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Post by MW2 on Aug 24, 2015 17:25:11 GMT -5
I have received intel that the hiring committee will conclude on Friday. My source did not state whether that is the only day they will meet or not. They also stated that offers would not begin on Friday. If this is true then I am calling Tuesday, September 1 as the day offers start. If this is the case, do you believe they will still be hiring 50 new ALJs as has been reported? Assuming they would not make offers after Friday September 4th given the lack of a full two weeks notice (cue the ready and willing to the last minute jokes) it seems awfully oppomistic they could get that many hires done within a week. Let alone four days.
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Post by saaao on Aug 24, 2015 18:06:12 GMT -5
I have received intel that the hiring committee will conclude on Friday. My source did not state whether that is the only day they will meet or not. They also stated that offers would not begin on Friday. If this is true then I am calling Tuesday, September 1 as the day offers start. If this is the case, do you believe they will still be hiring 50 new ALJs as has been reported? Assuming they would not make offers after Friday September 4th given the lack of a full two weeks notice (cue the ready and willing to the last minute jokes) it seems awfully oppomistic they could get that many hires done within a week. Let alone four days. Bob and company have been known to work Saturdays, so maybe they will try and get a jump on things that way. Also many people they are going to call will have smaller GALs, so one person taking 24 hours to think probably won't stop the whole process. They could possibly get to fifty, though many things will have to go right for that to happen (which will be a first). I do think that they will be done by Thursday though. Labor Day is coming up and on Friday government offices will be ghost towns, and many people they plan to call will be on flights to vacation destinations. I really don't see them making any offers after Labor Day. My WAG is that the window is Saturday (maybe) to Thursday.
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Post by ironmanlawyer on Aug 24, 2015 19:41:25 GMT -5
The contractor is still contacting my references. If they are about to make selections, the contractor needs to speed things up. Is anybody else still getting their references checked or rechecked? This is weird and it makes me nervous. I still have 2 references from the 9 that have not received a phone call. My supervisor was contacted last week. I do not know if past supervisors have been contacted.
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Post by lizdarcy on Aug 24, 2015 19:50:28 GMT -5
Or maybe all or some of the new hires will start later than September 21st. Just saying. Good luck to everyone with a hat in the ring.
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Post by owl on Aug 24, 2015 20:04:20 GMT -5
FWIW most SSA systems are scheduled to be down this weekend. Typically that does *not* include the phones and Outlook but who knows what systems Bobellinda might need to work their magic.
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Post by funkyodar on Aug 24, 2015 20:30:51 GMT -5
On the issue of Mt Pleasant, I agree with some others that have reported it's merely a location issue. I've never heard a bad word about the office. In fact, I know the most recent hocalj there and I can't believe she would have anything less than a stellar office.
Further, while I have extolled the virtues of Tupelo, maybe I haven't said enough about my first posting. Middlesboro is another office with high judge attrition. But, like Mt Pleasant, it's only because people want to go back home. The area is naturally beautiful, the town is right out of Mayberry and cost of living is low. And, you will not find a better group of folks or a group that does a better job than they do there. The staff is incredibly nice and amazing at their jobs. Management is the best I have ever experienced. And the judges are top notch at both doing this job and teaching it to newbies. Anyone would be very fortunate to start out there.
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Post by donk on Aug 24, 2015 20:34:10 GMT -5
If Gaidan's Intel is right and there's no reason to doubt it, they hopefully are giving people more than two weeks to move their lives. The military is even kinder than that. There needs to be a level of professionalism and common courtesy here right?
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Post by ba on Aug 24, 2015 21:03:08 GMT -5
If Gaidan's Intel is right and there's no reason to doubt it, they hopefully are giving people more than two weeks to move their lives. The military is even kinder than that. There needs to be a level of professionalism and common courtesy here right? In military parlance, the name of the game is "Hurry up and wait."
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 25, 2015 7:16:52 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker.
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Post by anotherfed on Aug 25, 2015 8:18:35 GMT -5
On the issue of Mt Pleasant, I agree with some others that have reported it's merely a location issue. I've never heard a bad word about the office. In fact, I know the most recent hocalj there and I can't believe she would have anything less than a stellar office. Further, while I have extolled the virtues of Tupelo, maybe I haven't said enough about my first posting. Middlesboro is another office with high judge attrition. But, like Mt Pleasant, it's only because people want to go back home. The area is naturally beautiful, the town is right out of Mayberry and cost of living is low. And, you will not find a better group of folks or a group that does a better job than they do there. The staff is incredibly nice and amazing at their jobs. Management is the best I have ever experienced. And the judges are top notch at both doing this job and teaching it to newbies. Anyone would be very fortunate to start out there. Those out-of-the-way locales are also zombie-free zones. Something to consider...
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Post by hopefalj on Aug 25, 2015 8:22:46 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker. They certainly share some responsibility, but let's not forget the month-long saga of obtaining certs from OPM this spring that was partially to blame for the small (but awesome!) May class. Not sure if OPM delayed the most recent certs as well. Besides, it's the government! There's always somebody else to blame.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 25, 2015 8:38:59 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker. They certainly share some responsibility, but let's not forget the month-long saga of obtaining certs from OPM this spring that was partially to blame for the small (but awesome!) May class. Not sure if OPM delayed the most recent certs as well. Besides, it's the government! There's always somebody else to blame. Yes you are right about always having someone else to blame. However, I believe all GAL preferences and interviews of new candidates on the certs were completed prior to mid month and yet, supposedly offers will not be made until September 1? Yes, I guess the new blame organization will be the contractors doing the reference checks. Typical Federal Government speed which is slow and slower.
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Post by ba on Aug 25, 2015 8:42:11 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker. While I don't generally disagree with the sentiment, the OPM data breach didn't exactly help speed things along.
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Post by prescient on Aug 25, 2015 8:44:04 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker. anecdotal evidence coupled with spidey sense is making me wonder if there's more going on than meets the eye
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Post by ibnlurkin on Aug 25, 2015 9:02:13 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker. anecdotal evidence coupled with spidey sense is making me wonder if there's more going on than meets the eye anecdotal evidence beyond what we've heard here on the board ?
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Post by sealaw90 on Aug 25, 2015 9:40:31 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker. Except they like to throw OPM under the bus quite frequently.
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 25, 2015 9:53:17 GMT -5
I have received intel that the hiring committee will conclude on Friday. My source did not state whether that is the only day they will meet or not. They also stated that offers would not begin on Friday. If this is true then I am calling Tuesday, September 1 as the day offers start. If this is the case, do you believe they will still be hiring 50 new ALJs as has been reported? Assuming they would not make offers after Friday September 4th given the lack of a full two weeks notice (cue the ready and willing to the last minute jokes) it seems awfully oppomistic they could get that many hires done within a week. Let alone four days. My understanding is that they average about 10 calls a day. I think they could squeeze in 50 - 60 calls in the time they have. How many people accept is impossible to say. Also every time someone takes longer than absolutely necessary they cut into the agency's ability to make as many offers as it would like.
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Post by moopigsdad on Aug 25, 2015 10:35:49 GMT -5
If this is the case, do you believe they will still be hiring 50 new ALJs as has been reported? Assuming they would not make offers after Friday September 4th given the lack of a full two weeks notice (cue the ready and willing to the last minute jokes) it seems awfully oppomistic they could get that many hires done within a week. Let alone four days. My understanding is that they average about 10 calls a day. I think they could squeeze in 50 - 60 calls in the time they have. How many people accept is impossible to say. Also every time someone takes longer than absolutely necessary they cut into the agency's ability to make as many offers as it would like. Not to burst your bubble "G" but those numbers of hires are likely not happening. It will be less than the 50/60 suggested by you, much to my own chagrin. However, I am a realist and 40 or less is the most likely number. Sorry!
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Post by saaao on Aug 25, 2015 10:50:01 GMT -5
If what is being said about the September new class is true (no hires until September 1st), then there are likely less than 40 to be hired. SSA will have failed miserably in trying to hit its target number of 250 hires this fiscal year and will have nobody to blame but itself for not moving quicker. Based on how everything else in this process has played out, I would fully believe no calls until Sep. 1st. Regardless of blame, this will be a significant hardship for those who accept offers. With approximately two weeks notice to be thrown into seven weeks of training, even agency employed attorneys are going to have difficulties. I can't imagine how a solo practitioner would be able to wind down a practice in that period of time.
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Post by iowanative15 on Aug 25, 2015 10:56:47 GMT -5
If this is the case, do you believe they will still be hiring 50 new ALJs as has been reported? Assuming they would not make offers after Friday September 4th given the lack of a full two weeks notice (cue the ready and willing to the last minute jokes) it seems awfully oppomistic they could get that many hires done within a week. Let alone four days. My understanding is that they average about 10 calls a day. I think they could squeeze in 50 - 60 calls in the time they have. How many people accept is impossible to say. Also every time someone takes longer than absolutely necessary they cut into the agency's ability to make as many offers as it would like.
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