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Post by deltajudge on Mar 19, 2014 19:37:20 GMT -5
8-)My heart goes out to all of you. Welcome to the efficiency of the process that hired those that processed your applications. As I have said before, You all are a lot smarter than them, for what it is worth. Good luck.
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Post by alj on Mar 19, 2014 19:45:24 GMT -5
The agency has been asking for this cert for a while, so there is no surprise OPM got it to them quickly. Not a problem getting a cert out when everything is ready to go.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 5:47:56 GMT -5
I hope this information is accurate.
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Post by privateatty on Mar 21, 2014 5:56:46 GMT -5
I hope this information is accurate. Which information? |
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 21, 2014 6:05:16 GMT -5
I hope this information is accurate. Which information? maxlaw's post just upthread about SSA having received a cert from OPM, I assume. |
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Post by privateatty on Mar 21, 2014 6:31:09 GMT -5
maxlaw's post just upthread about SSA having received a cert from OPM, I assume. Oh, they have the Cert. The news is spreading like wildfire amongst us who stay interested. |
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Post by westernalj on Mar 21, 2014 6:57:21 GMT -5
Any numbers on the cert? Or estimate as to when those on the cert will be notified?
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Post by FlaTreeFarm on Mar 21, 2014 7:06:51 GMT -5
For those who don't make the cert will it just be crickets? Or will there be a notice to all on the register?
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Post by agilitymom on Mar 21, 2014 7:07:43 GMT -5
Crickets....
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Post by FlaTreeFarm on Mar 21, 2014 7:12:47 GMT -5
So for those not watching this board, blissful (not) ignorance! Another benefit of this forum.
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Post by privateatty on Mar 21, 2014 8:26:30 GMT -5
So for those not watching this board, blissful (not) ignorance! Another benefit of this forum. Most, indeed the vast majority of folks who populate this Board, take it and the information that is basic (like when the scores come out, when to apply, etc. etc.) for granted insofar as the salient knowledge runs up and down their office. IOW, they are either insiders or well plugged into ones that are. Now, they do appreciate all the other tidbits like polls, don't get me wrong, but funky's story of the person at the OPM interview who did not even know what he/she was interviewing for was telling. Alot of readers here may secretly rejoice in such ignorance--heck, it improves their chances with limited GALs and maybe stupid remarks at the SSA Interview--not knowing how and what to appeal, etc. etc.* Thanks again workdrone for this Board. A long time ago a poster complained that this process was random. Pixie replied that it was anything but. The longer I read this Board, the more I agree with her. *Should evidence of this attitude/belief come out in the Puzzle Palace interview, well... |
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Post by Ace Midnight on Mar 21, 2014 10:40:39 GMT -5
Oh, they have the Cert. The news is spreading like wildfire amongst us who stay interested. - Matthew 24:6 |
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Post by dpageks on Mar 21, 2014 14:07:57 GMT -5
So, does anyone have any word as to whether transfers have already been made? Since they get first dibs on the open positions, they would have to complete that process prior to a cert being made, correct?
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Post by sandiferhands (old) on Mar 21, 2014 14:13:28 GMT -5
dpageks, the word in other posts on the board has been that the transfer list has been worked for the past several weeks, and is continuing to be worked as we speak
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Post by dpageks on Mar 21, 2014 14:16:16 GMT -5
Okay, thanks!
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Post by hopefalj on Mar 21, 2014 16:05:09 GMT -5
Okay, the Cert I saw had the highest scorers at the top and descending in scoring order. So if the highest scorer had one city and that city was on the CERT he would go against the next two highest scorers that had that city on their GAL. One of those three, not necessarily the highest would be picked. The next high scorer, possibly the same one would be looked at for his second city along with the next two highest for that city. One would be picked. If not the highest scorer, they would look at his third picked city against two otehr highest one. If he wasn't picked, he COULD be three struck, depending on the desires of the Agency. I think the cities were in the order of number of people picking them on their GAL. If everyone listed Tampa and Tampa needed one Judge teh above wopuld apply. If the second most popular city was Chicago, and the highest scorer had that on his GAL, then the above would apply. They work down the list of top scorers and most picked cities. They have a large, very large spread sheet and they work down it and across, with the names of scorers going down the list and cities going across the top. In the one I saw, the highest scorer got three struck after three looks, and one that was down the list to 256 was eventually picked for a city after 11 or so looks or strikes.. It has been a few years, but this is what I remember. This would surprise me. Not that what you're saying isn't accurate because I don't know, but if I had to give my own guess, I would think they would hire in a manner that allowed them to reach as many of their highly recommended crew as possible. What I'm saying is if the agency loves sratty because her HOD and HOCALJ adore her, let's say, and starting the hiring in Buffalo allows ODAR to eventually reach sratty down the list through three strikes and hires while hiring in the most popular location first does not, then ODAR will start the process in Buffalo. Obviously I could be wrong. |
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Post by moopigsdad on Mar 21, 2014 16:17:25 GMT -5
Okay, the Cert I saw had the highest scorers at the top and descending in scoring order. So if the highest scorer had one city and that city was on the CERT he would go against the next two highest scorers that had that city on their GAL. One of those three, not necessarily the highest would be picked. The next high scorer, possibly the same one would be looked at for his second city along with the next two highest for that city. One would be picked. If not the highest scorer, they would look at his third picked city against two otehr highest one. If he wasn't picked, he COULD be three struck, depending on the desires of the Agency. I think the cities were in the order of number of people picking them on their GAL. If everyone listed Tampa and Tampa needed one Judge teh above wopuld apply. If the second most popular city was Chicago, and the highest scorer had that on his GAL, then the above would apply. They work down the list of top scorers and most picked cities. They have a large, very large spread sheet and they work down it and across, with the names of scorers going down the list and cities going across the top. In the one I saw, the highest scorer got three struck after three looks, and one that was down the list to 256 was eventually picked for a city after 11 or so looks or strikes.. It has been a few years, but this is what I remember. This would surprise me. Not that what you're saying isn't accurate because I don't know, but if I had to give my own guess, I would think they would hire in a manner that allowed them to reach as many of their highly recommended crew as possible. What I'm saying is if the agency loves sratty because her HOD and HOCALJ adore her, let's say, and starting the hiring in Buffalo allows ODAR to eventually reach sratty down the list through three strikes and hires while hiring in the most popular location first does not, then ODAR will start the process in Buffalo. Obviously I could be wrong. Hopefalj, I am sure sratty is happy to be used as the example in your description of how the process works. She'll take that job 100 out of 100 times. LOL! |
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Post by funkyodar on Mar 21, 2014 16:49:59 GMT -5
Question:
Lets say the cert has 300 slots. Further, lets say the interviews are curved such that 10% are "highly recommend," 10% are "not recommend" with the bulk classified as "recommend."
As I understand it, if you are classed NR, its over regardless of score or gal. You aren't getting the job. But, do they have to go thru the motions? IE, will NRs be in the top 3 for cities and just have no chance? Or can they essentially cut the NRs from consideration, sending them back to the cert, and shuffle the deck so as all top 3 competitions are among the HRs and Rs?
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Post by funkyodar on Mar 21, 2014 16:52:29 GMT -5
Not saying the interviews are curved. I imagine each stands alone. But some will certainly be cast as NR, whatever the actual %.
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Post by moopigsdad on Mar 21, 2014 17:08:11 GMT -5
Question: Lets say the cert has 300 slots. Further, lets say the interviews are curved such that 10% are "highly recommend," 10% are "not recommend" with the bulk classified as "recommend." As I understand it, if you are classed NR, its over regardless of score or gal. You aren't getting the job. But, do they have to go thru the motions? IE, will NRs be in the top 3 for cities and just have no chance? Or can they essentially cut the NRs from consideration, sending them back to the cert, and shuffle the deck so as all top 3 competitions are among the HRs and Rs? My as*umption is the "NR"s are the ones put up against others for a cert location and three struck. This way they can remove them from further consideration in the process. |
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