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Post by zebra51 on Nov 23, 2015 13:00:14 GMT -5
Good luck Future and Zebra. Zebra, do you attach any significance to the changes you mentioned? Mainly just observation. I do wonder at the apps being handled by what appears to be an OPM employee and not and agency employee. Thought someone on here might have insight? Might be a few Fed folks that could be DQed for not following announcement and sending SF-50/Eval. |
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Post by robespierre on Nov 23, 2015 13:09:44 GMT -5
Is this a bigger hire than the previous rounds? If so, my wild guess is that they enlisted OPM's help for the tedious job of going thru all the apps to weed out the incomplete ones and the people who don't meet the baseline licensure/citizenship requirements.
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Post by jafo on Nov 23, 2015 14:02:24 GMT -5
Is this a bigger hire than the previous rounds? If so, my wild guess is that they enlisted OPM's help for the tedious job of going thru all the apps to weed out the incomplete ones and the people who don't meet the baseline licensure/citizenship requirements. My personal feeling is that it will be smaller. It appears that they're making an effort to fill many of the vacancies off the last round of applications. |
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Post by zebra51 on Nov 23, 2015 14:12:08 GMT -5
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Post by agent99 on Nov 23, 2015 15:32:08 GMT -5
Given the strong preference for attorneys with substantial immigration law or judicial experience, perhaps they should tailor the posting more toward what they want.
Good luck to all who applied! There are many great attorneys here who would be great IJ's
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Post by jafo on Nov 23, 2015 15:32:36 GMT -5
That's old news. If you look at a 11-3-15 posting by aljwatch, he just received an offer. Rumors are of a class in early 2016 followed by one later in the year. All of those positions will probably be filled by those who have had their second round interviews during 2015. |
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Post by robespierre on Nov 23, 2015 16:39:51 GMT -5
OK, wait ... I've checked old threads and as far as I can tell:
- an IJ job announcement went up on USAJobs in Aug or Sept 2014
- 18 judges were hired as a result and started in June 2015
- hiring based on the 2014 job announcement is still ongoing and it is rumored that up to 67 more judges have been hired/will be hired, to start in January and other 2016 dates
- the USAJobs announcement of Nov. 1, 2015 is a new round of hiring, for which candidates had to apply even if they applied to the previous job announcement. About 40 locations were posted, but that doesn't necessarily mean 40 positions.
Could someone who has been following this for a long time please confirm the above chronology, or correct the errors? I think it would be valuable for those who just entered the sweepstakes. Thanks.
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Post by jafo on Nov 23, 2015 16:55:02 GMT -5
Not sure about 67 judges but (many) more will be hired from the 2014 announcement. I'm unsure if all 40 locations have vacancies.
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Post by jessejames on Nov 23, 2015 18:43:17 GMT -5
This last IJ announcement was sent out for 55 cities. In any event, with all the news about immigration, one would think some new laws keeping IJ's even busier would be passed in the near future with bipartisan support.
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Post by wacokid on Nov 25, 2015 21:56:13 GMT -5
Curious things I noted different in this announcement: 3) With this batch Feds and Former Feds were required to submit most recent SF-50 and Eval. Those were not asked for in the last batch. I don't think the last sentence is correct. I submitted both with my 2014 applications, which I would not have done or even thought to do unless they were required. |
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Post by jafo on Dec 1, 2015 9:11:05 GMT -5
OK all you ICE attorneys - any rumors on the current hiring?
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Post by aljwatch on Dec 2, 2015 14:37:10 GMT -5
Still no start date for me, but I did hear that someone who received an offer at least a couple of months before I did was given a January start date. So, maybe I'll start by March?
I'm pretty sure that the group of new IJ's who started in June 2015 included both earlier hires whose start was delayed by the 2-year-long hiring freeze at DOJ and hires under the Aug 2014 ad.
I do think they will be trying to hire a fairly large number of new IJs under the Nov 2015 ads as well and will likely start interviewing early next year (doubt they will interview in December).
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Post by medsjet on Dec 3, 2015 19:39:29 GMT -5
OK all you ICE attorneys - any rumors on the current hiring? This is my first post. I have really appreciated learning from everyone for a few months now. I tested in October for ALJ. My friend just got robed for IJ. He submitted an application in 2012, was interviewed in 2013, then 2014 and then just started last month after making it through IJ school. He stated they are trying to hasten the process but I still think it takes 1 1/2 to 2 years to actually be hired. His extra long delay could have been tied to the budget freeze. You hear absolutely nothing from DOJ in the interim. My other good friend interviewed in September 2015 after applying November 2014. They told him that he would hear nothing for some months and that he should re-apply when the new openings appeared (last month) which he did. I applied for numerous positions and realize that it may be a year to a year and a half before I hear anything from DOJ. The ALJ process appears to be much more nebulous and arcane but hopefully of shorter duration. Good luck to everyone going to interviews. |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Dec 4, 2015 19:27:41 GMT -5
OK all you ICE attorneys - any rumors on the current hiring? This is my first post. I have really appreciated learning from everyone for a few months now. I tested in October for ALJ. My friend just got robed for IJ. He submitted an application in 2012, was interviewed in 2013, then 2014 and then just started last month after making it through IJ school. He stated they are trying to hasten the process but I still think it takes 1 1/2 to 2 years to actually be hired. His extra long delay could have been tied to the budget freeze. You hear absolutely nothing from DOJ in the interim. My other good friend interviewed in September 2015 after applying November 2014. They told him that he would hear nothing for some months and that he should re-apply when the new openings appeared (last month) which he did. I applied for numerous positions and realize that it may be a year to a year and a half before I hear anything from DOJ. The ALJ process appears to be much more nebulous and arcane but hopefully of shorter duration. Good luck to everyone going to interviews. Definitely NOT shorter in duration. LOL! It is a long process and there are many on this register who were on the last register and who are still trying. For me it was March 2013 app to June 2015 offer. And most in this process now applied when I did. |
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Post by ba on Dec 4, 2015 22:35:46 GMT -5
This is my first post. I have really appreciated learning from everyone for a few months now. I tested in October for ALJ. My friend just got robed for IJ. He submitted an application in 2012, was interviewed in 2013, then 2014 and then just started last month after making it through IJ school. He stated they are trying to hasten the process but I still think it takes 1 1/2 to 2 years to actually be hired. His extra long delay could have been tied to the budget freeze. You hear absolutely nothing from DOJ in the interim. My other good friend interviewed in September 2015 after applying November 2014. They told him that he would hear nothing for some months and that he should re-apply when the new openings appeared (last month) which he did. I applied for numerous positions and realize that it may be a year to a year and a half before I hear anything from DOJ. The ALJ process appears to be much more nebulous and arcane but hopefully of shorter duration. Good luck to everyone going to interviews. Definitely NOT shorter in duration. LOL! It is a long process and there are many on this register who were on the last register and who are still trying. For me it was March 2013 app to June 2015 offer. And most in this process now applied when I did. I have explained the process as a three-year long odyssey of hurry up and wait. And I too feel that I was hired relatively early in the process. When I explain the steps in that process (which brings back Gilligan's island-type memories) to those interested in how it works, their eyes begin to glaze over before I even get to the agency interview. As lengthy as that process is, unfortunately, no, this one is not faster. |
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Post by cafeta on Dec 5, 2015 1:17:13 GMT -5
I tested in early October (wd/lbmt/si) and when I tell "lay" people that I may hear my results as early as February, if things go quickly, they are always shocked! Then I remind them it's a federal government position and that seems to put them at ease. Not. No question it's a long process. I am a 2013 applicant as well and, if I get to continue, it will definitely be 2016, if not 2017. That said, watching the cert thread going on now, and it seems like it can go from 0 to 60 in a flash!
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Post by aljwatch on Dec 7, 2015 12:14:54 GMT -5
Saw this interesting article, which gives some of the numbers. The way I read this, a total of 23 IJs have been actually brought on board already and there are 25 more who have received offers, but the background investigations have not been completed. Then there are another 24 who are still under active consideration (presumably from the Aug 2014 ad) but the hiring process (i.e. second interviews and final decisions on selections?) has not been completed. It appears they intend to start the whole hiring process for the Nov 2015 ad independently of the final hiring decisions on the 2014 round. I'm still of the opinion that they will not start first-round interviews for the Nov 2015 ad until early 2016. www.courthousenews.com/2015/12/03/immigration-judges-cutting-through-backlog.htm |
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Post by jafo on Dec 7, 2015 14:19:13 GMT -5
Saw this interesting article, which gives some of the numbers. The way I read this, a total of 23 IJs have been actually brought on board already and there are 25 more who have received offers, but the background investigations have not been completed. Then there are another 24 who are still under active consideration (presumably from the Aug 2014 ad) but the hiring process (i.e. second interviews and final decisions on selections?) has not been completed. It appears they intend to start the whole hiring process for the Nov 2015 ad independently of the final hiring decisions on the 2014 round. I'm still of the opinion that they will not start first-round interviews for the Nov 2015 ad until early 2016. www.courthousenews.com/2015/12/03/immigration-judges-cutting-through-backlog.htmI feel a bit silly writing this as you are going forward and I'm not, but I read it a little differently. I think he is referring to "last November" as 2014 with the 23 hired being those that started earlier this year, the 24 are those in the possible January class (final stages of hiring) and the last 25 are those that recently got offers and still need their security/background checks. I'm presuming you're in the last group and won't be in the January 2016 class. I do question my own thought process knowing that only 18 started in June - not sure where the other 5 came from. Always a good sign when you realize you're arguing with yourself. I am aware of other very recent offers that have been extended pending successful completion of their investigations. Knowing that this can take several months, I think these individuals will be in the last 25 hired from the 2014 announcement and will take the bench "in the near future" (late spring/early summer?). Unfortunately for us that have applied for the November 2015 announcement, this amount of hiring will not be matched anytime soon. I await your valued opinion - I'm quite used to getting my logic and reasoning torn apart. LOL |
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Post by jafo on Dec 21, 2015 8:35:11 GMT -5
Do know of a couple of people that applied in 2014 that recently got offers. They're going through their background/security checks but have no idea on any kind of starting date. Any speculation/info out there?
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Post by batman1463 on Dec 21, 2015 11:21:17 GMT -5
Can you share in what state/region of the country the two received their offers?
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