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Post by rodkneekingslayer on Mar 11, 2014 18:00:45 GMT -5
You might most tactfully ask your Member of Congress to make a gentle inquiry of OPM [and ask to not use your name in the inquiry] to see when the scores will be forthcoming. Years ago this coincidentally or not got a score released.
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Post by lildavey on Mar 11, 2014 18:38:50 GMT -5
You might most tactfully ask your Member of Congress to make a gentle inquiry of OPM [and ask to not use your name in the inquiry] to see when the scores will be forthcoming. Years ago this coincidentally or not got a score released. I suggested this a few days back, but then I thought if a member from District X in State Y contacts OPM, all applicants in said district are promptly blackballed in some nefarious way. Yes, Paranoid MUCH. |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 11, 2014 19:23:44 GMT -5
I certainly would not start my potential career as an ALJ by ruffling feathers. The scores will be out when they are out. Period. No matter how frustrating or irritating it is to have no word as to when, the bottom line is we will know when they are ready to let us know. And this is only the beginning of the marathon. Just ask anyone on the old register about waiting..... This is nothing compared to what is to come for many.
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Post by privateatty on Mar 11, 2014 19:32:46 GMT -5
I certainly would not start my potential career as an ALJ by ruffling feathers. The scores will be out when they are out. Period. No matter how frustrating or irritating it is to have no word as to when, the bottom line is we will know when they are ready to let us know. And this is only the beginning of the marathon. Just ask anyone on the old register about waiting..... This is nothing compared to what is to come for many. A Congressional staffer is no match for SSA--and remember who is invoicing whom. You can bet that the Puzzle Palace is not happy and getting a little bit like this Board. ODAR's mission to hire ALJs and do the work is at issue here. IF ODAR can't spend the $ budgeted to do the hire by FY 14's end, then IMHO, that would rise to the level of the Director of OPM's concern. |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 11, 2014 19:48:45 GMT -5
I certainly would not start my potential career as an ALJ by ruffling feathers. The scores will be out when they are out. Period. No matter how frustrating or irritating it is to have no word as to when, the bottom line is we will know when they are ready to let us know. And this is only the beginning of the marathon. Just ask anyone on the old register about waiting..... This is nothing compared to what is to come for many. A Congressional staffer is no match for SSA--and remember who is invoicing whom. You can bet that the Puzzle Palace is not happy and getting a little bit like this Board. ODAR's mission to hire ALJs and do the work is at issue here. IF ODAR can't spend the $ budgeted to do the hire by FY 14's end, then IMHO, that would rise to the level of the Director of OPM's concern. I imagine those at OPM are feeling the pressure to get things moving and are doing what they can to make it happen. No doubt SSA is chomping at the bit to get the hiring done as planned. There is still time to meet the goal that hiring would be by the end of FY14 using the timelines discussed earlier. Not sure what the breaking point is though to be able to accomplish interviews etc before the end of Sept but I guess it also depends if the goal is the actual start date or training date by fiscal year's end. |
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 11, 2014 20:01:22 GMT -5
I suspect when that happened in the past, it was a 10 point vet waiting to get on an existing register, perhaps with a certificate expected in the near future . No one is going to put themselves out there to call their representative or senator to get the NORs out.
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Post by Orly on Mar 11, 2014 20:59:47 GMT -5
You might most tactfully ask your Member of Congress to make a gentle inquiry of OPM [and ask to not use your name in the inquiry] to see when the scores will be forthcoming. Years ago this coincidentally or not got a score released. My two cents on this idea (in 25 languages, no less!): |
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Post by sandiferhands (old) on Mar 11, 2014 22:30:10 GMT -5
If only I knew someone in the CIA . . .
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Post by gary on Mar 11, 2014 22:49:30 GMT -5
What makes you think you don't know someone in the CIA?
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Post by bartleby on Mar 12, 2014 7:56:40 GMT -5
I think the better question is, "What makes you think someone in the CIA doesn't know you?".
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Post by haobuhao on Mar 12, 2014 8:52:15 GMT -5
This is a great idea. Then the folks at OPM could spend their time responding to Congressionals rather than getting the NORS out. Some think the squeky wheel get the grease. I believe that the nail that stands up gets hammered down.
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Post by gunner on Mar 12, 2014 22:40:19 GMT -5
I'd gladly ruffle feathers for you folks, but since I live in the District I don't have a congressperson.
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Post by thankful1 on Mar 13, 2014 9:04:00 GMT -5
I get that we all are eager to get this process moving, and I can't think of a good reason why we haven't been given scores, and I realize that the extended delay has negatively impacted a lot of planning on the part of candidates, but do you really think this is a matter of congressional inquiry? How would that go? "I have a constituent who really wants to be an ALJ, and he thinks you have been dragging your feet on getting back to him and telling him how he did on his tests. What's that you say? No one is hiring ALJ's right now, so it really doesn't matter if he gets his score now? Did I mention he is really eager to find out how he did? Isn't that enough?" Commence Government shutdown if we don't get our scores in 3 ... 2 ...
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Post by steelrain on Mar 13, 2014 9:29:07 GMT -5
I get that we all are eager to get this process moving, and I can't think of a good reason why we haven't been given scores, and I realize that the extended delay has negatively impacted a lot of planning on the part of candidates, but do you really think this is a matter of congressional inquiry? How would that go? "I have a constituent who really wants to be an ALJ, and he thinks you have been dragging your feet on getting back to him and telling him how he did on his tests. What's that you say? No one is hiring ALJ's right now, so it really doesn't matter if he gets his score now? Did I mention he is really eager to find out how he did? Isn't that enough?" Commence Government shutdown if we don't get our scores in 3 ... 2 ... Any government agency or quasi-government agency that has interaction with the public receives these type of "Congressional inquiries." In a previous life I did a lot of work for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and you wouldn't believe how many Congressional inquiries they received on behalf of constituents that believed that they were wronged in some fashion by these quasi-governmental agencies (many of them complained of not being updated on their modification request etc.)..in any event at least with Fannie and Freddie those Congressional inquiries were treated very seriously. One of my tasks was drafting replies to the Congressional inquires and those went straight to the management level and bypassed in-house counsel. I think a Congressional inquiry would look more like this, "One of my constituent's applied for a federal position over a year ago, completed three rounds of testing, the last phase being approx. 5 months ago. It appears that the vast majority of testing was completed in the fall of 2013. My constituent claims that OPM has not updated him/her on the status of the hiring process and in fact when my constituent reached out by email recently to OPM he/she received a stock response that the testing and assessment process was not yet completed but refused to provide any guidance to when the process might come to an end. As you know pursuant to White House directive XX, all federal agencies were required to make the hiring process more open and streamline...etc. Please provide my Office with an update on this particular issue..." Or something like that... While a Congressional inquiry may or may not get NOR's sooner, OPM would have to justify the delay with more than the stock response that others have posted on this board. It might even force OPM to at least send a status email to everyone. Just my 2 cents... |
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Post by Missundaztood on Mar 13, 2014 11:57:57 GMT -5
While a Congressional inquiry may or may not get NOR's sooner, OPM would have to justify the delay with more than the stock response that others have posted on this board. It might even force OPM to at least send a status email to everyone. A "status email" would not give any details. It would be the same thing you get when you ask the OPM help desk (quoted in another thread). I applied for another ALJ position with a specific agency, was deemed qualified at all levels, and got a notice that my application was sent to the hiring authority. That was early fall. Then in about December I got an email that because of the government shutdown, the process would be delayed by about two weeks. Nothing since. Delayed two weeks from what or when? I'm guessing from whenever the hiring authority decides to move. If at all... |
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Post by chinook on Mar 13, 2014 12:30:03 GMT -5
Are you currently an ALJ?
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Post by chessparent on Mar 13, 2014 13:14:40 GMT -5
Steelrain, I have really missed you. That's it. I am sacrificing myself for the greater good and sending a letter today. ...or maybe not, I just realized I have curling practice after work.
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Post by chessparent on Mar 13, 2014 13:17:46 GMT -5
While a Congressional inquiry may or may not get NOR's sooner, OPM would have to justify the delay with more than the stock response that others have posted on this board. It might even force OPM to at least send a status email to everyone. A "status email" would not give any details. It would be the same thing you get when you ask the OPM help desk (quoted in another thread). I applied for another ALJ position with a specific agency, was deemed qualified at all levels, and got a notice that my application was sent to the hiring authority. That was early fall. Then in about December I got an email that because of the government shutdown, the process would be delayed by about two weeks. Nothing since. Delayed two weeks from what or when? I'm guessing from whenever the hiring authority decides to move. If at all... Mizaundastood: just a suggestion, but you might want to tone down the pink hair spikes for your next ALJ interview. Not saying I don't like them, but it could be the reason you are still waiting... |
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Post by steelrain on Mar 13, 2014 14:33:22 GMT -5
Steelrain, I have really missed you. That's it. I am sacrificing myself for the greater good and sending a letter today. ...or maybe not, I just realized I have curling practice after work. lol...I took a break because I felt like I was on the "Government should be responsive" soap box for too long. I find it interesting that we are all accomplished attorneys yet no one dares to "rock the boat" (myself included). If you consider contacting your congress-person rocking the boat. Just imagine, constituents asking their congress-person for help with an unresponsive governmental agency! What a bunch of rabble-rousers. OPM has us right where they want us - quiet and in the dark. |
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Post by anotherfed on Mar 14, 2014 9:09:04 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone who called his or her Congressmen. Obviously, it worked!
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