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Post by peterprinciple on Mar 21, 2014 9:03:22 GMT -5
The Division of Training and Human Resources (DTHR) has tentatively scheduled the first 2014 New ALJ training class to begin on September 15th, 2014 through October 10th, 2014. A second class has been tentatively scheduled beginning October 14th, 2014 through November 7th, 2014. This information was found on the DTHR internal Sharepoint website. Two weeks prior to the training that is scheduled, new hires would be on site at the hearing office for the initiation period. This is, once again, tentative and may change. DTHR makes revisions to scheduling, as needed, and has already done so for other training programs for this year.
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Post by orchid on Mar 21, 2014 13:33:10 GMT -5
That is great news. How far out from arrival at duty location are offers typically made?
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Post by agilitymom on Mar 21, 2014 13:36:10 GMT -5
Peter...Keep us posted...especially if the call for interviewer goes out.  |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 21, 2014 18:18:31 GMT -5
That is great news. How far out from arrival at duty location are offers typically made? In the past the report date has been 2 weeks from offer, work in the duty station for 2 weeks, then attend the 4 week training. aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/13621/thread |
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Post by orchid on Mar 21, 2014 18:47:20 GMT -5
That is great news. How far out from arrival at duty location are offers typically made? In the past the report date has been 2 weeks from offer, work in the duty station for 2 weeks, then attend the 4 week training. aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/13621/threadThanks Srattorney. With the way things are changing, who knows what is going to happen next! |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 21, 2014 18:59:54 GMT -5
Thanks Srattorney. With the way things are changing, who knows what is going to happen next! Amen! As Funky said....we are guinea pigs in all phases of this process! Just when we think we have it figured out.... Bam! New info. Sure has been an interesting year! No simple answers now. But them again I have no doubt SSA has a plan. |
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Post by hopefalj on Mar 22, 2014 0:21:44 GMT -5
That is great news. How far out from arrival at duty location are offers typically made? In the past the report date has been 2 weeks from offer, work in the duty station for 2 weeks, then attend the 4 week training. aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/13621/threadI believe it's typically been four-plus weeks from offer to report date. The last hire was 8/22 with a report date of 9/23. They're not quite so draconian as to have your wrap up your legal practice on a tidy two weeks. |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 22, 2014 6:01:35 GMT -5
I believe it's typically been four-plus weeks from offer to report date. The last hire was 8/22 with a report date of 9/23. They're not quite so draconian as to have your wrap up your legal practice on a tidy two weeks. Actually, the time varies and I used 2 weeks as the report time since that was the shortest known time. I am not sure what dictates some getting 2 weeks versus some getting 4, perhaps they take into consideration private practice versus already working in SSA? I don't know, but the 2 people I know personally from our office were given 2 weeks to report to the new duty station. An older thread indicates the "average" is 3 weeks: aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/50900/thread |
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Post by philliesfan on Mar 22, 2014 7:13:05 GMT -5
I was given two months, May 18 to July 17. Others in my class got even a week more.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 22, 2014 7:16:17 GMT -5
I was given two months, May 18 to July 17. Others in my class got even a week more. This is a huge difference in reporting time! I hope this is more the norm from here on out especially for those in private practice! Thanks Philliesfan! |
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Post by jonmom on Mar 22, 2014 7:46:04 GMT -5
I was called with the offer in mid April 2012 and was selected for class 2, so I reported in mid June for my two weeks at the hearing office, and training began the first week of July. However, the fellows in class 1 that started in May were also called with the offers in April. I was happy to be on the class of July as opposed to May not only because I had more time to get things done but also because school was already off and I could take the kids with me.
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 22, 2014 7:57:24 GMT -5
With two classes presumably coming out of this group but the offers all coming at the same time, one group will get a lot more notice than the other. They will have time, if they move forward shortly, to give at least four weeks notice even to the first group. My memory is a little fuzzy on this now, but it does seem that there was at least some consideration given to time frame to wrap up a private practice vs. just leaving another position.
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Post by crab on Mar 22, 2014 8:21:12 GMT -5
I believe it's typically been four-plus weeks from offer to report date. The last hire was 8/22 with a report date of 9/23. They're not quite so draconian as to have your wrap up your legal practice on a tidy two weeks. Actually, the time varies and I used 2 weeks as the report time since that was the shortest known time. I am not sure what dictates some getting 2 weeks versus some getting 4, perhaps they take into consideration private practice versus already working in SSA? I don't know, but the 2 people I know personally from our office were given 2 weeks to report to the new duty station. An older thread indicates the "average" is 3 weeks: aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/50900/threadAlthough I've never seen it written, urban legend has it that, for current federal employees, one's current agency can hold up a transfer for up to two pay periods under certain circumstances but that's something that gets worked out between the receiving and releasing agencies. (Probably a pro toward looping your boss in once you get an interview.) Also, it is my understanding that federal employees always begin service on the first day of a pay period so, if PP's training dates are accurate, looks like folks would have either less than two weeks or more than two weeks at the new office before reporting to training because those dates fall in the middle of a pay period if my reckoning is correct. That being said, two weeks' notice will be A-okay with me because, hey, it's an offer!  |
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Post by westernalj on Mar 22, 2014 9:36:27 GMT -5
Even when hired, at least in my office, you have to start at the beginning of a pay period.
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Post by privateatty on Mar 22, 2014 10:01:13 GMT -5
With two classes presumably coming out of this group but the offers all coming at the same time, one group will get a lot more notice than the other. They will have time, if they move forward shortly, to give at least four weeks notice even to the first group. My memory is a little fuzzy on this now, but it does seem that there was at least some consideration given to time frame to wrap up a private practice vs. just leaving another position. You want to talk stress? Wrapping up a private practice with a 25+ year tail in four-five weeks? Getting notices out (certified mail, RRR) and docketing responses AFTER you line up suitable successor counsel--clients need a choice. Petitioning the Court. Tons of manual work even with a secretary. Boxes galore, storage, scanning, copying, buying a tail policy, etc. etc. If you have never gone through it but might, I'd say to y'all think Road Runner...so you may want to think ahead. Like for starters, who would be successor counsel? |
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Post by funkyodar on Mar 22, 2014 10:09:27 GMT -5
I remember that private. Sheesh that was a pita.
5 years later I still get calls from former clients that track me down wanting advice on new matters. And the money I lost on cases I had at the time and had to pass along to sucessors...oh well.
All worth it in the end.
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Post by sealaw90 on Mar 22, 2014 11:52:29 GMT -5
With two classes presumably coming out of this group but the offers all coming at the same time, one group will get a lot more notice than the other. They will have time, if they move forward shortly, to give at least four weeks notice even to the first group. My memory is a little fuzzy on this now, but it does seem that there was at least some consideration given to time frame to wrap up a private practice vs. just leaving another position. You want to talk stress? Wrapping up a private practice with a 25+ year tail in four-five weeks? Getting notices out (certified mail, RRR) and docketing responses AFTER you line up suitable successor counsel--clients need a choice. Petitioning the Court. Tons of manual work even with a secretary. Boxes galore, storage, scanning, copying, buying a tail policy, etc. etc. If you have never gone through it but might, I'd say to y'all think Road Runner...so you may want to think ahead. Like for starters, who would be successor counsel? oh yes, I remember that well. I really took 6 months to wind down, wrap up, transfer and get all the paperwork tidied up. Even then, I had those clients calling me out of the blue requesting help, case files, etc. That took another year to quiet that down. I had to list my firm on my financial disclosure the first year in my current agency, since a few slow paying clients were still sending me money. I didn't close the books on my firm until a full year. My boss knew about it and everything was upfront and legal, but what a headache. Yes, it was stressful, and if you get a call for an interview with SSA, my advice is to stop taking any new cases just to create a lull in your work. Makes it easier to slow down the practice if you are not running at full speed. You can always go out an hustle extra if you start seeing offers going out on this board and don't get one.
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Post by jd on Mar 25, 2014 6:33:12 GMT -5
Where is the training held?
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Post by hopefalj on Mar 25, 2014 6:41:39 GMT -5
Where is the training held? Falls Church, VA. |
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Post by bartleby on Mar 25, 2014 7:59:31 GMT -5
In the past, SSA has allowed new hires to report to a later class for substantial reasons. In other words, if you were offered a position and the hire date was May 15, 2014, however, there was going to be another hire date of June 15, I have seen people accept the position in May and report with the June hiring. It is not impossible, just unusual.
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