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Post by ALJD on Feb 28, 2008 23:55:03 GMT -5
Good post, stickied. Thanks! :-)
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Post by privateattorney on Feb 29, 2008 0:24:40 GMT -5
Whew! There's still hope that an offer is somewhere in one of the western regions for those of us still waiting.   |
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Post by biker on Feb 29, 2008 0:44:51 GMT -5
I'm curious about the west (reg. 10) as well - I live in Spokane and have heard that there are possibly 2 openings here. I think one of the ALJ's here transferred to Seattle. I don't know how many openings there were in Seattle. By the way if anyone gets Spokane feel free to contact me; I've lived here for 25+ years. I'll even sell you my house. Maybe a car.
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Post by privateattorney on Feb 29, 2008 7:53:44 GMT -5
Propmaster, or should I say PM--you had a very busy night last night while sleeping! You get the award for the best graphics! I got a real hoot from the graphics you posted of the cartoon person at the computer keyboard! Thanks for humoring us all in this tense time! ;D
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Post by cricket on Feb 29, 2008 11:29:02 GMT -5
Jackson, MS has had an acceptance.
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Post by lawguardian on Feb 29, 2008 12:10:56 GMT -5
cricket, do you know if person going to Jackson, MS is an odar attorney?
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Post by cricket on Feb 29, 2008 13:42:08 GMT -5
Yes, AA from Rochester NY
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Post by camedlaw on Feb 29, 2008 18:13:27 GMT -5
Through local grapevine in Sacramento, offers have been extended for the two spots here - unfortunately I cannot offer a personal confirmation. I thought we were at most 3 hours behind the rest of the U.S., this is something akin to waiting for the Florida ballots to be counted! Aside from the mention of West LA, nobody yet can be dispatched to the congrats board for the Leftward part of the country???
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Post by bb on Feb 29, 2008 18:51:12 GMT -5
I am so curious about Washington State. Anyone hear what happened there?
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Post by biker on Feb 29, 2008 19:17:36 GMT -5
I am so curious about Washington State. Anyone hear what happened there? Jb: I'm in Spokane, I heard from a credible source that one of the Spokane ALJ's transferred to Seattle. That would leave possibly 2 openings here in Spokane and possibly take Seattle out of the picture. I haven't heard what, if anything, happened here but I'm trying to find out. I'm guessing Spokane may be left for a later cert. |
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Post by podar on Feb 29, 2008 19:36:05 GMT -5
JB and Biker,
I have heard, not certain as to reliability, that there will be a transfer into Spokane from San Bernadino. Not sure if that would be connected with or in any way affect the current hires. In addition, as you may know, the Spokane HOCALJ will soon be the Portland HOCALJ. I have no idea what the plan might be to fill the Spokane HOCALJ slot (from within or outside?), or how that would affect this cert or the next.
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Post by lostagain on Mar 1, 2008 8:15:13 GMT -5
Although I resisted it - I think 2 to 1 insider is significant. Maybe it has more to do with the register than the selection process, but there it is. It's a bit of both but, had the register been normal (i.e., not limited by number), there would have been a higher percentage of "outsiders" on the register and, thus, fewer insiders on the certificate. |
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Post by Propmaster on Mar 2, 2008 14:23:11 GMT -5
Sorry I was unable to update the summary for the last two days. I have updated (am updating) based on messages from the last 50 hours or so, but there has not been much change.
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Post by nonamouse on Mar 4, 2008 15:34:19 GMT -5
To answer an earlier query, Ft. Worth and Houston got transfers after the cert was issued. I believe they were 2 of the positions that were moved to the next cert (per the press release still stating 175 hires but only 144 this time).
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Post by odarite on Mar 5, 2008 11:26:39 GMT -5
Isn't it correct that the next cert cannot have any of the same cities that the original cert had since the hiring for that particular city must occur off the original cert from the candidates SSA received from OPM for that city? Seems to me that if I interview for Ft. Worth, and they don't fill it from the cert for whatever reason, they should not get a second bite at the apple. I don't think that is necessarily true. Suppose that on the list for City X from OPM were candidates A, B, and C. A was also on the list for City Y, was offered that city and accepted. B was also on the list for City Z and accepted that offer. C either accepted an offer to City W or was offered City X and declined. City X can certainly be on the next certificate. There would be other scenarios that would work here, too. Especially if it is true that they are not making second offers where there were declinations. |
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Post by nonamouse on Mar 5, 2008 14:50:45 GMT -5
Isn't it correct that the next cert cannot have any of the same cities that the original cert had since the hiring for that particular city must occur off the original cert from the candidates SSA received from OPM for that city? Seems to me that if I interview for Ft. Worth, and they don't fill it from the cert for whatever reason, they should not get a second bite at the apple. An additional possibility is that City A had a slot and filled it from the last cert. They have a retirement now and they post it for the next cert. This does not do anything untoward to the people from the last time because the agency must adhere to the rule of 3 and consider the highest 3 people for the new opening at the time of the new cert. There is also the rare case of someone starting as an ALJ in a particular city and then several months later deciding that they hate either the job or city so much that they would rather go back to their old life. Hence another "new" opening after the position was filled from the old cert. |
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Post by July on Mar 5, 2008 22:00:23 GMT -5
Propmaster: Please continue to update this string especially with regard to the pending offers not yet accepted. I wrote Pat Rocheford today inquiring about the relocation packages and she said a list of those hired would be forwarded to the component handling this once all offers had been declined or accepted. If you are a current Federal employee like me, you can take an authorized house hunting trip once you have received the relocation package. My spouse and I are anxious to get going! Thanks for all your hard work.
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Post by aaa on Mar 6, 2008 11:54:29 GMT -5
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Post by Propmaster on Mar 6, 2008 18:53:03 GMT -5
It's actually a tiny bit more depressing to know that my site selections/options were 34/138 (25%) (it looks like PR got 6 of the 144, I thought they were a different cert), rather than 14/71 (20%). I guess on the other hand, it means they really had 36 people for whom there were not even any positions open on the interview list. I guess no one else will be going to Cleveland for a while! It's pretty amazing how short-handed some of these offices must have been. |
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Post by jagghagg on Mar 8, 2008 10:53:17 GMT -5
Isn't it correct that the next cert cannot have any of the same cities that the original cert had since the hiring for that particular city must occur off the original cert from the candidates SSA received from OPM for that city? Seems to me that if I interview for Ft. Worth, and they don't fill it from the cert for whatever reason, they should not get a second bite at the apple. Nope. Not correct. In truth, although it rarely happens, an agency can return a compete cert with the indication that no one is acceptable. Probably NOT gonna happen on an ALJ cert..... Bottom line is that each Certificate from the Register has an identification number and is a response to a specific request from the Agency (in this case, the SSA....note that HUD got TWO certs for their fills.....DOL took one.) When SSA determines to do more fills, without regard to whether there are repeat cities on their scope of not, they will ask for a Cert from the OPM Register for three times the number of slots they are going to fill, for candidates with X geographic availability. Hopefully, PF - Region One will be there for you. What happened in Seattle ? I've been told that an Vet Preference insider who is currently in the SSA OGC office IN Seattle was the selectee. 'hagg |
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