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Post by chessparent on May 8, 2014 21:37:52 GMT -5
To my great surprise, I have had a circumstance arise that causes me to take myself out of consideration for the cert(s) that I am on. I had my forms ready to go when this happened today. My question is: am I better off to submit the forms and then to suspend my consideration after an interview, but before any decision (on the thinking that I will then have a "HR, Rec, or NR" decision in my file for future certs)? or should I suspend now before I submit the forms? I presume if I suspend after the interviews, I would be ready to be considered more quickly for future certs, but I also presume if I suspend now, I would be less likely to be treated as "struck" for the cert(s) that I am presently on. Recognizing that some of you have a conflict of interest in giving me sage advice, I'm still interested in your thoughts. Thanks in advance. Observer100: I tend to agree with funk on this one. If you just suspend now, you are essentially asking them to hold your spot. If you do so after the interview, I would be a little concerned about the message that may send.
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Post by observer100 on May 8, 2014 21:40:30 GMT -5
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Post by observer100 on May 8, 2014 21:43:42 GMT -5
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Post by funkyodar on May 8, 2014 21:45:19 GMT -5
Check with futuressaalj. Maybe a PM. He is a great guy that had to suspend while he went back to Afghanistan. He would undoubtedly tell you how he did it.
Good luck with the other opportunity.
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Post by gary on May 8, 2014 21:49:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the expressed concerns, but no need to feel badly for me. The circumstance that has arisen unexpectedly is an incredible opportunity that I did not see coming. However, not sure of its duration, so my question was designed to protect my interests in the event that the ALJ option becomes the best path in the years ahead.
I think Funky may be right that it's not worth pissing someone off, just to have the interview done now. Am I correct in thinking (from prior info on this board) that all I need to do to suspend, is to send an email to aljapplication@ssa.gov and to say, "Thank you for the opportunity. I request that I be suspended from further consideration on this Register due to circumstances that make me presently unavailable. I will notify you promptly if circumstances change and I become available for further consideration in the future." Glad to hear it's a great opportunity for you. I would think you should also let OPM know since they maintain the register and for future certs will be supplying SSA with the lists of eligibles from which to hire.
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Post by observer100 on May 8, 2014 21:51:13 GMT -5
Dream posted several weeks ago:
I am thrilled to have qualified for the Register. Unfortunately, since starting this process over a year ago, I have realized that I am not yet "available" to make a shift into public service.
After receiving my NOR I started researching how to temporarily suspend myself from consideration. I was concerned that if I did not, OPM and Agency time/money would be wasted on me and that I would eliminate an interview slot for another viable candidate. I sent a simple email to aljapplication@opm.gov asking that my name be temporarily suspended from the register due to “unavailability.”
Within 36 hours I received the following confirmation:
Based on your request, your name has been suspended from the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) register. Therefore, you will no longer be referred for consideration for ALJ positions until you ask that your name be restored to the register as described below.
If you wish to have your name restored to the register, you must submit your request in writing to the ALJ email box at aljapplication@opm.gov. Requests to end the suspension due to unavailability and have your name restored to the register will be accepted as long as the register on which you were placed has not been terminated, and you continue to satisfy the licensure requirement.
No questions were asked about the basis for my “unavailability."
If anyone else has successfully suspended then restored their Register status, I would welcome your insight into whether this process really works!
I thought others might benefit from knowing how to go an “inactive” status so as to avoid being “thrice-struck” for unavailability and losing a judicial opportunity forever.
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Post by moopigsdad on May 8, 2014 21:56:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the expressed concerns, but no need to feel badly for me. The circumstance that has arisen unexpectedly is an incredible opportunity that I did not see coming. However, not sure of its duration, so my question was designed to protect my interests in the event that the ALJ option becomes the best path in the years ahead.
I think Funky may be right that it's not worth pissing someone off, just to have the interview done now. Am I correct in thinking (from prior info on this board) that all I need to do to suspend, is to send an email to aljapplication@ssa.gov and to say, "Thank you for the opportunity. I request that I be suspended from further consideration on this Register due to circumstances that make me presently unavailable. I will notify you promptly if circumstances change and I become available for further consideration in the future." I think your notice to OPM would only suspend you from future certs, not the one already issued. However, do send this notice to OPM. Then, you should not send in your forms, but send in a letter to SSA by fax/email that you have informed OPM to temporarily suspend your name from the register and you regretfully have to ask SSA to suspend you from the present cert, for which you are up for possible positions, too.
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Post by gary on May 8, 2014 22:06:37 GMT -5
Recognizing that some of you have a conflict of interest in giving me sage advice, I'm still interested in your thoughts. Thanks in advance. I really want to say something extreme right now, but you sound like a good guy, so I wish you the best with what you've got going. OK I'm going to say it - I wish you'd take about 165 more with you. Devildog, I'm ashamed to say I agree with you 100%.
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Post by observer100 on May 8, 2014 22:09:23 GMT -5
Thank you Moo. That makes good sense. I appreciate it. Do you believe the proper recipient at SSA should be
Bob G ?
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Post by moopigsdad on May 8, 2014 22:12:13 GMT -5
Thank you Moo. That makes good sense. I appreciate it. Do you believe the proper recipient at SSA should be XXX.XXXXXXX@ssa.gov ? I would indeed let Bob know, but I would also send the email/fax to the same place/address/phone number you were going to return the forms to by Friday.
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Post by observer100 on May 8, 2014 22:32:56 GMT -5
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Post by luckylady2 on May 9, 2014 0:38:22 GMT -5
Wow - good luck with your new opportunity, Observer100!
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Post by JudgeRatty on May 9, 2014 0:44:11 GMT -5
Thank you Moo. That makes good sense. I appreciate it. Do you believe the proper recipient at SSA should be Xxxxxxxxxgov ? I would refrain from using his exact email in a public forum like this. Rather use a PM if needing to hand out the email. Just sayin...he has been gracious to us and this isn't totally cool.
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Post by ms961 on May 9, 2014 1:12:47 GMT -5
Its a mystery ... I checked my spam folder this weekend and there was nothing there. Checked again right after posting ... and it was there. Made it for all 9 cities. Ooops. Gotta get to work. Two obvious points. One, you owe the Board a thank you--we know who specifically. Two, keep rolling and pay forward. Your run may well have just started. Congratulations! Sorry folks for going MIA. Court, case work, calls to references and other assorted obligations kept me off the board since May 6. Ready to scan and send. I do owe a big thanks to the Board generally and the source of that info about minimum scores for the certs - without it I would have just assumed I was below the "cut score." I don't know who specifically. So, THANKS to him/her and to the Board as a whole.
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Post by moopigsdad on May 9, 2014 5:38:09 GMT -5
Thank you Moo. That makes good sense. I appreciate it. Do you believe the proper recipient at SSA should be Xxxxxxxxxgov ? I would refrain from using his exact email in a public forum like this. Rather use a PM if needing to hand out the email. Just sayin...he has been gracious to us and this isn't totally cool. Good catch sratty. I was so tired last night when I responded, I didn't see the email address observer100 listed there. You are absolutely correct that it should not have been fully listed in the public forum.
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Post by JudgeRatty on May 9, 2014 5:47:47 GMT -5
I would refrain from using his exact email in a public forum like this. Rather use a PM if needing to hand out the email. Just sayin...he has been gracious to us and this isn't totally cool. Good catch sratty. I was so tired last night when I responded, I didn't see the email address observer100 listed there. You are absolutely correct that it should not have been fully listed in the public forum. It can still be edited!!
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Post by moopigsdad on May 9, 2014 7:17:15 GMT -5
Good catch sratty. I was so tired last night when I responded, I didn't see the email address observer100 listed there. You are absolutely correct that it should not have been fully listed in the public forum. It can still be edited!! I can't edit observer100's post only my own.
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Post by 71stretch on May 9, 2014 7:18:47 GMT -5
I agree that the email address should be listed in spiderproof fashion, but just so you all know, it was listed in its regular form here years ago and can still be found that way.
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Post by 71stretch on May 9, 2014 7:25:21 GMT -5
To my great surprise, I have had a circumstance arise that causes me to take myself out of consideration for the cert(s) that I am on. I had my forms ready to go when this happened today. My question is: am I better off to submit the forms and then to suspend my consideration after an interview, but before any decision (on the thinking that I will then have a "HR, Rec, or NR" decision in my file for future certs)? or should I suspend now before I submit the forms? I presume if I suspend after the interviews, I would be ready to be considered more quickly for future certs, but I also presume if I suspend now, I would be less likely to be treated as "struck" for the cert(s) that I am presently on. Recognizing that some of you have a conflict of interest in giving me sage advice, I'm still interested in your thoughts. Thanks in advance. If you are asking to be suspended from the register, you are not going to be considered as "struck" by SSA/ODAR whether you make that request now or after the interview. You have not received "bona fide consideration" either way-- that doesn't happen until they are actually making selections. If it were me, I would go ahead and suspend now. You won't be "considered more quickly" just because you've already had your interview. There will be people who need interviewing each time there is a new cert, though that number goes down with each successive cert. Agree with moopigsdad about the process of notification to OPM and the courtesy notification to ODAR. Good luck to you!
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Post by observer100 on May 9, 2014 8:54:36 GMT -5
If only it were so easy to edit the rest of life retroactively. thanks to you all.
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