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Post by gary on Aug 24, 2015 10:22:13 GMT -5
What street is that I wonder? A street a word is on? It can only be Webster's Street.
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Post by lizdarcy on Aug 24, 2015 11:13:45 GMT -5
propmaster -- I don't know about others, but I didn't receive the message in a negative way. Judge Allen was reassuring people who want to transfer. I didn't read anything more into it.
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 24, 2015 11:21:12 GMT -5
Word on the street is selections to be made this Friday with calls starting next week. Not trying to shoot the messenger just the message so here goes. The report date is 21 September. If calls started today, that would be a generous 4 weeks that my HR department could handle. If calls start on 31 August and I don't get a call that day, you are seriously testing the ability of my HR folks. How about you don't get the call until Friday, 4 September? How is someone supposed to report in 2 weeks? All kidding aside, sure I can show up, but my office and my agency would throw a fit!!! I'm just having a hard time believing that it is going to take this long for what is now a smaller number of hires. If it was the 80-90 people, then I could see how this would take a few weeks to work on it, but for selecting 30? I think the selections have been made already OR they are finalizing the slate as I type. Rant over. Wish we had more Intel...
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Post by beenlurking on Aug 24, 2015 11:25:50 GMT -5
Sea, how did the number all of a sudden go from 50 to 30? Dang, maybe it will be another round of 12 being hired.
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Post by saaao on Aug 24, 2015 12:04:02 GMT -5
Sea, how did the number all of a sudden go from 50 to 30? Dang, maybe it will be another round of 12 being hired. I think that the number will correlate to how long the hiring window is. At some point the notice to report becomes too small to expect people to accept. Honestly I would have thought that they had already identified their candidates by now and that calls would have started last week to maximize the hiring window. However it would not surprise me in the least if they really don't start until next week for whatever reason. It would seem par for the course at this point. Whatever the conventional wisdom says is the latest a thing should happen in this process, that thing will happen one week later.
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Post by ironmanlawyer on Aug 24, 2015 12:09:28 GMT -5
Word on the street is selections to be made this Friday with calls starting next week. The contractor is still contacting my references. If they are about to make selections, the contractor needs to speed things up.
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Post by beenlurking on Aug 24, 2015 12:10:09 GMT -5
Sounds like Murphy has been practicing law....Again!
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Post by gary on Aug 24, 2015 12:40:56 GMT -5
Word on the street is selections to be made this Friday with calls starting next week. Not trying to shoot the messenger just the message so here goes. The report date is 21 September. If calls started today, that would be a generous 4 weeks that my HR department could handle. If calls start on 31 August and I don't get a call that day, you are seriously testing the ability of my HR folks. How about you don't get the call until Friday, 4 September? How is someone supposed to report in 2 weeks? All kidding aside, sure I can show up, but my office and my agency would throw a fit!!! I'm just having a hard time believing that it is going to take this long for what is now a smaller number of hires. If it was the 80-90 people, then I could see how this would take a few weeks to work on it, but for selecting 30? I think the selections have been made already OR they are finalizing the slate as I type. Rant over. Wish we had more Intel... Also bear in mind that there has been lag reported between people getting the offer call and their getting the email with the formal offer. It would take a fair amount of intestinal fortitude to quit a position before receipt of the email offer.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 24, 2015 13:05:09 GMT -5
Word on the street is selections to be made this Friday with calls starting next week. I find this rather unlikely. I don't think SSA can decide all the possibilities of a hire larger than 12 to 16 in a day. If SSA is hiring more than 25 and close to 40 or more then it will require more than one day to work out all the possible logistics of the hire. I do not see SSA waiting until next Monday to start making offers as it really crunches the window for possible hiring (unless SSA is purposely only trying to hire a very small class of less than 20). It just seems SSA seems to be shooting itself in the foot on every hire, except the first few hires from this register, by making offers so late and causing less than ideal the number of supposed hires (250) SSA wished to make offers to this year.
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Post by gary on Aug 24, 2015 14:11:50 GMT -5
Those who might possibly receive an offer for Mt. Pleasant may find the following of interest.
A source with personal knowledge says that Mt. Pleasant is a fabulous office with great professional, highly competent scts, writers, and judges. The cases are manageable. The office is geared toward training -- ALJs, writers, and scts. So it is a very supportive environment, especially for NODARs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Mt. Pleasant. It just wasn't the source's home.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Aug 24, 2015 14:24:27 GMT -5
There does seem to have been a lot of traffic into and out of Mount Pleasant - part of its problem is certainly that it is kind of out of the way. But, I've heard other subjectively positive reports about the office as well - it might just be someone's cup of tea.
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Post by tripper on Aug 24, 2015 14:27:37 GMT -5
Those who might possibly receive an offer for Mt. Pleasant may find the following of interest. A source with personal knowledge says that Mt. Pleasant is a fabulous office with great professional, highly competent scts, writers, and judges. The cases are manageable. The office is geared toward training -- ALJs, writers, and scts. So it is a very supportive environment, especially for NODARs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Mt. Pleasant. It just wasn't the source's home. From everything I have heard, I would concur with Gary's report. I think the ding against Mt. Pleasant is the location rather than anything related to the actual hearing office. Mt. Pleasant is just not near anything much of interest. I've know people who were there initially and transferred out and they say nice things about the office.
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 24, 2015 14:49:08 GMT -5
Sea, how did the number all of a sudden go from 50 to 30? Dang, maybe it will be another round of 12 being hired. I was ranting, like when Blutto said the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Seriously though moopig's post also indicates the very real possibility of a smaller hire if ODAR waits until next Monday to start calls...Ironman says references are still being checked! I still think calls will start later this week. I've never been right yet!
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 24, 2015 15:08:42 GMT -5
I have heard a number of great things about MtP. I think it is just small town living and that isn't everybody's cup of tea. I point it out as a place that the list is getting short for because lots of people did not include it in their GAL and its an office that gets lots of hires so it has lots of people trying to transfer out. I wish it was on my GAL.
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 24, 2015 15:09:53 GMT -5
Word on the street is selections to be made this Friday with calls starting next week. The contractor is still contacting my references. If they are about to make selections, the contractor needs to speed things up. Is anybody else still getting their references checked or rechecked? This is weird and it makes me nervous.
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Post by zepplin on Aug 24, 2015 15:43:41 GMT -5
The contractor is still contacting my references. If they are about to make selections, the contractor needs to speed things up. Is anybody else still getting their references checked or rechecked? This is weird and it makes me nervous. Check to the recheck query.
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Post by MW2 on Aug 24, 2015 15:56:37 GMT -5
The contractor is still contacting my references. If they are about to make selections, the contractor needs to speed things up. Is anybody else still getting their references checked or rechecked? This is weird and it makes me nervous. I have been on multiple certs and resubmitted my personal history form in April with a couple of new references. The new references and my supervisor were contacted last week, but so far as I know none of the remaining original references from 2014 have been contacted.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 16:01:53 GMT -5
A reason an office such as Mt Pleasant receives a less than desirable tag, may not be due to the ODAR office itself but due to the locale. For example, in my case, MT Pleasant, or conversely even other "desired" cities such as Seattle or Columbus were taken off my GAL because of their almost impossibly difficult in/out air travel capacity. Mt. Pleasant would require driving several hours to an airport. Columbus, surprisingly a great city but because the city simply did not devote taxes to airport expansion has extremely few viable flights in/out, negating its consideration. And very desirable Seattle would quite literally require overnight travel just to get back to Mid-America where family was located.
The isolation of a city locale, the lack of feasible air or train travel, can wreak mind-havoc with a newly hired ALJ separated from family, if because of her locale, she simply cannot get home for weeks or even months at a time and may quite well be there for years.
There are ODARs that are quite above par in regarding to atmosphere, congeniality, work attitudes, training, etc., that are a great pleasure, if not a benefit, from which to start as an ALJ. And these great offices may be located in completely isolated and less than desirable cities.
Just the same there are ODARs located in highly desirable cities that are known to be absolute snakepits due to mis/micromanagement, lack of training, non-cooperation between staff, etc.
Thus the difficulty any about to be hired applicant faces: How to be located in that great city with the great office? You figure that one out let us all know, otherwise, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. Take the leap when Bob calls and see what happens.
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 24, 2015 16:25:29 GMT -5
I have received intel that the hiring committee will conclude on Friday. My source did not state whether that is the only day they will meet or not. They also stated that offers would not begin on Friday.
If this is true then I am calling Tuesday, September 1 as the day offers start.
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Post by gary on Aug 24, 2015 16:36:51 GMT -5
Me too.
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