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Post by bintex on Jul 31, 2009 17:09:24 GMT -5
Got notice of new cert today - listin geographic preferences for Albuquerque, Fort Smith, Fort Worth, McAlestar, and San Antonio. Still no Little Rock, and no Dallas Downtown.
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Post by privateatty on Aug 1, 2009 6:21:19 GMT -5
Like pf, but for the Board and what i learned from jagghagg and others I would not be an ALJ. ALJDisc should consider a new status for her, like "Professor".
Believe it folks, this place is very, very special. My heartfelt thanks to the 'hagg and y'all again!
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Post by Legal Beagle on Aug 1, 2009 8:03:27 GMT -5
Amen, PF. It was really neat getting to meet in person some of the legends of the Board when they had to or chose to reveal themselves during July training. Most of the class and professors would only admit to being 'lurkers' though.
Thanks JH, PF, Pix, ALJD and all the others who have imparted and provoked all the advice and opinions.
LB
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Post by ed on Aug 3, 2009 6:52:37 GMT -5
What I would like to know, for purposes of gaging the time it will take to process this bunch, is how many will have to be interviewed and references checked before offers go out?
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Post by valkyrie on Aug 3, 2009 9:12:30 GMT -5
What I would like to know, for purposes of gaging the time it will take to process this bunch, is how many will have to be interviewed and references checked before offers go out? I would be very surprised if there are more than 25 candidates in this cert that were not on the last cert because of geographic limitations. |
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Post by lawdog98 on Aug 3, 2009 9:16:51 GMT -5
As I recall this same thing happened last year and it was a much shorter time between SSA's request for names and the (at that time) e-mails that went out with offers of employment.
The fiscal year for SSA ends September 30th, I would expect that the hiring would be done before that. I also know that the lucky few may not be given much notice before having to accept and report so that they are "on the books" for FY 2009.
Just know that things can happen very fast as the fiscal year draws to a close.
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Post by statman on Aug 3, 2009 9:18:29 GMT -5
They are interviewing the week of August 10.
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Post by traceb on Aug 3, 2009 10:21:00 GMT -5
I was not interviewed last time. Is this another trip I am going to have to pay for or does ODAR pick up any of the tab?
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Post by hope on Aug 3, 2009 10:33:07 GMT -5
I was not interviewed last time. Is this another trip I am going to have to pay for or does ODAR pick up any of the tab? ODAR picks up the tab for this one.  |
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Post by decadealj on Aug 3, 2009 14:42:00 GMT -5
But make sure you know the rules- I think they send the informattion with the interview stuff bit if not, check first.
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Post by roggenbier on Aug 3, 2009 17:38:52 GMT -5
I think the number interviewed is higher than 25. OPM certifies on rank on the register. To assume that only 25 of the top 125 scores have been appointed since the June 09 cert is not compelling. 25 is further dependent on geographic locations. We do not know. You may think 25 or less, I think more. However, I am willing to be proven wrong.
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Post by valkyrie on Aug 5, 2009 5:51:20 GMT -5
I think the number interviewed is higher than 25. OPM certifies on rank on the register. To assume that only 25 of the top 125 scores have been appointed since the June 09 cert is not compelling. 25 is further dependent on geographic locations. We do not know. You may think 25 or less, I think more. However, I am willing to be proven wrong. Only 1/3rd, or 150 candidates from the last cert were hired, out of a total of about 450. That of course would mean that that there are 300 candidates from the last cert that are still out there for the new cert. Except for the possibility of geographic variation, these are still the remaining top scores out there, and by definition they have all been interviewed already through the last cert. |
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Post by jagghagg on Aug 5, 2009 10:56:44 GMT -5
Rumor has it that OPM is not happy --- that's NOT HAPPY  , folks ---- about congressionals, complaints, and cases filed regarding 'irregularities' in the SSA hiring of ALJs. Hmmmmm, I'd say keep those cards and letters flowing! |
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Post by marciabrady1977 on Aug 5, 2009 11:12:38 GMT -5
Hey, kids, it's Marcia Brady checking in to say hello. Maybe not the right spot to say hello but it looks like everyone is on this thread. I'm still hanging around...on the July 29 cert...
Hope all is well with everyone! The surf is up and I'm listening to Fleetwood Mac...
Have a great Wednesday and enjoy this roller coaster ride. Stay cool. Laguna Beach is looking good this morning!
Peace
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Post by traceb on Aug 5, 2009 12:38:02 GMT -5
I'm just really happy to have made it onto a cert. and have a shot. I am certain there are irregularities in any hiring process, but right now I am trying to focus on what's ahead and what might be without getting my hopes up too high. I'd rather not have my mellow harshed having to think about all the things that might happen that I do not have any control over, like spending a lot of time, effort and money on a process just to be used as a pawn for some neferious purpose. Is it possible to move the topic of OPM complaints to a separate thread and just keep this one related to the most recent cert.  ? Just wondering. |
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Post by jagghagg on Aug 5, 2009 13:29:07 GMT -5
And I guess that depends on whether the discussion board is simply for each successive hire by the Social Security Administration or whether it is more broad scope than that. Yes, Traceb, I understand you are interested in getting selected for McAlester and you don't want to leave Oklahoma and so your sole interest is whether you get hired. If the boards are to be dedicated to the sole interest of getting hired without regard to process and purpose, then discussions about the Rule of Three, the Three Strike Rule, merit principles, preselection, selective certification (probably subjects which should find their way into "FAQs"), and so on and so on and so on (sayeth the King and I) should be verboten. If the boards are broader than that....if we can look beyond ourselves, then the idea that OPM might be susceptible to the pressure from a source other than SSA should be attractive to us.
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Post by traceb on Aug 5, 2009 13:42:00 GMT -5
Really it was just a suggestion and I certainly didn't mean to come off as being selfish or self centered etc. I apologize if I did, it was not my intention. Whether I get hired or not is beyond my control, probably beyond anyone's control is my guess. I was merely suggesting that everyone who made a cert this time, for whatever reason, is probably pretty excited right now and stressed out etc. just like everyone who has made a cert prior to this one. I'd kinda like to enjoy that excited feeling for a while if possible and I keep visiting this thread to see how everyone else is progressing. Maybe I will become jaded in the future, but right now I'm not.
Edit: Nor was I suggesting that the "board" is not an appropriate place to discuss SSA hiring practices. Merely suggesting that perhaps we could move that discussion out of this particular thread.
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Post by jagghagg on Aug 5, 2009 13:49:29 GMT -5
You didn't come off selfish or self-centered. You are focused on your goal. I understand the all-encompassing obsession with getting hired. I don't question the angst and that singular interest. Your interest is, however, to the exclusion of any other kind of discussion. (Some will say so is mine, only to the opposite. Difference is that I don't try to squelch other discussions.) One of my points is that there are some who would benefit from a lack of irregularities in the SSA process - not you, of course, because you are an insider, but others who are not.
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Post by traceb on Aug 5, 2009 13:54:31 GMT -5
I am not, nor have I ever been; an "insider". I have read the prior discussions on SSA hiring practices and theories about manipulation to reach insiders regardless of score, ability, credentials etc. It causes me great concern being an outsider. I'm trying not to focus on that right now and I am certainly not attempting to squelch discussion. |
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Post by jagghagg on Aug 5, 2009 13:58:39 GMT -5
I am not, nor have I ever been; an "insider". Interesting - my information regarding your status must be in error. |
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, folks ---- about congressionals, complaints, and cases filed regarding 'irregularities' in the SSA hiring of ALJs. Hmmmmm, I'd say keep those cards and letters flowing! 
? Just wondering.