs? It used to be 2 years was the time before you could get on the transfer list. Now you can put your name on the transfer list as a new judge after 90 days. Being employees of SSA before does not alter these rules. If you accept a transfer you have to wait 2 years to put your name back on the list.
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Post by tricia on May 10, 2010 11:26:15 GMT -5
ALJ South, thanks very much for that information. Again I want to thank all the seasoned people on this board who are willing to share their knowledge.
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Post by runningman on May 10, 2010 13:21:10 GMT -5
And also: You can request a transfer after 90 days. However, it does not mean that you will get transferred immediately thereafter. Variables include the number of judges in the office to which one wants to transfer, as well as where one is (10th of 10 asking for a transfer to City, State) on the list of transfers. Not to mention when other transfers occur prior to new hiring.
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Post by Propmaster on May 10, 2010 15:14:09 GMT -5
Is the list public knowledge yet of who is transfering where? In other words, for those who accept transfers, when does the rank and file (and non-judges) find out? I am particularly interested in St. Louis and Creve Couer, Missouri, ALJs who might be accepting or being offered transfers to other cities.
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Post by southeastalj on May 10, 2010 18:40:28 GMT -5
Is the list public knowledge yet of who is transfering where? In other words, for those who accept transfers, when does the rank and file (and non-judges) find out? I am particularly interested in St. Louis and Creve Couer, Missouri, ALJs who might be accepting or being offered transfers to other cities. This is not "published" information but rather something that judges hear ad hoc as various offers are made. As I have said many times on the board, it is completely pointless to try and guess where there will be openings when the next class is hired. transfers will be offered up to and, in some cases, after hiring on the next cert begins. Cities that are listed on the cert as cities with openings may be filled with transfers. Its happened before and will undoubtedly happen again. Think of it as an almost endless game of musical chairs
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Post by decadealj on May 11, 2010 9:26:40 GMT -5
southeastalj- delighted to hear things are better in Cleveland. Maybe someone with better knowledge can clarify but several years ago, the RC in Chicago was trying to discipline many of the Cleveland ALJs for scheduling too few cases, all with an ME and VE. My recollection was it was the subject of much discussion on this or maybe a prior blog. Maybe prior to your time but the fact is that many, many ALJs have transferred from Cleveland for whatever purpose.
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Post by decadealj on May 11, 2010 9:27:46 GMT -5
Sorry posted on wrong thread.
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Post by ladyatlaw on May 12, 2010 18:34:07 GMT -5
Is the training in Falls Church for a particular agency OR for a certain group of us ALJ applicants?
I'm a newbie.
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Post by tigerfan on May 12, 2010 18:52:19 GMT -5
The training is Falls Church is for SSA.
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