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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 17, 2015 17:04:03 GMT -5
Gary and Funky, you made my day:)
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 17, 2015 17:04:41 GMT -5
I suspect opm's action with the register is analogous to the Ole funkster's beer fridge. When having a soiree, many the time I've gone to the old suds locker and pulled out the Stella, Guiness and Yuengling to place before my guests. On occasion, during the occasion, I'll take note that said refreshments are being guzzled with reckless abandon. So, it's back to the fridge for the second shelfers, the Heineken, Buds and Coors. It's not that my guests don't like the first on offer, just that I fear their thirst and my supply are about to have a devastating convergence. I merely pray I won't happen to open the bottom drawers and unleash the Keystone Light. I don't understand how the Keystone Light passed both the WD and the SI. Yeah, but it aced the LBMT.
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Post by Judicially Imployed on Aug 17, 2015 17:45:00 GMT -5
The words "keystone light" and "logic" (LBMT) ABSOLUTELY cannot work together. And I have my 3rd sophomore year to prove it!
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Post by beenlurking on Aug 17, 2015 18:01:40 GMT -5
The words "keystone light" and "logic" (LBMT) ABSOLUTELY cannot work together. And I have my 3rd sophomore year to prove it! JI, I respectfully disagree. They were, in fact, discovered together at an undisclosed location somewhere in New Mexico.
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 17, 2015 19:38:16 GMT -5
I suspect opm's action with the register is analogous to the Ole funkster's beer fridge. When having a soiree, many the time I've gone to the old suds locker and pulled out the Stella, Guiness and Yuengling to place before my guests. On occasion, during the occasion, I'll take note that said refreshments are being guzzled with reckless abandon. So, it's back to the fridge for the second shelfers, the Heineken, Buds and Coors. It's not that my guests don't like the first on offer, just that I fear their thirst and my supply are about to have a devastating convergence. I merely pray I won't happen to open the bottom drawers and unleash the Keystone Light. Funk I will be someone's PBR if it gets me into a beer coozie. As an aside my grandfather drank Keystone Light exclusively. He poured salt into it after every swig. I loved that old man but that didn't make me understand his beer choice. This post was most excellent!
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Post by wannabee on Aug 17, 2015 20:25:26 GMT -5
No, I won't be out of the country, but I'd rather not interrupt my annual vacation.
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Post by mamaru on Aug 18, 2015 0:04:32 GMT -5
I suspect opm's action with the register is analogous to the Ole funkster's beer fridge. When having a soiree, many the time I've gone to the old suds locker and pulled out the Stella, Guiness and Yuengling to place before my guests. On occasion, during the occasion, I'll take note that said refreshments are being guzzled with reckless abandon. So, it's back to the fridge for the second shelfers, the Heineken, Buds and Coors. It's not that my guests don't like the first on offer, just that I fear their thirst and my supply are about to have a devastating convergence. I merely pray I won't happen to open the bottom drawers and unleash the Keystone Light. I don't understand how the Keystone Light passed both the WD and the SI. Got a boost on the LBT score no doubt!
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Post by scouter2 on Aug 18, 2015 8:08:53 GMT -5
While I appreciate the creativity in the post regarding funky’s frig, it appears there is a sentiment brewing that those who are now allowed to proceed to testing in DC will somehow be “lesser” judges, than those previously chosen. Let’s not forget that we are all on the same team here. A couple items come to mind, first, regardless of how well you did on the bar exam, whether you had the highest or lowest passing score, you are still a lawyer. Also, had OPM placed the minimum threshold score so more folks could proceed beyond step two back in 2013, many more of us would have been hired already, been in the same training classes, and have the same title has those previously chosen- Judge, and no one would know the difference. So before anyone gets a superiority complex, perhaps those with this inclination should walk back down to the beach for a visit with Sylvester McMonkey McBean, and don’t forget to bring your wallet. Please be careful folks- we are on the same team here.
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Post by phoenixrakkasan on Aug 18, 2015 8:31:34 GMT -5
Let does who want to feel superior feel superior. Let them enjoy their false belief. You just keep on trucking.
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Post by funkyodar on Aug 18, 2015 8:39:06 GMT -5
While I appreciate the creativity in the post regarding funky’s frig, it appears there is a sentiment brewing that those who are now allowed to proceed to testing in DC will somehow be “lesser” judges, than those previously chosen. Let’s not forget that we are all on the same team here. A couple items come to mind, first, regardless of how well you did on the bar exam, whether you had the highest or lowest passing score, you are still a lawyer. Also, had OPM placed the minimum threshold score so more folks could proceed beyond step two back in 2013, many more of us would have been hired already, been in the same training classes, and have the same title has those previously chosen- Judge, and no one would know the difference. So before anyone gets a superiority complex, perhaps those with this inclination should walk back down to the beach for a visit with Sylvester McMonkey McBean, and don’t forget to bring your wallet. Please be careful folks- we are on the same team here. Just wanted to offer assurances that I meant no disrespect to those now being allowed to pass on to the DC testing. While, in my analogy, I likened them to second shelf beer choices, I meant that solely as an example of the order they were "brought out" not to their quality. Many folks would rather one of my examples of a second shelf selection over those offered as a first shelf selection. It's all a matter of taste. Just like ODAR will undoubtedly find many judges in this second testing group they prefer over those offered in the first group. And when those fine folks join the ranks they will be my colleagues and will undoubtedly be excellent choices. But, while I join in the sentiment of your post wholeheartedly, it is equally important to not let the shade cast by the OP that started this slide either. To casually cast aspersions that the reason one is now getting the call to DC is because ODAR "doesn't like" those already on the list is completely asinine. Add to the fact that those now getting the invite haven't even passed the last and greatest hurdle to get on the register and it's beyond stupid. While we may be "all on the same team" at some point when you and others get the call, at this juncture you are on a team of one and competeing with everyone else. For one to be assured they would be a better judge than one in this second testing group simply because they got a higher score on the online portion, may well demonstrate the kind of ego mania that the interview revealed and explain why they sit still awaiting an offer. But, equally, for someone to make the ignorant assumption that the fact that they now pass a lowered bar and can go further in the process is some indication that those that scored higher are not worthy of the call is quite possibly equal evidence of the wrong type of demeanor for this job. Competition often brings out the worst in folks. Especially high octane litigators. The special thing about this online community is how it has, on the whole, been a collaborative and supportive collective of such folks. Let's try and keep it that way.
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Post by christina on Aug 18, 2015 8:45:07 GMT -5
thanks Scouter. but's it all relative, i prefer Heineken over Guiness anyway!!!! But on a more serious note, scouter is spot on. i've seen my share of top shelfers and middle shelfers over the years and it's the foot in the door that counts at as far as being a judge, not the score. High scores have their benefits, no doubt about that, and kudos to all that have those. but even more kudos to everyone who has come through this process or in fact, even attempted it.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 18, 2015 8:59:42 GMT -5
While I appreciate the creativity in the post regarding funky’s frig, it appears there is a sentiment brewing that those who are now allowed to proceed to testing in DC will somehow be “lesser” judges, than those previously chosen. Let’s not forget that we are all on the same team here. A couple items come to mind, first, regardless of how well you did on the bar exam, whether you had the highest or lowest passing score, you are still a lawyer. Also, had OPM placed the minimum threshold score so more folks could proceed beyond step two back in 2013, many more of us would have been hired already, been in the same training classes, and have the same title has those previously chosen- Judge, and no one would know the difference. So before anyone gets a superiority complex, perhaps those with this inclination should walk back down to the beach for a visit with Sylvester McMonkey McBean, and don’t forget to bring your wallet. Please be careful folks- we are on the same team here. Just wanted to offer assurances that I meant no disrespect to those now being allowed to pass on to the DC testing. While, in my analogy, I likened them to second shelf beer choices, I meant that solely as an example of the order they were "brought out" not to their quality. Many folks would rather one of my examples of a second shelf selection over those offered as a first shelf selection. It's all a matter of taste. Just like ODAR will undoubtedly find many judges in this second testing group they prefer over those offered in the first group. And when those fine folks join the ranks they will be my colleagues and will undoubtedly be excellent choices. But, while I join in the sentiment of your post wholeheartedly, it is equally important to not let the shade cast by the OP that started this slide either. To casually cast aspersions that the reason one is now getting the call to DC is because ODAR "doesn't like" those already on the list is completely asinine. Add to the fact that those now getting the invite haven't even passed the last and greatest hurdle to get on the register and it's beyond stupid. While we may be "all on the same team" at some point when you and others get the call, at this juncture you are on a team of one and competeing with everyone else. For one to be assured they would be a better judge than one in this second testing group simply because they got a higher score on the online portion, may well demonstrate the kind of ego mania that the interview revealed and explain why they sit still awaiting an offer. But, equally, for someone to make the ignorant assumption that the fact that they now pass a lowered bar and can go further in the process is some indication that those that scored higher are not worthy of the call is quite possibly equal evidence of the wrong type of demeanor for this job. Competition often brings out the worst in folks. Especially high octane litigators. The special thing about this online community is how it has, on the whole, been a collaborative and supportive collective of such folks. Let's try and keep it that way. I have to agree with you somewhat Funky. No disrespect to anyone who eventually passes the testing process, but the NOR scores are the NOR scores. It doesn't make you a lesser ALJ, if you get that far. It just means you had more disappointment along the way and had to work harder to get there in the first place. Yes, I am supportive of all who can pass all parts of OPM testing, but let's not quibble over who is better than someone else based upon NOR scores. As we have seen, NOR scores alone do not guarantee you anything in the process other than to get on the Register in the first place, then it is all a "crapshoot" as to whether you get hired as an ALJ or not. So, let's be happy for everyone who can eventually make the Register and not judge who falls where in the process based upon their NOR score or when they came on the Register. Sometimes, life isn't always fair, but let's be civil to each other and be happy for everyone in the process.
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Post by gary on Aug 18, 2015 9:24:43 GMT -5
thanks Scouter. but's it all relative, i prefer Heineken over Guiness anyway!!!! But on a more serious note, scouter is spot on. i've seen my share of top shelfers and middle shelfers over the years and it's the foot in the door that counts at as far as being a judge, not the score. High scores have their benefits, no doubt about that, and kudos to all that have those. but even more kudos to everyone who has come through this process or in fact, even attempted it. Where's the love for Keystone Light?
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Post by marten77 on Aug 18, 2015 9:28:12 GMT -5
My old high school standby. Along with Leinenkugel's, which at the time, I could get by the case for less than Red, White & Blue, Old Mil, Natty Lite, Old Style, PBR, Schmidt's or Keystone. Now, Leiny's is considered a middle to top shelf beer. Times change. Tastes change. But the one thing they all have in common is that they can get the job done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 9:30:47 GMT -5
Actually I took funky's comment as a parody of the OPM selection process. Kind of a Jim Belushi, Dan Aykroyd, Lorraine Neumann and Gilda Radner Saturday Night Live skit from back in the day. Lighten up everyone. It was funny!
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Post by gary on Aug 18, 2015 9:32:39 GMT -5
In law school I had a friend who drank Blatz beer at breakfast because it was cheaper than milk. At least that was his story.
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 18, 2015 9:35:40 GMT -5
While I appreciate the creativity in the post regarding funky’s frig, it appears there is a sentiment brewing that those who are now allowed to proceed to testing in DC will somehow be “lesser” judges, than those previously chosen. Let’s not forget that we are all on the same team here. A couple items come to mind, first, regardless of how well you did on the bar exam, whether you had the highest or lowest passing score, you are still a lawyer. Also, had OPM placed the minimum threshold score so more folks could proceed beyond step two back in 2013, many more of us would have been hired already, been in the same training classes, and have the same title has those previously chosen- Judge, and no one would know the difference. So before anyone gets a superiority complex, perhaps those with this inclination should walk back down to the beach for a visit with Sylvester McMonkey McBean, and don’t forget to bring your wallet. Please be careful folks- we are on the same team here. I am going to suggest that you go back and familiarize yourself with our esteemed colleague funkyodar. There has been not one single person in this entire process (with the possible exception of @judgeratty) who has been as supportive of this community and the people in it. Funky continues to demonstrate that by coming back here and sharing information and encouragement even though he already has the robe and has transferred home to the Funkyfarm. I would agree (as I believe does Funky) that anyone who makes it through the process has demonstrated that they are as capable as the rest of us and some possibly more so. I would encourage all of you folks preparing to go on to DC to take a deep breath and realize the hardest parts of this process are in front of you and not behind you. The testing in DC was as difficult and challenging as the bar exam. Then you still have to survive the interview process once you get an NOR. There are lots of people with fantastic scores still waiting for an interview much less to get hired. This is a humbling process for all of us. Don't treat the folks coming here to help like the enemy.
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 18, 2015 9:37:04 GMT -5
Actually I took funky's comment as a parody of the OPM selection process. Kind of a Jim Belushi, Dan Aykroyd, Lorraine Neumann and Gilda Radner Saturday Night Live skit from back in the day. Lighten up everyone. It was funny! True story
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Post by beenlurking on Aug 18, 2015 9:42:45 GMT -5
While I appreciate the creativity in the post regarding funky’s frig, it appears there is a sentiment brewing that those who are now allowed to proceed to testing in DC will somehow be “lesser” judges, than those previously chosen. Let’s not forget that we are all on the same team here. A couple items come to mind, first, regardless of how well you did on the bar exam, whether you had the highest or lowest passing score, you are still a lawyer. Also, had OPM placed the minimum threshold score so more folks could proceed beyond step two back in 2013, many more of us would have been hired already, been in the same training classes, and have the same title has those previously chosen- Judge, and no one would know the difference. So before anyone gets a superiority complex, perhaps those with this inclination should walk back down to the beach for a visit with Sylvester McMonkey McBean, and don’t forget to bring your wallet. Please be careful folks- we are on the same team here. I am going to suggest that you go back and familiarize yourself with our esteemed colleague funkyodar. There has been not one single person in this entire process (with the possible exception of @judgeratty) who has been as supportive of this community and the people in it. Funky continues to demonstrate that by coming back here and sharing information and encouragement even though he already has the robe and has transferred home to the Funkyfarm. I would agree (as I believe does Funky) that anyone who make it through the process has demonstrated that they are as capable as the rest of us and some possibly more so. I would encourage all of you folks preparing to go on to DC to take a deep breath and realize the hardest parts of this process are in front of you and not behind you. The testing in DC was as difficult and challenging as the bar exam. Then you still have to survive the interview process once you get an NOR. There are lots of people with fantastic scores still waiting for an interview much less to get hired. This is a humbling process for all of us. Don't treat the folks coming here to help like the enemy. Gaidin, I don't think it can be said more succinctly. Bravo.
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Post by gary on Aug 18, 2015 9:43:14 GMT -5
Gaidin tells the truth about the Honorable Funky. Great knowledge, great booster, great Judge, and great guy.
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