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Post by throughtheoutdoor on Apr 17, 2009 20:34:59 GMT -5
. . . that you are in the top 3 for at least one existing opening in at least one of your identified available locations?
Thanks
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Post by northwest on Apr 17, 2009 21:09:22 GMT -5
. . . that you are in the top 3 for at least one existing opening in at least one of your identified available locations? Thanks This is my general understanding from reading posts by people in the know: When they draw the cert, you theoretically could be one of the top 3 for your city. But by the time they're actually making selections, not necessarily. No-one knows in what order they fill the positions. Let's say you only have one city on your list. When it comes time for them to draw your city out of the hat, you might not be in the top 3 for that position. If your number is one of the lower ones, and you don't have a lot of geo availability, your chances of actually being one of the top 3 being looked at for any given position are diminished. Good luck! |
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Post by nonamouse on Apr 17, 2009 22:02:58 GMT -5
No it does not mean that you are in the top 3. They interview everyone who made the certificate, but some people will never actually be in consideration for an offer because of a variety of factors including: the order in which cities come up, how many veterans are in the overall mix and how many times the people with the higher scores must be considered (3). I had my interview last year, but I knew before I went that the only cities from my list that were on the first cert had been filled by transfers after the cert was requested that included those cities.
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Post by okeydokey on Apr 17, 2009 22:26:19 GMT -5
The last comment gets my goat.
If one only has one city or a few cities on the list and the slots are filled by transfers, it is by definition a waste of time and money to do the interview.
If a city is filled by transfer, they should not do the interview. Period.
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Post by throughtheoutdoor on Apr 17, 2009 22:28:42 GMT -5
No it does not mean that you are in the top 3. They interview everyone who made the certificate, but some people will never actually be in consideration for an offer because of a variety of factors including: the order in which cities come up, how many veterans are in the overall mix and how many times the people with the higher scores must be considered (3). I had my interview last year, but I knew before I went that the only cities from my list that were on the first cert had been filled by transfers after the cert was requested that included those cities. Thanks. Does it at least mean that there is an opening in one of your cities? |
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Post by throughtheoutdoor on Apr 17, 2009 22:29:55 GMT -5
The last comment gets my goat. If one only has one city or a few cities on the list and the slots are filled by transfers, it is by definition a waste of time and money to do the interview. If a city is filled by transfer, they should not do the interview. Period. Quite true. |
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Post by firsttimecaller on Apr 17, 2009 22:58:55 GMT -5
Actually, not true. Last year, with a good score and limited geographic choices, all my cities were filled by transfers on the first go-around. I got the "no go"e-mail but on the second (unexpected) round of hiring, I got picked up. You never know. Hang in there.
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Post by nonamouse on Apr 18, 2009 0:16:04 GMT -5
Actually, not true. Last year, with a good score and limited geographic choices, all my cities were filled by transfers on the first go-around. I got the "no go"e-mail but on the second (unexpected) round of hiring, I got picked up. You never know. Hang in there. The same thing happened to me, so those who say that the interview is a waste or should not happen are incorrect. The agency does not know how many they will get to because who can predict refusals, etc. Before someone goes on a rant, yes I know for a fact that some refused the job. There was an empty place in my class where someone said yes then no at the last minute. |
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Post by extang on Apr 18, 2009 9:44:16 GMT -5
I used to think that if you got on the cert, you must be one of the top three for some location. If they were hiring for only one or two positions, I still think that getting on the cert would mean that you were one of the top three for a location. However, because SSA is hiring by the dozen, and some [many?] candidates have chosen many or possibly all locations, it seems that OPM cannot be picking just the top three for each location [e.g., if three high scorers have picked all locations, this could result in just getting these three names]. I do not know what OPM does instead.
An interview need not be a waste even if your cities disappear for that cert. Once they have interviewed you, they have the record of that interview and do not need to interview you again if your name shows up in a later cert, which, given the current hiring plans, is quite likely.
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Post by northwest on Apr 18, 2009 10:54:09 GMT -5
An agency doesn't seem to be limited to just asking for a cert for, or interviewing, just the top 3. It's only limited to hiring one of the top 3 (unless it can give a good reason not to that OPM will accept). So recently OMHA interviewed several people for a single position (by telephone). In this way, it hedged its bets in case there weren't 3 viable candidates with the top 3 scores.
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